Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Cash gk]

Highly unlikely

Well, their survival is difficult then they’re going to put us in trouble as well because if they fell , we will fell

 

[Bengal71]

It's more complicated than that.
The regime is incompetent. It is compromised at the highest level. There's too much competition within the system due to corruption and foreign ties.

Iran has the uranium now. We have the designs, and we know these designs work. We have the delivery systems. The only thing that is preventing us from becoming nuclear is what I said: the regime is compromised at the highest level.

I don't think Kamenei is compromised. But you do get plenty of morons among the ulama, whether Shia and Sunni. He just made a moronic decision not to build it.

 

[Cash gk]

I don't think Kamenei is compromised. Buy you do get plenty of morons among the ulama, whether Shia and Sunni. He just made a moronic decision not to build it.

Have you seen Pakistaní mullas…. They are mostly on payroll.

 

[ShapurII]

The war is not over. Israel and the United States are simply rushing to replenish their missiles.
To begin with, there is a deadline for the snapback clause to be triggered in August.
Their surprise attack in June was to catch Iran off guard and to ensure that if the snapback is activated, Iran would have no choice but to fight, fearing that Iran’s fierce resistance could lead to a quagmire.
Iran’s uranium enrichment capability was nearly wiped out once, but that won’t stop the EU from triggering the snapback.
Between August and October, Iran will face a full-scale invasion once again, this time by the coalition forces of the U.S., U.K., Germany, France, and Israel.

Iran's enrichment capacity is mostly intact, as well as 440 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium.

We have lost some important components of our nuclear program, but nothing that cannot be rebuilt in a few months, if there's the will to rebuild them. We have lost our deuterium production, our green salt and yellow cake production, uranium metal conversion, and centrifuge assembly lines, and possibly a few other components that I can't think of now but the main components are intact. Even most of our centrifuge assembly has been underground for years, since the last time Israel tried to sabotage a few years ago.

I believe this truce is temporary for sure. There will be much more pressure on Iran through the snapback mechanism before September and they will attack Iran again eventually. But I don't think that they can fully replenish their anti-ballistic defense and I don't think it will be a full-scale invasion.

 

[Bengal71]

Iran Parliament pass a law to suspend any cooperation with International Nuclear Agency , the law should be verified by Guardia. Council and National Supreme Security Council before getting finalized.

This is a very good news, they were always there to spy on Iran's nuclear program. Next milestone to achieve would be to withdraw from the NPT.

My opinion? Build the bomb, withdraw from NPT as soon as you are ready to detonate. Don't withdraw from NPT before the bomb is ready.

 

[Fatman17]

Israel -
Claims victory, for 12 days had been ruling enemy Iranian skies, bombing whatever they felt like, bases, aircrafts, missile launchers, radars, SAMs, nuclear facilities, infrastructure, they assassinated top iranian generals and scientists, Israel also had 100s of agents on the ground in iran, destroying AD system from the ground, using drones from the ground. Today Israel has no fear they will continue to bomb iran when they feel like it, slowly degrading their military capabilities. Iran lost its nuclear facilities, which cost them billions. For 18 hours Iranians were confused on what was happening.

Iran -
Iran managed to fire atleast 500 missiles at Israel, before the war iran claimed they have 100,000 missiles aimed at Israel but for failed to fire them at Israel, Iran destroyed Israel infrastructures and bases. For 12 days managed to get through to Israel and hitting them hard, this created alot of chaos inside israel. No doubt Iran fought bravely, were ready to fight till end.

Iran to do list-
They MUST identify all agents and traitors inside iran and finish them off, their intelligence agency head needs to be fired and new professional people hired. This cannot be repeated.

Iran must ban the use of pagers, western phones, apps, watches to its military personals. Iran must understand that Israelis had the upper hand, they can continue to bomb iran for 1 year and iran couldn't do much, all because Israelis ruled their airspace. Iran needs anti jamming equipment, AD systems, SAM systems, they must make sure Israel will never be able to dominate iranian skies again.

During this war, Iranian strategic partner Russia was quieter than usual and their close partner India refused to condemn Israel or attend SCO meetings on behalf of iran. Iran must remember who supported them from the beginning till the end.

Regarding military weapons. A lot of people are saying Iran must buy j10c, su35s or Jf17s, this is not possible as the west, Israel and Arab GCC will not allow anyone to sell weapons to Iran, It will not work. unless Iran leaves middle east alone, does not challenge mighty Saudis and Israel in the region, this then may reduce alot of pressure on foreign suppliers and just maybe iran will be able to buy 100 jf17 block 3s to upgrade its airforce. Iran must also invest in SLBM, SLCMs, they need 2nd strike capabilities.

My own opinion - Iran will continue the same path, International sanctions are so serious that no nation will sell cutting edge weaponry to iran, iran will continue giving anti usa and Israel slogans, keeping the domestic audience happy. With officials using this level of non diplomatic language, the situation will be the same. Keep in mind Iran claimed they had 100,000 missiles but only fired 500, they had so many different types of AD systems but majority failed and destroyed, Missiles launchers and bases destroyed

One way out is for Iranian Patriotic/nationalists to rise up, reset relations with everyone, concentrate on Iran, development, military, economy, concentrate on China Russia Pakistan Turkey ASEAN Africa Brazil South African Central Asia Europe, and improve relations with Qatar Egypt. Leave middleeast alone. Then Iran can improve airforce and military, intergrate with China/Pakistan, they will get satellite cover and cutting edge Awaacs, Jamming etc.

No offence to iranian membere but someone has to pay for this incompetence. The regime clearly failed, maybe its better for Ayatollahs to take the back seat and let the military handle military strategies, planning tactics etc

How long it will take to make 100 JF-17 Thunder block III?
Pakistan can produce 24 / year going full bore and has to supply PAF and Azerbaijan.
These would have to come from China.

 

[Bengal71]

Have you seen Pakistaní mullas…. They are mostly on payroll.

Brother, mullah moronism are a result of an assortment of things. Selling out is one reason among them, many a times mullahs have different view and access to different sets of information, it can also depend on their knowledge of geopolitics and security matters, can depend on their overall intelligence, based on which they issue fatawa.

 

[Fatman17]

No, I'm pointing out that's not how Americans see it. Because they've been carefully groomed to believe Muslims in general are savages while forgetting that it is a very very small minority committing this savagery.

People get steeped in their beliefs because that is all they know due to being told that over and over and over again.

Cry wolf syndrome

 

[Fatman17]

Well, their survival is difficult then they’re going to put us in trouble as well because if they fell , we will fell

No we won't as long as we mind our own business and not become "thaneydar" of the Muslim world. Let someone else do that.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Several thread merged

 

[ShapurII]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Nobel peace prize was a 4D chess move....

No you just need to be a war criminal or mass murderer or talk about change at election time and then attack and bomb more country after election.
Its all it get to win a Noble peace prize

 

[SolarWarden]

Great video by Cappy.

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[Arash]

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Of course Europe is going to pay that's the only thing they can do

 

[ShapurII]

Great video by Cappy.

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Bullshit from the very first minute he starts his so-called analysis.
There were only 6 GBU57-s launched. 3 B-2s flew over Iran, each carrying 2 GBU-57s. And that fully explains the 6 holes we see in the satellite imagery. Anything else is fantasy.