Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Bengal71]

Iran Parliament pass a law to suspend any cooperation with International Nuclear Agency , the law should be verified by Guardia. Council and National Supreme Security Council before getting finalized.

This is a very good news, they were always there to spy on Iran's nuclear program. Next milestone to achieve would be to withdraw from the NPT.

My opinion? Build the bomb, withdraw from NPT as soon as you are ready to detonate. Don't withdraw from NPT before the bomb is ready.

 

[Fatman17]

Israel -
Claims victory, for 12 days had been ruling enemy Iranian skies, bombing whatever they felt like, bases, aircrafts, missile launchers, radars, SAMs, nuclear facilities, infrastructure, they assassinated top iranian generals and scientists, Israel also had 100s of agents on the ground in iran, destroying AD system from the ground, using drones from the ground. Today Israel has no fear they will continue to bomb iran when they feel like it, slowly degrading their military capabilities. Iran lost its nuclear facilities, which cost them billions. For 18 hours Iranians were confused on what was happening.

Iran -
Iran managed to fire atleast 500 missiles at Israel, before the war iran claimed they have 100,000 missiles aimed at Israel but for failed to fire them at Israel, Iran destroyed Israel infrastructures and bases. For 12 days managed to get through to Israel and hitting them hard, this created alot of chaos inside israel. No doubt Iran fought bravely, were ready to fight till end.

Iran to do list-
They MUST identify all agents and traitors inside iran and finish them off, their intelligence agency head needs to be fired and new professional people hired. This cannot be repeated.

Iran must ban the use of pagers, western phones, apps, watches to its military personals. Iran must understand that Israelis had the upper hand, they can continue to bomb iran for 1 year and iran couldn't do much, all because Israelis ruled their airspace. Iran needs anti jamming equipment, AD systems, SAM systems, they must make sure Israel will never be able to dominate iranian skies again.

During this war, Iranian strategic partner Russia was quieter than usual and their close partner India refused to condemn Israel or attend SCO meetings on behalf of iran. Iran must remember who supported them from the beginning till the end.

Regarding military weapons. A lot of people are saying Iran must buy j10c, su35s or Jf17s, this is not possible as the west, Israel and Arab GCC will not allow anyone to sell weapons to Iran, It will not work. unless Iran leaves middle east alone, does not challenge mighty Saudis and Israel in the region, this then may reduce alot of pressure on foreign suppliers and just maybe iran will be able to buy 100 jf17 block 3s to upgrade its airforce. Iran must also invest in SLBM, SLCMs, they need 2nd strike capabilities.

My own opinion - Iran will continue the same path, International sanctions are so serious that no nation will sell cutting edge weaponry to iran, iran will continue giving anti usa and Israel slogans, keeping the domestic audience happy. With officials using this level of non diplomatic language, the situation will be the same. Keep in mind Iran claimed they had 100,000 missiles but only fired 500, they had so many different types of AD systems but majority failed and destroyed, Missiles launchers and bases destroyed

One way out is for Iranian Patriotic/nationalists to rise up, reset relations with everyone, concentrate on Iran, development, military, economy, concentrate on China Russia Pakistan Turkey ASEAN Africa Brazil South African Central Asia Europe, and improve relations with Qatar Egypt. Leave middleeast alone. Then Iran can improve airforce and military, intergrate with China/Pakistan, they will get satellite cover and cutting edge Awaacs, Jamming etc.

No offence to iranian membere but someone has to pay for this incompetence. The regime clearly failed, maybe its better for Ayatollahs to take the back seat and let the military handle military strategies, planning tactics etc

How long it will take to make 100 JF-17 Thunder block III?
Pakistan can produce 24 / year going full bore and has to supply PAF and Azerbaijan.
These would have to come from China.

 

[Bengal71]

Have you seen Pakistaní mullas…. They are mostly on payroll.

Brother, mullah moronism are a result of an assortment of things. Selling out is one reason among them, many a times mullahs have different view and access to different sets of information, it can also depend on their knowledge of geopolitics and security matters, can depend on their overall intelligence, based on which they issue fatawa.

 

[Fatman17]

No, I'm pointing out that's not how Americans see it. Because they've been carefully groomed to believe Muslims in general are savages while forgetting that it is a very very small minority committing this savagery.

People get steeped in their beliefs because that is all they know due to being told that over and over and over again.

Cry wolf syndrome

 

[Fatman17]

Well, their survival is difficult then they’re going to put us in trouble as well because if they fell , we will fell

No we won't as long as we mind our own business and not become "thaneydar" of the Muslim world. Let someone else do that.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Several thread merged

 

[ShapurII]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Nobel peace prize was a 4D chess move....

No you just need to be a war criminal or mass murderer or talk about change at election time and then attack and bomb more country after election.
Its all it get to win a Noble peace prize

 

[SolarWarden]

Great video by Cappy.

 

[Arash]

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Of course Europe is going to pay that's the only thing they can do

 

[ShapurII]

Great video by Cappy.

Bullshit from the very first minute he starts his so-called analysis.
There were only 6 GBU57-s launched. 3 B-2s flew over Iran, each carrying 2 GBU-57s. And that fully explains the 6 holes we see in the satellite imagery. Anything else is fantasy.

 

[Bengal71]

@Persian Gulf @RescueRanger

An OSINT observer managed to map out Israeli ADs and interceptor types purely based on available cam footage.



made a mistake on cost estimates though

82 total interceptor is extremely unlikely, it should be at least in several hunders.

I ran fired around 400-500 BMs, if 25% got through 300-375 BMs were intercepted which requires at least 300-375 interceptor. But they may have used 2 or more interceptors for each BMs. So the number is likely far higher.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Honestly, after witnessing this conflict, I’ve slightly revised my opinion of Zelensky, whom I used to dislike.
Despite losing vast territories in just a few days, facing an onslaught on his capital, and enduring intense airstrikes, he chose to fight relentlessly, mobilized his forces, and launched a counterattack without retreating a single step.
If Zelensky had been as cowardly as the Ayatollahs, he would have surrendered immediately, and Ukraine would have been occupied by Russia almost without a fight. And he would have justified it as a rational choice.

In the end, more than equipment or national strength, it's the leader’s will to fight that matters most. When the leader is gripped by fear and on the verge of surrendering, no soldier wants to die in a futile battle.

I say give it another thought!
Joker is running the state on the strength and dime of the collective with Ukrainian muscle which is either racially motivated or captured from the streets and thrown into meat grinders. All this while a good chunk of population has simply left.

Second, Putin is not waging that war as a terrorist but as some kind of a novel law enforcement/police action called special military operation. He didn't aim regime change, didn't start as a decapitation strike. Took over the largest nuclear reactor, safeguards and its protection. And, After multiple provocations hasn't threatened the life of joker or nuking him.

Turn the page...
The aggressor, another rogue terrorist entity on the dime and support of the collective unleashed with a decapitation strike. In days Khamenei was threatened with his life, granting him that as an act of limited charity, telling 10 million residents of Tehran to evacuate, taking out nuclear sites knowing full well that it can cause an environmental catastrophe and make life impossible for an eternity around them... Iran did not return the favor in kind! Did not target nuclear facilities in zion or the whole economic lifeline, the silicon valley investments! The fab, big data and software development centers... the bread and butter of zion that fund and run the whole operation.

Not an honorable or principled foe... but a rogue terror enterprise that has again returned to the dungeon to return with acts even vile, vicious and evil than before.

 

[Persian Gulf]

How unstable do you think the ground is in Frodo? Or do you believe that despite all the seismic shock from the MOPs it is fine to re-enter?

not sure about Frodo, you should ask Bilbo Baggins

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran executes 3 Mossad spies