Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Arash]

Iran warns Ukraine of ‘consequences’ over recent comments​

Iran warns Ukraine of ‘consequences’ over recent comments

Iran’s Foreign Ministry has delivered a note of protest over Kiev’s support for US and Israeli military actions

www.rt.com

Qarn them with what ? That we'll not hire more ukrainian prostitutes ?

 

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[StrategicBear]

If Iran used 5% of its capabilities, then it should be entertaining. I am afraid a lot of propaganda and not real action They missed the memo on June, 13th. Let’s hope Iran is ready .

If they attack just anytime and anywhere like in Lebanon I want Iran to destroy Dimona and simply wipe out those nasty demons out from existence. Those warmongering Satanists must not be allowed to bomb another Muslim country at will.

 

[StrategicBear]

I didn’t see any Iranian strikes hitting Israeli military infrastructure—everything targeted seemed to be civilian areas. These may serve propaganda purposes, but they do nothing to degrade the fighting capability of the Israeli military.
U.S. strikes on Iran were also a failure. Trump’s claim that Iran has been completely denuclearized is nothing more than a bluff.

That's why Iran needs to use EMP warheads to at least disable and fry the electronics used in their F-35s and F-16s. Take out their Air Force and you take out 90% of their military capability against Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

maybe IRGC will send 25 missiles instead of 15 if that happens

jokes aside, that would probably be a good thing as it might be the only thing to convince these old fools that they live in a jungle and the UNSC isn't about to come save the mullahs from Israel, only nuclear weapons can protect them

I don't know. The IR is hard to read. We don't even know if Khamenei is the main issue here. The system seems completely compromised.
What if the successor of Khamenei is Hasan Rohani? Would you still want him to be assassinated?

But one thing is for certain. All these bunker buster bombs are for targeting Khamenei. And the IR seems passive as usual.

 

[ShapurII]

This is why you need OTH radars, or even better, AEW&C.
I told you we were prone to cruise missile attacks.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

That's why Iran needs to use EMP warheads to at least disable and fry the electronics used in their F-35s and F-16s. Take out their Air Force and you take out 90% of their military capability against Iran.

I don’t want to see a war between Israel and Iran. What Iran really needs is a strong conventional military instead of relying on nuclear weapons. A country with a strong military doesn’t need nukes, but a country without one won’t even be able to protect its nuclear weapons if conflict breaks out.

 

[BonPlan]

Congratulations to the Iranian people on a heroic and brave defense!

I know things are still tenuous but seeing images of Israel burn brought joy to many of us.

The Mollahs just have to thank Trump.

 

[ShapurII]

Another example of the incompetence of the Ayatollah regime:

They are deporting Afghan refugees in large numbers everyday, but they are not fingerprinting them or storing their biometric information, as far as reports suggest. This is useless, they will be back again and next time, they will be even more of a threat to Iran because they now have motivation to hurt Iran, even more than before.

 

[muz]

That's why Iran needs to use EMP warheads to at least disable and fry the electronics used in their F-35s and F-16s. Take out their Air Force and you take out 90% of their military capability against Iran.

EMP warheads that can disable those type of systems only a select few countries have and Iran is not one of them

 

[FUB]

Another example of the incompetence of the Ayatollah regime:

They are deporting Afghan refugees in large numbers everyday, but they are not fingerprinting them or storing their biometric information, as far as reports suggest. This is useless, they will be back again and next time, they will be even more of a threat to Iran because they now have motivation to hurt Iran, even more than before.

How do you know that they are not collecting data? I heard that there is a massive border under construction.

 

[Arash]

Another example of the incompetence of the Ayatollah regime:

They are deporting Afghan refugees in large numbers everyday, but they are not fingerprinting them or storing their biometric information, as far as reports suggest. This is useless, they will be back again and next time, they will be even more of a threat to Iran because they now have motivation to hurt Iran, even more than before.

Not needed if you really close the border........

 

[mangekyo]

Israel lost the 12 Day War with Iran because it failed to achieve its objectives:

1) Israel FAILED to destroy the Iranian nuclear program - Iran still has 408kg of HEU and IR-6 centrifuges and the nuclear program itself was not destroyed but rather rolled back by only 2 to 6 months.

2) Israel FAILED to remove the threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons - since key components of the nuclear program are intact the threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons is NOT removed. Moreover, after this war Iran reduced relations with the IAEA and might accelerate its nuclear program.

3) Israel FAILED to degrade Iranian ballistic missiles program - contrary to Western propaganda, Iran succeeded in launching 550 missiles at Israel with hundreds of impacts. And Iranian underground missile bases and underground missile production facilities survived. During the war we saw ineffectiveness of David's Sling, Arrow-3, THAAD, PAC-3 and SM-3 with only 3-4 videos of these systems successfully intercepting Iranian missiles.

4) Israel FAILED to degrade the ability of Iranian military to retaliate against Israel - while Israel killed several key generals, they have been quickly replaced and Iran started its retaliation.

5) Israel FAILED to create internal crisis within the Iranian regime - Israel killed several key Iranian generals who were pillars of the system, but these generals were replaced by other loyal generals and Iranian system showed strong resilience. Moreover, this war united Iranian people with the Islamic government and discredited pro-Western opposition as enemy collaborators.

We can conclude that despite some tactical successes, Israel failed to achieve its objectives and ISRAEL LOST THE WAR.

You’re saying Israel lost, but even you admit they set Iran’s nuclear program back by months in less than two weeks. That’s not nothing. They also killed key figures, destabilized the leadership, got practical air superiority, and hit our ability to hit back. They wanted to do real damage, and they knew Iran would retaliate, they just maybe didn’t expect to burn through interceptors so fast or get hit as hard as they did. Hard to know exactly, since Israeli media doesn’t share much about losses.

Calling it the “12-day war” is the real trick.
Makes it sound over. It’s not, it’s just a pause.
Now they get time to resupply, learn, and get fully ready for round two. And in round two, they still have air superiority, they still know where our launchers are and the firing patterns, and they can probably destroy them even faster than before because they’ve already mapped everything out.

IRI being busy patting itself on the back, talking about a new nuclear deal and complaining to the UN like it’s all settled is exactly what Israel wants.

 

[StrategicBear]

The only game-changer now is if China starts a new war against India over the border, tying India up so Pakistan can send some planes to enforce at least a No-Fly Zone over Western Iran and then "accidentally shoot down IDF planes" with PL-15 missiles if near.

But this will be a WW3 Scenario with no turning back.