Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

Fordow is gone, and Iran nuclear capabilities are as Trump like to say are "OBLIRIATED", that why they don't talk about leaving NPT. I would hope that this would be smart play by IR, but as far as I know them, they are not unified and smart enough to play this kind of scenario.

So, if we don't have capabilities to continue enrich uranium and even don't dare to make bomb, then what all of these were for!? Just like 5 years old boy who try to show defiance ....

 

[vmro]

That's not going to happen just because you say it will. Action needs to be taken to bring that about. Real, tangible public pressure to change treasonous policies is necessary. Your fantastical thinking about non-existent super weapons breeds complacency. For Iran to rise again, serious and widespread change is needed.

Changing is going on, it was hardly imaginable that Iran would be able to destroy buildings in the Tel Aviv's downtown with terrifying powerful missiles, in packet with the inhabitants of the buildings, and reject Omnipotent IDF/mossad assault planned to the smallest detail... if they go on with attacks, in revenge they will be Gaza face-look...

Don't underestimate Persia, you can lose your war even after you win all battles...Alexander's conquest??? He was hated by his soldiers for being more like a Persian admirer than an overlord... Islamization of Iran became Iranization of Islam... Mongolian attacks were the real survival challenge, but they survived...

Zionists are traumatized by the idea of being vulnerable and targets in their holy-mole entity, but they are, and they can do nothing except brutal MSM propaganda for "defeated" Iran...

This war changed everything and Iran is no longer a nuclear power, in their analysis...I mean, wow, Iran is no longer a nuclear threat, they can destroy entire blocks in 400 seconds with speedy missiles and decimate us, but who cares, Trump bombed some bunkers and that's all that matters...

Yes, Iran is probably still not a nuclear power... But this war did change nothing to defeat Iran, just made them angrier and more willing to be far more brutal in the eventual next round...

Iran took some punches on its chin also, no questions about it... But from insiders in 90% of the cases...

They are a minority and Iranian people proved it during the conflict...the real battle is inside Iran, and that is the main thing to be realized... traitors and defining the concept of national doctrine in the future are only 2 important issues for Iran now...

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Changing is going on, it was hardly imaginable that Iran would be able to destroy buildings in the Tel Aviv's downtown with terrifying powerful missiles, in packet with the inhabitants of the buildings, and reject Omnipotent IDF/mossad assault planned to the smallest detail... if they go on with attacks, in revenge they will be Gaza face-look...

Don't underestimate Persia, you can lose your war even after you win all battles...Alexander's conquest??? He was hated by his soldiers for being more like a Persian admirer than an overlord... Islamization of Iran became Iranization of Islam... Mongolian attacks were the real survival challenge, but they survived...

Zionists are traumatized by the idea of being vulnerable and targets in their holy-mole entity, but they are, and they can do nothing except brutal MSM propaganda for "defeated" Iran...

This war changed everything and Iran is no longer a nuclear power, in their analysis...I mean, wow, Iran is no longer a nuclear threat, they can destroy entire blocks in 400 seconds with speedy missiles and decimate us, but who cares, Trump bombed some bunkers and that's all that matters...

Yes, Iran is probably still not a nuclear power... But this war did change nothing to defeat Iran, just made them angrier and more willing to be far more brutal in the eventual next round...

Iran took some punches on its chin also, no questions about it... But from insiders in 90% of the cases...

They are a minority and Iranian people proved it during the conflict...the real battle is inside Iran, and that is the main thing to be realized... traitors and defining the concept of national doctrine in the future are only 2 important issues for Iran now...

Take a look around X and see how much love people are throwing at [our Azari president] Pezeshkian

 

[FUB]

نه اتفاقاً. من اصلاً‌ از اینها نیستم که بگم چون اونها ندارن پس ما هم نمی‌تونیم داشته باشیم. به نظرم هم ایران نهایتاً در بدترین ۷۰-۸۰ سال از علم روز عقب افتاده باشه اما تو بیشتر زمینه‌ها ۳۰-۵۰ سال درست‌تره

بحث فیزیک هست صرفاً. اگه از نظر فیزیکی با اعداد جور در نیاد پس به احتمال خیلی زیاد نداریم

ساده‌ترین راهکار برای بازدارندگی ایران بمب هسته‌ای هست. چیزی که همه دنیا پذیرفتن و ۸۰ سال​

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[FUB]

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[ShapurII]

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Something is fishy here....the building to the right was partly destroyed, but the buildings to the left and to the top seems to be intact....I have no clue, can a ballistic missile really cause such a weird damage?
I guess IF the randome was really destroyed, than not by a ballistic missile....probably by drone(s)

This is exactly what I think too, but one possible explanation is that those two other buildings in the left and the north of the radome have been damaged too but because their roofs are intact, they do not appear damaged in the image.

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I don't get how that's relevant to what I said.

 

[FUB]

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[FUB]

This is exactly what I think too, but one possible explanation is that those two other buildings in the left and the north of the radome have been damaged too but because their roofs are intact, they do not appear damaged in the image.


I don't get how that's relevant to what I said.

Is Iran really 70-80 years behind ?

 

[ShapurII]

Is Iran really 70-80 years behind ?

Can Iran manufacture a strategic bomber, for example? Or a liquid-fueled ICBM? When do you think Iran's first manned space mission will be? When will our first geostationary satellite be inserted into the orbit? Or our first hydrogen bomb?

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[FUB]

Can Iran manufacture a strategic bomber, for example? Or a liquid-fueled ICBM? When do you think Iran's first manned space mission will be? When will our first geostationary satellite be inserted into the orbit? Or our first hydrogen bomb?

How many countries globally have achieved that?

Here are the top ten most important sectors for any country. ChatGPT provides the comparison.

#	Strategic Sector	Iran	Turkey	Israel
1	Advanced Education & STEM R&D	Large # of STEM grads, weak funding	Strong base, weak innovation output	World-class universities & R&D
2	High-Tech Manufacturing	Limited to defense & oil equipment	Automotive, defense, textiles	Semiconductors, defense tech
3	Energy Independence	Oil, gas, nuclear, solar potential	Some gas, reliant on imports	Dependent on energy imports
4	Digital Infrastructure & Cyber	Restricted, censorship, poor speed	Expanding 5G & broadband	Global cyber power, top in AI
5	Transport & Logistics	Aging infrastructure, sanctions	Good roads, ports, airlines	Small size, regional only
6	Healthcare & Biotech	Domestic pharma, limited biotech	Universal healthcare, generic pharma	Global biotech & vaccine leader
7	Food Security & AgriTech	Water shortages, sanctions impact	Large agriculture sector	Imports most food, tech-focused
8	Defense & Aerospace	Ballistic missiles, drones, local	Strong NATO-style military industry	Elite air force, Iron Dome, AI war
9	Financial Systems & Capital	Sanctions cripple banking & forex	Inflation, fragile currency	Vibrant capital markets, VC hub
10	Cultural Exports & Soft Power	Historic legacy, modern isolation	Turkish TV, tourism, cuisine	Start-up nation image, high culture

eature / Capability	Iran	Turkey	Israel

Chip Design (Fabless)

Limited – mostly defense R&D

Emerging – small start-ups

Strong – Intel, Nvidia, Mobileye

Chip Manufacturing (Fabs)

No advanced fabs – basic microchips

No advanced fabs – just testing

Intel’s largest R&D & fab center

Access to Global Supply

Sanctioned, isolated

Mid-level access, reliant on EU/Asia

Fully integrated with global supply

Talent Pipeline

Strong engineering base

Growing STEM education base

Elite design & engineering talent

Foreign Investment

None – blocked by sanctions

Modest investment in electronics

Major investments from Intel, ARM

AI & Quantum Chips

Experimental at best

Not active

Early work in AI chips, quantum R&D

 

[vmro]

Take a look around X and see how much love people are throwing at [our Azari president] Pezeshkian

Probably most of the comments are negative mocking satire or pure swearing, but if I say that you got the point... then USA is a hopeless case...

 

[gambit]

Yes, Iran is probably still not a nuclear power... But this war did change nothing to defeat Iran, just made them angrier and more willing to be far more brutal in the eventual next round...

Here is the uncomfortable reality...As an Air Force guy, F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm), if the enemy has control of your airspace, you ARE defeated. This is modern warfare, not 19th century and older. Israel is limited/restrained by US, nothing else. But geopolitics aside, militarily speaking Iran is effectively defeated.

 

[FUB]

Here is the uncomfortable reality...As an Air Force guy, F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm), if the enemy has control of your airspace, you ARE defeated. This is modern warfare, not 19th century and older. Israel is limited/restrained by US, nothing else. But geopolitics aside, militarily speaking Iran is effectively defeated.

There is no evidence that Israel had control over Iranian airspace. The majority of the strikes were conducted from inside Iran. Most of the missiles fired by Israel were in Iraqi airspace. Tell me, Rambo, did the US win any wars in the last 5 decades with Air superiority? Last I checked, Iraq was invaded. Afghanistan was invaded. Both ended in defeat.
Did Israel have control over its skies?

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[gambit]

There is no evidence that Israel had control over Iranian airspace. The majority of the strikes were conducted from inside Iran. Most of the missiles fired by Israel were in Iraqi airspace. Tell me, Rambo, did the US win any wars in the last 5 decades with Air superiority? Last I checked, Iraq was invaded. Afghanistan was invaded. Both ended in defeat.
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I have no problems with YOU believing that the US was 'defeated' in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not one bit. In fact, I want all muslim militaries to believe like you do.