Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PK781]

So what's the plan for Round 2 ?? What are the experts in Iranian defense saying or aiming for?
I do think there will be round 2 soon, as soon as washington gives the go ahead...

 

[LX1111]

Iran never accepts Yuan payment. So, Iran never has any Yuan anyway. Why asked Iran for something it doesn't have?

I think you guys are doing too much rationalization.

China is the largest importer of Iranian oil, Iran should have a lot of RMB

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Non-nuclear EMPs are short-range acting. Usually a few hundred meters, maybe a few kilometers at the best case. They are useless for disabling an enemy's defensive/offensive capabilities in the sense you are talking about.

Nuclear EMPs are the ones you want to produce, not non-nuclear EMPs.

A high-altitude nuclear explosion could turn the zionist entity into a parking lot.
However, from what I’ve heard, Iran — the fourth brainiest country in the world — has developed advanced, non-nuclear weapons specifically designed to shut down a country’s electricity infrastructure for years.
These systems are 100% Iranian-made, unique, and intended to neutralize a country without causing mass civilian casualties

 

[ShapurII]

A high-altitude nuclear explosion could turn the zionist entity into a parking lot.
However, from what I’ve heard, Iran — the fourth brainiest country in the world — has developed advanced, non-nuclear weapons specifically designed to shut down a country’s electricity infrastructure for years.
These systems are 100% Iranian-made, unique, and intended to neutralize a country without causing mass civilian casualties

Yes, it can. Not only it can send the Zionist entity back to the 16th century, but it can even send Europe or the US back to the 16th century if it's exploded in a high-altitude like 500km above the earth over the right region, but it has to be a nuclear-EMP!

As I said, the range of a non-nuclear EMP device is quite small for such an effect, less than 10 km at best, but usually less than 1km. So, if it explodes in high-altitude, it won't be effective as the altitude you are talking about is usually above 50km above the earth. Only nuclear EMPs can do what you are describing and for that, we need nuclear weapons.

The US has tactical EMPs that can disable all electronics in just one building or neighborhood, or even a small city block. That's what non-nuclear EMPs are good for. What you are describing requires a much larger energy achievable by nukes only.

You have to understand that the intensity of the EM pulse drops with distance, following an inverse-square law. So, if you want to increase the range twice, you have to increase your energy 4 times. If you want to increase the range by a factor of 10, you have to increase your energy by a factor of 100, so on so forth.

 

[PK781]

why are you guys discussing things you (iran) do not have, such as N-EMPs ??
Best to prepare with what you actually can, as round 2 may not be so far now.
I guess it is the missiles and drones....

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Yes, it can. Not only it can send the Zionist entity back to the 16th century, but it can even send Europe or the US back to the 16th century if it's exploded in a high-altitude like 500km above the earth over the right region, but it has to be a nuclear-EMP!

As I said, the range of a non-nuclear EMP device is quite small for such an effect, less than 10 km at best, but usually less than 1km. So, if it explodes in high-altitude, it won't be effective as the altitude you are talking about is usually above 50km above the earth. Only nuclear EMPs can do what you are describing and for that, we need nuclear weapons.

The US has tactical EMPs that can disable all electronics in just one building or neighborhood, or even a small city block. That's what non-nuclear EMPs are good for. What you are describing requires a much larger energy achievable by nukes only.

You have to understand that the intensity of the EM pulse drops with distance, following an inverse-square law. So, if you want to increase the range twice, you have to increase your energy 4 times. If you want to increase the range by a factor of 10, you have to increase your energy by a factor of 100, so on so forth.

دادا من نمیدونم اون سلاح بدون بمب اتم دقیقا چطور کار میکنه

اگرم دقیقشو میدونستم، چون ایران لحاظ علمی سه قرن عقب افتاده باور نمیکردین شماها; و همه چی رو از این دید میخواین ببینین که کشورهای تراز اول دنیا مثل آمریکا و اروپایی چی دارن؛ اگه اونا داشتن پس ما هم ممکنه داشته باشیم و اگه اونا نداشتن، ما ایرانی ها که تا قرن ها مهد تمدن و دانش دنیا بودیم محاله چیزی پیشرفته تر از اونا تولید کنیم

Future will prove Iranian capabilities Insha’Allah. Its just matter of time

Persia will rise again and reclaim it's place as the cradle of sciences and civilization

 

[ShapurII]

دادا من نمیدونم اون سلاح بدون بمب اتم دقیقا چطور کار میکنه

اگرم دقیقشو میدونستم، چون ایران لحاظ علمی سه قرن عقب افتاده باور نمیکردین شماها; و همه چی رو از این دید میخواین ببینین که کشورهای تراز اول دنیا مثل آمریکا و اروپایی چی دارن؛ اگه اونا داشتن پس ما هم ممکنه داشته باشیم و اگه اونا نداشتن، ما ایرانی ها که تا قرن ها مهد تمدن و دانش دنیا بودیم محاله چیزی پیشرفته تر از اونا تولید کنیم

Future will prove Iranian capabilities Insha’Allah. Its just matter of time

Persia will rise again and reclaim it's place as the cradle of sciences and civilization

نه اتفاقاً. من اصلاً‌ از اینها نیستم که بگم چون اونها ندارن پس ما هم نمی‌تونیم داشته باشیم. به نظرم هم ایران نهایتاً در بدترین ۷۰-۸۰ سال از علم روز عقب افتاده باشه اما تو بیشتر زمینه‌ها ۳۰-۵۰ سال درست‌تره

بحث فیزیک هست صرفاً. اگه از نظر فیزیکی با اعداد جور در نیاد پس به احتمال خیلی زیاد نداریم

ساده‌ترین راهکار برای بازدارندگی ایران بمب هسته‌ای هست. چیزی که همه دنیا پذیرفتن و ۸۰ سال هست آزمونش رو پس داده رو نباید برد زیرسئوال دوباره از نو شروع کرد​

 

[BigMela2onin]

Future will prove Iranian capabilities Insha’Allah. Its just matter of time

Persia will rise again and reclaim it's place as the cradle of sciences and civilization

That's not going to happen just because you say it will. Action needs to be taken to bring that about. Real, tangible public pressure to change treasonous policies is necessary. Your fantastical thinking about non-existent super weapons breeds complacency. For Iran to rise again, serious and widespread change is needed.

 

[Homajon]

Something is fishy here....the building to the right was partly destroyed, but the buildings to the left and to the top seems to be intact....I have no clue, can a ballistic missile really cause such a weird damage?
I guess IF the randome was really destroyed, than not by a ballistic missile....probably by drone(s)

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

That's not going to happen just because you say it will. Action needs to be taken to bring that about. Real, tangible public pressure to change treasonous policies is necessary. Your fantastical thinking about non-existent super weapons breeds complacency. For Iran to rise again, serious and widespread change is needed.

آینده معلوم میشه

 

[OldTwilight]

Well, IR didn't try to change its way of thinking which led in widespread infiltration of state by foreign assets ...
no change in way of thinking, no change in field.
For this kind of security breach, even weakest states would fire some people at top but IR is repeating same mistake ...

So, if we thought (we hoped) in next phase of war, Israel won't have much agent on ground and won't have much more spies, we are dead wrong.

Khamenei is ready to die and destroy I.R and Iran but doesn't accept his mistakes and failures and address them, he is keep going in same direction.

• No change is security and information structure
• No change in his Fatwa
• No change in his policy
• ....

He is unable to change, he is too old to even try to purge the obviously infiltrated security force, in fact he is too old and don't know and trust any new guys and old guys are either dead or dubious at best ....


I.R is already lost in every field; this war just rejuvenated it but they disappointed people very fast.


Look at this news, they tried to kill Pezeshkian with 6 bombs, but he is talking about negotiations. if even assassination attempt by bombing won't wake up these guys, then nothing would do ...

جزئیاتی از حملۀ اسراییل به جلسۀ شورای‌عالی امنیت ملی: پای پزشکیان جراحت برداشت/ مقامات از دریچه اضطراری خارج شدند

مدل این حمله مشابه عملیات ترور شهید سید حسن نصرالله طراحی شده بود.

www.asriran.com

 

[OldTwilight]

Fordow is gone, and Iran nuclear capabilities are as Trump like to say are "OBLIRIATED", that why they don't talk about leaving NPT. I would hope that this would be smart play by IR, but as far as I know them, they are not unified and smart enough to play this kind of scenario.

So, if we don't have capabilities to continue enrich uranium and even don't dare to make bomb, then what all of these were for!? Just like 5 years old boy who try to show defiance ....

 

[vmro]

That's not going to happen just because you say it will. Action needs to be taken to bring that about. Real, tangible public pressure to change treasonous policies is necessary. Your fantastical thinking about non-existent super weapons breeds complacency. For Iran to rise again, serious and widespread change is needed.

Changing is going on, it was hardly imaginable that Iran would be able to destroy buildings in the Tel Aviv's downtown with terrifying powerful missiles, in packet with the inhabitants of the buildings, and reject Omnipotent IDF/mossad assault planned to the smallest detail... if they go on with attacks, in revenge they will be Gaza face-look...

Don't underestimate Persia, you can lose your war even after you win all battles...Alexander's conquest??? He was hated by his soldiers for being more like a Persian admirer than an overlord... Islamization of Iran became Iranization of Islam... Mongolian attacks were the real survival challenge, but they survived...

Zionists are traumatized by the idea of being vulnerable and targets in their holy-mole entity, but they are, and they can do nothing except brutal MSM propaganda for "defeated" Iran...

This war changed everything and Iran is no longer a nuclear power, in their analysis...I mean, wow, Iran is no longer a nuclear threat, they can destroy entire blocks in 400 seconds with speedy missiles and decimate us, but who cares, Trump bombed some bunkers and that's all that matters...

Yes, Iran is probably still not a nuclear power... But this war did change nothing to defeat Iran, just made them angrier and more willing to be far more brutal in the eventual next round...

Iran took some punches on its chin also, no questions about it... But from insiders in 90% of the cases...

They are a minority and Iranian people proved it during the conflict...the real battle is inside Iran, and that is the main thing to be realized... traitors and defining the concept of national doctrine in the future are only 2 important issues for Iran now...

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Changing is going on, it was hardly imaginable that Iran would be able to destroy buildings in the Tel Aviv's downtown with terrifying powerful missiles, in packet with the inhabitants of the buildings, and reject Omnipotent IDF/mossad assault planned to the smallest detail... if they go on with attacks, in revenge they will be Gaza face-look...

Don't underestimate Persia, you can lose your war even after you win all battles...Alexander's conquest??? He was hated by his soldiers for being more like a Persian admirer than an overlord... Islamization of Iran became Iranization of Islam... Mongolian attacks were the real survival challenge, but they survived...

Zionists are traumatized by the idea of being vulnerable and targets in their holy-mole entity, but they are, and they can do nothing except brutal MSM propaganda for "defeated" Iran...

This war changed everything and Iran is no longer a nuclear power, in their analysis...I mean, wow, Iran is no longer a nuclear threat, they can destroy entire blocks in 400 seconds with speedy missiles and decimate us, but who cares, Trump bombed some bunkers and that's all that matters...

Yes, Iran is probably still not a nuclear power... But this war did change nothing to defeat Iran, just made them angrier and more willing to be far more brutal in the eventual next round...

Iran took some punches on its chin also, no questions about it... But from insiders in 90% of the cases...

They are a minority and Iranian people proved it during the conflict...the real battle is inside Iran, and that is the main thing to be realized... traitors and defining the concept of national doctrine in the future are only 2 important issues for Iran now...

Take a look around X and see how much love people are throwing at [our Azari president] Pezeshkian

 

[FUB]

نه اتفاقاً. من اصلاً‌ از اینها نیستم که بگم چون اونها ندارن پس ما هم نمی‌تونیم داشته باشیم. به نظرم هم ایران نهایتاً در بدترین ۷۰-۸۰ سال از علم روز عقب افتاده باشه اما تو بیشتر زمینه‌ها ۳۰-۵۰ سال درست‌تره

بحث فیزیک هست صرفاً. اگه از نظر فیزیکی با اعداد جور در نیاد پس به احتمال خیلی زیاد نداریم

ساده‌ترین راهکار برای بازدارندگی ایران بمب هسته‌ای هست. چیزی که همه دنیا پذیرفتن و ۸۰ سال​