Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

If you hammer their cities and refineries? Yes, they do.

Against hardened military targets? Not much.

hitting 2-3 random residential blocks in Tel Aviv per day is not a path to military victory

Israel has many more levers it can pull to inflict civilian pain

 

[Watandar]

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Each THAAD interceptor costs $13M. The US has bought ~650 since 2010—and used nearly a quarter during Israel’s 12-day war with Iran. Replenishing them could take over a year and up to $2B. “The worry,” says one expert, “is Iran might do this again—and we can’t afford that.”

Israel’s 12-Day War Revealed Alarming Gap in America’s Missile Stockpile - More than 150 Thaad interceptors were fired by 2 batteries - About 80 SM-3s were launched by warships. Military officials now say replenishing stockpiles is a top priority.

WOW!

I think real purpose behind this story is discouraging those who are already clamoring for a Round 2 with Iran. The Iranian missiles did their job in reestablishing deterrence and hurting Israel, alongwith American defense preparedness.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

some truth to it

CIA wants IR to believe missile shield was totally ineffective!
(creating an illusion)

 

[Arash]

If they don’t, then they would say the Iranians did not want to negotiate. They were. It willing to negotiate. If you look at Russia / Ukraine, the Russians attend the meetings but nothing happens :

The same, with the Nuclear doctrine . We do not want it , that is what is said publicly,but behind the scenes everyone knows Iran is a non-declared nuclear state .

And that is the issue. It MUST be a declared nuclear power. See how NK or Pakistan sanctuarized themselves.........

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

milliseconds before Iranian MRBM RV impacts at Bezan oil refinery in Haifa (three missiles impacted within a few seconds)

seconds before the impact, an AD battery at the facility fired a large number of interceptors (smoke trails on the right)

 

[Persian Gulf]

80 SM-3
150 THAAD

crazy numbers ...

@ShapurII

 

[Persian Gulf]

but some will tell us that IRI just wants Israel to hold a referendum ... lol

 

[Immortals]

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milliseconds before Iranian MRBM RV impacts at Bezan oil refinery in Haifa (three missiles impacted within a few seconds)

seconds before the impact, an AD battery at the facility fired a large number of interceptors (smoke trails on the right)

Why does that missile still have its second stage attached? The only missiles that do that are old SCUD based ones that don’t have a separating warhead.

Which points to Iran using old missiles (either by choice or forced to due to missile bases being under constant bombardment).

 

[BigMela2onin]

Which points to Iran using old missiles (either by choice or forced to due to missile bases being under constant bombardment).

Older missiles being able to bypass THAAD, SM3, and arrow and hit a HVT lile the refinery would be a good thing

 

[vmro]

Looks like they didn’t wipe out enough IRGC generals.

Meanwhile, they are quiet about the US B-2 and Tomahawks bombing their nation and them not doing a single thing besides hitting a radar post in Qatar.

They dropped hundreds of tomahawks on Serbia, ordinary subsonic cruise missiles, I am not sure how useful for bunker busting they are...

 

[Immortals]

Older missiles being able to bypass THAAD, SM3, and arrow and hit a HVT lile the refinery would be a good thing

Probably due to luck. A missile with its second stage attached lights up on space based radar but if it’s in a salvo it has a small chance it can get thru. If it’s alone it has no shot.Fire enough older missiles some will get thru.

The fact that Iran didn’t use Khorramshahr on the refinery (much higher destructive payload) means that either A) they were not able to be used B) Iran choose to not use them for whatever reason.

But the fact remains Iran was firing 25-35 missiles most of the war. That is far too low a number.

I told this board feeding Hezbollah to Israeli war machine would come back to bite Iran. I’m sure a large part of the Iranian war plans was Hezbollah firing rockets and drones during a war to help Iranian missiles get thru.

In the last 5 years Israel managed to kill every major IRGC & HZ general/officer. All of that lead to Irans own nuclear facilities being hit. IRGC incompetence cost this nation a great deal of pain.

 

[Immortals]

They dropped hundreds of tomahawks on Serbia, ordinary subsonic cruise missiles, I am not sure how useful for bunker busting they are...

They used tomahawks on above ground targets not below ground targets and likely to divert Iranian attention away from Fordow.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Probably due to luck.

not sure about that. the video shows 3 missiles hitting the refinery within 1-2 seconds

 

[FUB]