Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

From IISS pointing to the fact some missiles have decoy war heads . So the 55% interceptions were probably less much less when considering what was actually intercepted.

“One possible explanation for the very large (1,500 to 1,800 kg) payload claimed for the Khorramshahr is that it is intended to carry multiple warheads or decoy apparatus to confound missile‑defence systems … it might be cost‑effective for Iran to seek to defeat these systems with missile salvos and decoys.”

JINSA points that there were 57 impacts . It doesn’t even try to say some missiles didn’t reach Israel. It parrots the same BS that over 300 missiles hit open fields . No mention of strikes on military sites ; 57 strikes on civilian installations/ population centers . supposedly, they knew exactly which missiles to go after and they could determine which ones were not going to hit a value target.
In the CNN video you can clearly see that five interceptors were used and they still were not able to stop the missile from striking. There’s another video that we’ve all seen that shows as many as 11 interceptor being fired for one missile and they still couldn’t stop it. So how many interceptors were actually fired .
The inference from these numbers is that they had no choice, but to let the missiles strike because they could not intercept them or had to save the interceptors for the very high value targets.
The one true thing that can be said of Israel is never believe anything coming out of Israel....they wrote the book on subterfuge and misinformation.....I would think the interception rate on the latter days of the war was far below what were being led to believe l.
 
Why would you repair the entrances? When the world is watching to see what you're going to do next, you let them think Fordow is damaged beyond repair and you cannot get to the enriched uranium. Think about it, as soon as you open the entrance they would demand inspections. As long as it's closed you're holding the cards.
the enriched uranium is not in Fordow it is in tunnels in Esfahan but hopefully they move it to Qazvin or Natanz-2 or various other more protected sites

Isn't it better , Israel killing spree helped Iran to replace the old leadership with the better leaders and old military school need to be modernized and run by new brains.
in theory yes but behind those generals were another set of generals just as old and incompetent (if not more) as the first bunch. the influential political voices did not change (Khamenei, Larijani, Qalibaf, Rezaee, Shamkhani, Velayati) so they are pursuing the same broken policies.

they still want to build a country based on propaganda that's why they shamelessly claim they won the war, Israel begged for a ceasefire, Iran killed thousands of Israelis, etc. they didn't learn much. except for how vulnerable they are.
 
There were many signs that Iran had been completely infiltrated from Fakhrizadeh assassination to Haniyeh to other mysterious events to Raisi and Nasrallah.
I agree. Haniyeh's assassination should have already raised alarms about the real situation of Israeli infiltration in Iran, but it seems they greatly underestimated Israel. Haniyeh's assassination was a major sign of what was to come.
 
What is update? I heard there is a refinery which is attacked in Iran.
 
the enriched uranium is not in Fordow it is in tunnels in Esfahan but hopefully they move it to Qazvin or Natanz-2 or various other more protected sites


in theory yes but behind those generals were another set of generals just as old and incompetent (if not more) as the first bunch. the influential political voices did not change (Khamenei, Larijani, Qalibaf, Rezaee, Shamkhani, Velayati) so they are pursuing the same broken policies.

they still want to build a country based on propaganda that's why they shamelessly claim they won the war, Israel begged for a ceasefire, Iran killed thousands of Israelis, etc. they didn't learn much. except for how vulnerable they are.
1- All countries are based on propaganda, and Iran has very low propaganda, close to 0%: in fact, it needs more.

2- Was Israel who begged for a ceasefire with Trump.

3- It is publicly known that Netanyahu created a law that omits the real number of Israeli military personnel killed and locations hit. Several bases, public buildings, and Mossad headquarters were destroyed by Iran.
 
I agree. Haniyeh's assassination should have already raised alarms about the real situation of Israeli infiltration in Iran, but it seems they greatly underestimated Israel. Haniyeh's assassination was a major sign of what was to come.
Haniyeh was also under Turkish and Qatari protection and contacts, so it's was unlimited opportunity for mossad...it's different, some nationalist group in the intelligence service could be indifferent to religious duties that are devoted to Arabs and costly...

If Iran is effectively able to strike back at this moment, and with already improved AD, but level beyond previous striking power, definitely not need to be pessimistic in the expecting of the next round...
 
Here’s how you know they got their shit kicked out of him. Immediately they come out and deny the dad anything to do with this fire. The community notes are under their thump . Read it if you have access to X.
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Here’s how you know they got their shit kicked out of him. Immediately they come out and deny the dad anything to do with this fire. The community notes are under their thump . Read it if you have access to X.
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IT's fake news, "israel" didn't attack iran.
 
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I hope this helps you realise the reality on the ground. There are still Israeli agents active in Iran.


I come across this today. Very sad indeed! The Iranian internal security needs an overhaul. How can the terrorist menace have a field rain over Iran? They need to bring back the revolutionary fervor - the one led by rahimullah Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

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I come across this today. Very sad indeed! The Iranian internal security needs an overhaul. How can the terrorist menace have a field rain over Iran? They need to bring back the revolutionary fervor - the one led by rahimullah Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

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This is how they begin, series of sabotage to disorientate you then heavier blows.

Recall prior the previous battle there was a massive explosion on an Iranian port. We now know this was almost certainly Israeli agents following the extent of the infiltration that has come to light.

Winners don't sit around waiting to get slapped....grow a pair.
 
Israel is much more resilient than you think

Hezbollah fired rockets at Tel Aviv daily for weeks and hit central Tel Aviv with large rockets last year and destroyed many buildings, did Iran do something significantly different? more hits and more damaging, but same kind of thing.
Hezbollah's rockets did not bring down buildings...let's not kid ourselves. On one hand, we got people saying Iran won the war, on the other saying Iran lost, and that they suck in every way. Neither of the two camps are correct. The truth is Iran has been badmouthed in the world press for 40 yrs. Our military equipment and achievements were ridiculed in the media on a daily basis, it was the US and Israel that enjoyed the aura of invincibility, not us. The 12 day war perhaps didn't damage the US reputation, but it sure as hell damaged Israel's reputation....shit, even Hamas embarrassed them before us. So, yeah, I do believe we bruised their ego....in a big way. Iran didn't win, but we sure as hell didn't lose. And they gave Israel a bloody nose to show for it...
No amount of media blackout can hide the truth from the strategist. Besides, I'm sure Chinese satellites are giving Iran all the proof they need.
 
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This is how they begin, series of sabotage to disorientate you then heavier blows.

Recall prior the previous battle there was a massive explosion on an Iranian port. We now know this was almost certainly Israeli agents following the extent of the infiltration that has come to light.

Winners don't sit around waiting to get slapped....grow a pair.
Well, I see the different message in the actions. The actions of sabotage is telling me they can't beat us in the open so they desperately need to inflict pain in this manner. This is a sign of weakness..not strength. If anything it is a sign that they don't have the stomach for round 2.0.
 
So, yeah, I do believe we bruised their ego....in a big way.

Oh wow…Iran bruised their ego? How will they recover from that?

Meanwhile they destroyed many components of Iran’s nuclear program that took years to build and incredible cost and effort.

This has always been what’s wrong with Iranian thinking.

They kill Solemani. We give some troops headaches in Iraq.

They bomb our embassy. We fire some missiles with ample warning at Israel.

It’s this terrible escalation response system that brought the war to Iran’s soil in the end. Something many on here warned would happen.
 
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Oh wow…Iran bruised their ego? How will they recover from that?

Meanwhile they destroyed many components of Iran’s nuclear program that took years to build and incredible cost and effort.

This has always been what’s wrong with Iranian thinking.

They kill Solemani. We give some troops headaches in Iraq.

They bomb our embassy. We fire some missiles with ample warning at Israel.

It’s this terrible escalation response system that brought the war to Iran’s soil in the end. Something many on here warned would happen.
And what you're advocating is an all out war...do you want to go to war? Do you live in Iran? Are you going to join those young men in the front line? Then choose your words wisely......these are big stakes, these are people's lives we're talking about, things that should not be taken lightly. Yes, we do have a crappy leadership and government......but what you're asking for is ordinary Iranians getting blown up instead of structures.
If you don't have a stake in the fight, or the fact there is different flag under you name in your profile, you should temper your tough talk. Young men will die for those words, while you're (and myself) in the US sitting on the sofa watching Marvel movies.
 

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