Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

I remember seeing a relatively reputable X user about 6-9 months ago post on X where he said “Iran shows more symptoms like a late stage Soviet Union collapse than a country that might have to fight a war against the West”

And I thought “this dude is an idiot for comparing Iran to pre collapse Soviet Union. Sure Iran has its problems, but Iran still has some cards left to play and the Israeli’s aren’t dumb enough to start another war”……But man was I wrong even assuming that.

The night Assad left Syria, was the night the collapse was set into motion. It’s only a matter of if not when, unless a miracle comes from the heavens.

With HZ fighting disarmament, the Iraqi PMUs retreating back into society, the Syrian resistance non existent, Hamas a rag tag group of militiamen…the era of Iran’s formidable power is coming to a close.

Iran will likely give up everything (enrichment) and support for (now non existent) foreign groups and maybe even accept a non-aggression pact with Israel for full integration back into world economy. That will only accerlate the end of the theocracy and with any luck the IRGC may end up undergoing a Western ‘make over’ and coming out as pragmatics. If Jew-lani can be cleaned for Western audiences, then sure enough the IRGC can.

But mark my words: Russia and China will curse the day they let Iran fall. Because the Western war machine will only have 2 countries left from total global domination. (North Korea might as well be on a different planet).

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Listen to this genius obviously they have not learned a lesson. This fucking government has no control. If the Russians are not an ally as this useless donkey says at least they’re not an enemy. What’s the point of antagonizing a world power?
Maybe someone needs to show him the videos online showing drones and spike ATGM strikes on the AD.

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It is true that Russia has been consistently dragging its feet to assist Iran when it comes to Israel. They dragged their feet over S300 missiles for over a decade and only delivered it after Iran sued them in ICJ courts. The SU-35 deal also did not materialize. So it is obvious Russia was not genuine in its relationship with Iran while Iran provided them with Shaheed drones and the technology to manufacture them. Let us not forget the powerful Zionist Jewish lobby in Russia, and this could be the main reason why Russia plays double game in its relationship with Iran.

Besides, the guy that made the below allegation is a parliamentarian. So it is within his right to raise the issue within the Iranian parliament. He is most likely pressuring the Executive branch of the govt to explain why they see Russia as an ally when it backstabs them repeatedly.

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[muhammed45]

I remember seeing a relatively reputable X user about 6-9 months ago post on X where he said “Iran shows more symptoms like a late stage Soviet Union collapse than a country that might have to fight a war against the West”

And I thought “this dude is an idiot for comparing Iran to pre collapse Soviet Union. Sure Iran has its problems, but Iran still has some cards left to play and the Israeli’s aren’t dumb enough to start another war”……But man was I wrong even assuming that.

The night Assad left Syria, was the night the collapse was set into motion. It’s only a matter of if not when, unless a miracle comes from the heavens.

With HZ fighting disarmament, the Iraqi PMUs retreating back into society, the Syrian resistance non existent, Hamas a rag tag group of militiamen…the era of Iran’s formidable power is coming to a close.

Iran will likely give up everything (enrichment) and support for (now non existent) foreign groups and maybe even accept a non-aggression pact with Israel for full integration back into world economy. That will only accerlate the end of the theocracy and with any luck the IRGC may end up undergoing a Western ‘make over’ and coming out as pragmatics. If Jew-lani can be cleaned for Western audiences, then sure enough the IRGC can.

But mark my words: Russia and China will curse the day they let Iran fall. Because the Western war machine will only have 2 countries left from total global domination. (North Korea might as well be on a different planet).

When we warned that Khatami is our Khrushchev, he might start normalilzing Iran in of favor west and Zionists and Rouhani will become an other Gorbachev, they laughed. Oh, we want to be peaceful, we are angels. We this we that.

If you said that Iran will be attacked when Obama was US president, you wold have been accused of being a hardline, a warmonger, a terrorist etc. Now that US is gloves off, they are again insulting us for being careless.

After signing JCPOA crap, it was all started. Thankfully, the leadership of Iran is man of dark hours and hard times. So, no worries. Iranians are people of hard times.

 

[vizier]

Russia in the long run would be a good partner if they survive this Ukraine trap. It is better for both China and Iran to pressure Russia for a stable ceasefire as in the long run an unstable Russia would at most hurt minorities living in the peripheries of Russia like was the case for chechnia in 90s and this source of unstability can spread out to other countries as well.
However Putin has too close connections with israel as some of the oligarchs moving the economy are connected there and even himself is supposed to have partially ethnic Hebrew background from his mothers side. It is common knowledge now and available everywhere. So it is not a good time to turn your back to Russia trusting them but also not a good time to alienate and turn against them either as they have considerable power. So dont give reason to putin to turn Russia against you as well as dont turn your back to him either. It is a game of balance.

 

[Persian Gulf]

fewer than 10 batteries of Bavar-373.

yes, a lot fewer. like 0 operational batteries

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[BigMela2onin]

After signing JCPOA crap, it was all started. Thankfully, the leadership of Iran is man of dark hours and hard times. So, no worries. Iranians are people of hard times.

In 15-20 years we will learn that khamenei is actually a jew spy like eli cohen. Otherwise, it means we have the worst, most incompetent leader in modern human history except for maybe Pol Pot, whose only plan for resistance against the west was no nukes, no missiles, no proxies, no military, no negotiations, and no war!
You think the jews managed to kill so many officials in the opening hours of the war and just didn't target him until "he was in his bunker"?

 

[Sarhang]

Suddenly we see people acting shocked and disgusted at the behavior of the ayatollahs. But for those of us who have followed Iranian affairs for decades none of this comes as a surprise. We saw it coming many, many years ago. We already knew how incompetent and corrupt the ruling system was. We were fully aware that the people in power held their positions through nepotism, not talent or merit.

We knew that in the system of the ayatollahs, the only way to climb higher was if you licked enough boots, were ready to lie, and had the ability to kill and then still sleep soundly at night. And above all you had to be ready to betray Iran and its people the moment you were asked to do so.

A system whose supposed responsibility is to represent the majority of the people is instead busy chasing jinns preparing for the reappearance of hidden imams and parading as the self claimed flag bearer of the ''oppressed''.

This is not governance but it is the institutionalization of superstition and the deliberate replacement of reason with mythology.

They do not represent modern Iran they represent a deliberate regression, a clear and conscious effort to drag society back centuries while disguising it as ''fighting injustice globally''.

But of course not everything is black and white. Iranian society itself with a full stomach and blinded by illusions decided in 1978 that it was ready to sacrifice the nation for spiritualism and empty slogans.

In the course of world history a period of 50 or 100 years is nothing, it is just a drop in the bucket. Iran under the IR will eventually be remembered not as a triumph but as a sad story.

It will stand as proof that a nation can destroy itself not because it lacked resources or talent but because it surrendered its future to ideology and fear.

 

[Shafagh]

—️// BREAKING: The E3 will initiate the process of activating the 'snapback' mechanism of the JCPOA to reimpose UN sanctions on Iran tomorrow - Reuters

And I.R. is still negotiating.

It's time for new fucking management

 

[Nuffle]

But mark my words: Russia and China will curse the day they let Iran fall. Because the Western war machine will only have 2 countries left from total global domination. (North Korea might as well be on a different planet).

If China and/or Russia allow Iran to fall, then they deserve to be defeated by the Western alliance. This is a geopolitical mistake equivalent to the US invasion of Iraq, a true global geopolitical disaster.

Their only hope is to hope that regime change in Tehran won't guarantee a government friendly to the US or Israel, but that's unlikely, as was the case with Syria.

 

[Shafagh]

If China and/or Russia allow Iran to fall, then they deserve to be defeated by the Western alliance. This is a geopolitical mistake equivalent to the US invasion of Iraq, a true global geopolitical disaster.

Their only hope is to hope that regime change in Tehran won't guarantee a government friendly to the US or Israel, but that's unlikely, as was the case with Syria.

Nobody worthwhile is rallying to take over. Somebody needs to get rid of these mullahs.

Get rid of the senior generals too. They are useless.

Somebody in middle leadership needs to step up.

We are watching Iran's downfall and there are still zealots saying "I have faith in Khamenei"

 

[BigMela2onin]

Nobody worthwhile is rallying to take over. Somebody needs to get rid of these mullahs.

Get rid of the senior generals too. They are useless.

Somebody in middle leadership needs to step up.

We are watching Iran's downfall and there are still zealots saying "I have faith in Khamenei"

Best option would be military coup like Free Officers Movement in Egypt did. Top levels of military are just as decadent and corrupt as the civilian leadership. This is extremely unlikely to happen though.

 

[Shafagh]

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Best option would be military coup like Free Officers Movement in Egypt did. Top levels of military are just as decadent and corrupt as the civilian leadership. This is extremely unlikely to happen though.

It is absolutely necessary.

Execute them all. Imprison their families. It is time to make an example of them.

The nations best scientists, engineers, soldiers, all working and fighting valiantly. They gave them the tools they needed, and their leaders totally shit the bed.

 

[Immortals]

Nobody worthwhile is rallying to take over. Somebody needs to get rid of these mullahs.

Get rid of the senior generals too. They are useless.

Somebody in middle leadership needs to step up.

We are watching Iran's downfall and there are still zealots saying "I have faith in Khamenei"

The only person worthwhile was Solemani. He was the 2nd most popular figure in Iran.

Instead he kept wanting to be on the battlefront rather than serve his nation from behind a desk. While noble in some regards, his death in 2020 only further accelerated Iran’s demise.

The IRGC without Solemani grew grossly incompetent and no one could fill his shoes properly. Not Nasrallah nor Qaani.

 

[ShapurII]

If China and/or Russia allow Iran to fall, then they deserve to be defeated by the Western alliance. This is a geopolitical mistake equivalent to the US invasion of Iraq, a true global geopolitical disaster.

Their only hope is to hope that regime change in Tehran won't guarantee a government friendly to the US or Israel, but that's unlikely, as was the case with Syria.

I can guarantee you 100% that if the regime falls in Iran, the most pro-Israel, pro-US country in Asia will be born. But Russia and China don't care apparently.

China is less guilty in this though. They're just indifferent. To be fair, they have made it clear time and times again that they prefer that Iran finds a way to resolve its issues with the US diplomatically. They don't interfere in Iran as much as the Russians do.