Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

So if any of Iran's centrifuges survived, the stockpile is accessible, how quickly can Iran turn it into weapons grade and then build a warhead?
How many centrifuges would be required?
It is impossible to answer your question because first of all, your question is not well-defined.
How many centrifuges are required? The more, the faster. But let's study it in more detail.

Scenario I: Iran has access to nearly 440 kg of 60% HEU
This is the most optimistic scenario. So far evidence suggests that our HEU has been buried under debris and is inaccessible, but this is the only scenario where Iran can still build an atomic bomb. So, let's study this first.

A) How much uranium will we get? We have 440 kilogram of 60% HEU. If we assume that we are enriching it to 90% with a tail assay of 0.23%, we will get nearly 290 kg of 90% HEU.
B) How many centrifuges do we need? To get from 440 kilogram of 60% HEU to 290 kilogram of 90% HEU in a year, we will need 2,200 SWU UF6/year. That is about 370 IR-6 centrifuges. If we want to do this in just one month, it depends on your configuration and cascading, but you can more or less claim that your output is added linearly in the ideal theoretical situation. So, you will need 26,400 SWU UF6/year. That is about 4,500 IR-6 centrifuges.
C) How many advanced centrifuges can Iran have? Prior to the attack, the ICAC at Natanz boasted that it could assemble 60 IR-6 centrifuges per day. We do not know of the extent of damage to ICAC. Parts of ICAC had been moved underground due to an Israeli sabotage operation years ago. Again, we're in the dark but Iran would need about 11 weeks to produce enough IR-6 centrifuges to reach the required capacity for uranium enrichment.

So, the short answer is in the most optimistic scenario, if we assume Iran is still in possession of the 60% HEU it stockpiled and it can still produce IR-6 centrifuges, it would take from one month to three months to convert ~440kg 60% HEU to ~290kg 90% HEU.

D) Can Iran build a bomb in 3 months? Short answer: Probably not. Even if Iran somehow enriched its stockpile to 90%, the enriched uranium will be in the UF6 gaseous form. It has to be converted into uranium metal before it could be weaponized. And Iran's only uranium conversion facility has been destroyed. Besides that, if you want to build a boosted fission weapon, you will need deuterium and tritium for that. Iran's heavy water production has been destroyed as well. So, if Iran doesn't have other undeclared facilities for those things, we will still be unable to produce a nuclear weapon.

Scenario II: Iran has to start from scratch
This seems to be the most realistic scenario now. The short answer is that Iran will never become a threshold nuclear state again. Why?

First, you have to mine uranium. Fortunately, our uranium ores like Saghand haven't been targeted, it seems. After you have mined uranium, you need milling to convert it into yellow cake (U3O8). I knew of two yellow-cake production facilities at Ardakan and Bandar Abbas and both have been hit from what I remember. So, that's your first obstacle.

Second, imagine you have enough yellowcake. After all, Iran imported tons of yellow cake from Russia after the JCPOA and maybe we still have some yellow cake left. You will still need to refine it into UO2 and UO3, and then convert it into green salt (UF4) and eventually UF6 gas to feed it into your centrifuges. We have lost critical components of this chain as well.

So, in this case, the short answer seems to be never, because as Pezeshkian said, even if we attempt to rebuild our nuclear infrastructure, there is no guarantee that they will not bomb them again.

There are other ways to produce HEU, such as laser isotope separation. We have experimented with this. Fortunately, the Shah that these fools here like to badmouth had imported LIS technology in 1975 from the US and Iran has experimented with it in Lashkar Abad in 2003. It can help us circumvent many of these obstacles, but it is something that Iran has to do clandestinely and if we're caught, it may have severe consequences for Iran.
 
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The future of Iran was supposed to be Russia and China in a strategic alliance with Iran to rival the west.

Instead mistakes on Iran’s side and on China and on Russia have left Iran out in the cold.

Blaming Pezheskian for this is beyond retarded. He is an idiot for a lot of things, but not for failing to create a strategic alliance with these countries.

Who can remember when Russian fighters landed in Iran for fueling and this backwards Majil’s started screaming about sovereignty and Russia having “military bases” on Iranian soil. I vividly remember members from this very forum defending this backwards government saying the constitution and foreign powers shouldn’t have any foothold in iran.

Now people cry we need to “turn to China”, “china is the future”. As if China even WANTS iran. What does Iran have to offer besides headaches and oil?

Turn to China was 20 years ago when this country was still chanting “neither east nor west”. Well you got what you wanted neither the east support you neither the west.
 
This was a week ago and there is zero further news regarding this. Tells you all you need to know about its "urgency"

The golden most opportunity to get out of NPT stupidity was when General Soleimani was assassinated. US broke the international law by targeting a serving or uniformed high ranking officer of a sovereign nation on a diplomatic mission to another sovereign nation. Any normal country would have tested 10-12 devices and ripped off the NPT apart right away because Iran was not the aggressor, it was attacked. Instead Khamenei made sure that Iran does not go "strategic" under his watch so IRGCAF just gave concussion to 150 or so random US soldiers in return. Iran lost its national symbol of defence in Soleimani, it could have returned the favor saying that it was attacked so its getting out of NPT, but Khamenei's fatwa came in between. Most of them have their families settled abroad so how can they even think of going against the aggressor west that just took out the biggest military figure in Iran ? As long as these old mullahs are in power following cant happen or they wont let it happen:

ICBMs
IRIAF
Nukes
SSBNs
LEO constellation
Investment in HC sector
Countering Anti Iranian nations regionally

IRI makes sure Iran the potential great power (oil, national wealth, human capital) never ever achieves anything strategic which is why Israel, US wont ever take them out. They will kill Soleimanis and Hajizadeh and Fakhrozadehs but never these Mullah leaders at top.
 
The future of Iran was supposed to be Russia and China in a strategic alliance with Iran to rival the west.

Instead mistakes on Iran’s side and on China and on Russia have left Iran out in the cold.

Blaming Pezheskian for this is beyond retarded. He is an idiot for a lot of things, but not for failing to create a strategic alliance with these countries.

Who can remember when Russian fighters landed in Iran for fueling and this backwards Majil’s started screaming about sovereignty and Russia having “military bases” on Iranian soil. I vividly remember members from this very forum defending this backwards government saying the constitution and foreign powers shouldn’t have any foothold in iran.

Now people cry we need to “turn to China”, “china is the future”. As if China even WANTS iran. What does Iran have to offer besides headaches and oil?

Turn to China was 20 years ago when this country was still chanting “neither east nor west”. Well you got what you wanted neither the east support you neither the west.
You're 100% right in these statements, however the next best time to switch the self-immolating policy of "neither east nor west" is now. Reproachment with the west is another self-immoalting policy; there is not future in which Iran develops a meaningful and peaceful relationship with the west, all they seek is to dissolve and destroy Iranian civilization permanently. Saying it's too late to switch Eastward now is yet another self-immolating policy. Changing now is the best possible way forward, but policy change isn't possible when both major political factions have the goal of destroying Iran.
 
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I find it hard to believe they just decided to leave it there, even throughout the 12 day war, and knowing a U.S. attack was imminent.

Surely they moved at least some of it?
they moved the uranium stockpile from Natanz and Fordow to Esfahan tunnels but that is also buried under rubble

and hardly surprising if they didn't move the HEU elsewhere when they didn't even move the scientists and commanders elsewhere
 


state TV releases footage of Iranian MRBMs prepared for launch exploding after being targeted by Israel moments before launch

unfortunately Israel's ability to monitor track and attack mobile assets throughout Iran was very strong

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The reason they were able to hit the launchers was due to the planned exercise. That weekend, Araghchi was to meet with Witkoff. The reason for the decapitation strike was that they were meeting for the planned exercise.
They cannot fly from that tiny country to Iran once they detect a possible launch by US satellites and take out the launchers.
There is not a single photo of an IDF plane in Iran. Not one. They launched cruise missiles from Iraqi airspace and the Caspian.

Why were they able to kill eleven of the nuclear scientists? The IAEA acted as the conduit and passed the information along to the US. They were assassinated along with their families by the use of spike anti-tank missiles and drones from inside Iran.

They do not have the element of surprise. A good portion of the assets on the ground have been eliminated. The Iraqi Erbil and Azerbademjon corridors have been exposed.
How will the next round look? I have my money on IRGC.
Some will keep worshipping the child killers even though the facts are in front of their faces.

IRAN HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF.
F..K CHILD KILLING COWARDS.
 
they moved the uranium stockpile from Natanz and Fordow to Esfahan tunnels but that is also buried under rubble

and hardly surprising if they didn't move the HEU elsewhere when they didn't even move the scientists and commanders elsewhere
They probably thought the U.S. extended the deadline for signing an agreement and so no attack was coming.

The HEU though, they had 12 days to move, even earlier could have stored it somewhere else.

If they are that donkey that they didn't think about doing so, then I don't know what to say... about them or about people still defending them.

I wouldn't be surprised if those nuclear scientists were still going to work in civilian cars, not armored ones, after assassination of Fakrizadeh. We can only hope that enough knowledge was passed down to new scientists.
 

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