Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

"we are very close to reaching an agreement on a new framework for cooperation with the IAEA."

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[StrategicBear]

I agree with the rest but not this

the West monitors Iran importing ammonium from China for missile fuel, they will track this for sure and attack it

How can they attack it if the flight path is directly from China to Iran? They can't attack a Chinese plane because that would mean war with China.

 

[Shafagh]

How can they attack it if the flight path is directly from China to Iran? They can't attack a Chinese plane because that would mean war with China.

No, but they may attempt to intercept the shipment upon arrival, car bomb or targetted assassination.

 

[FUB]

What is it going to take for The stupid ruling class to realize the other side wants nothing but their heads on a plate . Iran was in the middle of negotiations when it was attacked . One day there is an emergency meeting to pull out of the NPT the other day they are negotiating with the same IAEA that killed 11 scientists. Americans have a saying “ I missed the memo.” Do you want see a preview of what the future would look like if you don’t prevail? Gaza , Lydia , Syria is the model . They’re openly saying it. That’s what they prefer and these idiots are still negotiating instead for f getting armed to the teeth.
Mike Pence was just at a rally in ith MK.

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[Shafagh]

What is it going to take for The stupid ruling class to realize the other side wants nothing but their heads on a plate . Iran was in the middle of negotiations when it was attacked . One day there is an emergency meeting to pull out of the NPT the other day they are negotiating with the same IAEA that killed 11 scientists. Americans have a saying “ I missed the memo.” Do you want see a preview of what the future would look like if you don’t prevail? Gaza , Lydia , Syria is the model . They’re openly saying it. That’s what they prefer and these idiots are still negotiating instead for f getting armed to the teeth.
Mike Pence was just at a rally in ith MK.

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Get armed to the teeth with what?

Nuke takes time. It is extremely high risk.

Nobody is willing to sell conventional arms to Iran, save for North Korea.

That is why I have been saying, buy Pongae 5 and other air defence systems from them.

 

[Shafagh]

there is not much incentive for NK to do that. it is not suicidal

Western satellites monitor movement at all NK and Iranian nuclear sites and key ports etc, even beyond infiltration of key individuals in the value chain and intercepting comms

North Korea will be fine.

There is nothing left to sanction, and nobody will go to war with them. Even Trump likes to blow smoke up Kim's ass.

 

[kobra]

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lots of stories about missile launching operations under fire (drones)

12 officers were martyred trying to launch one missile, but the 13th officer managed to launch the missile

and the quoted tweet is about IRIB manager (Hooman Khalili) who showed incredible bravery and stayed in the building while it was attacked by Israel and walked out of the burning building nonchalantly after the others were shouting at him to leave but he stayed to transfer the signal so the broadcast wouldn't be cut off

Hats off.. Such a courageous nation and soldiers. And there are pigs who runs like rat towards holes after just hearing the sirens.

 

[FUB]

Get armed to the teeth with what?

Nuke takes time. It is extremely high risk.

Nobody is willing to sell conventional arms to Iran, save for North Korea.

That is why I have been saying, buy Pongae 5 and other air defence systems from them.

Iran is a nuclear weapons state . The mullah needs to give the approval so
آبه پاکی رو روی دستشون بریزن
They did just fine with what they had considering . AD was hacked for 8 hours and they were taking incredible punishment from inside Iran.
The Chinese see the writing on the wall. They are the real target . This country needs to pivot 100% east . The West is dead . It’s economy is service and financial fuckary. What happened with the Trump Putin summit wasn’t that supposed to be a cease-fire agreement? Trump just authorized 3000 long range strike missiles for Ukraine.

I see it . I hear it every day. They don’t want peace . They want capitulation and they will accept nothing else . Why? Because Israel controls everything.
The school board in Beverly Hills just made it mandatory that the Israeli flags must be flown at all school campuses. How long do you think before that is going to be mandated across all 50 states?

 

[Shafagh]

Iran is a nuclear weapons state . The mullah needs to give the approval so
آبه پاکی رو روی دستشون بریزن
They did just fine with what they had considering . AD was hacked for 8 hours and they were taking incredible punishment from inside Iran.
The Chinese see the writing on the wall. They are the real target . This country needs to pivot 100% east . The West is dead . It’s economy is service and financial fuckary. What happened with the Trump Putin summit wasn’t that supposed to be a cease-fire agreement? Trump just authorized 3000 long range strike missiles for Ukraine.

I see it . I hear it every day. They don’t want peace . They want capitulation and they will accept nothing else . Why? Because Israel controls everything.
The school board in Beverly Hills just made it mandatory that the Israeli flags must be flown at all school campuses. How long do you think before that is going to be mandated across all 50 states?

Did you not see the documentary about the 12 Day War that somebody uploaded? They interviewed IRGC AF officers who saw action. They lost 12 officers trying to launch a single missile, 40 of them in one 70 missile launch salvo.

For us, looking at Iran from outside, and egging them to get a bomb is easy. For Iranians, it is their lives they have to pay for it.

As you said, Israeli controlled ZOG empire dominates the west. It is a dangerous entity, and only Iran, North Korea, and Yemen stand against them. NOBODY ELSE.

China only now is starting to get powerful enough to counter them, but they are only in the early stages of superpower status.

ZOG empire has its tentacles firmly embedded in the global economic, legal and geopolitical institutions.


Also, FYI, they cancelled that Israeli flag Beverly Hills school board policy after massive backlash and death threats. So no, ZOG is running out of time. In 15-20 years, Americans will hate Israel more than they hate Iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Its location and a population of 90 million. The alternative is national death, take your pick.

Population of 90 million to do what? Give me something specific Iran has to offer China except for discounted oil.

 

[FUB]

Did you not see the documentary about the 12 Day War that somebody uploaded? They interviewed IRGC AF officers who saw action. They lost 12 officers trying to launch a single missile, 40 of them in one 70 missile launch salvo.

For us, looking at Iran from outside, and egging them to get a bomb is easy. For Iranians, it is their lives they have to pay for it.

As you said, Israeli controlled ZOG empire dominates the west. It is a dangerous entity, and only Iran, North Korea, and Yemen stand against them. NOBODY ELSE.

China only now is starting to get powerful enough to counter them, but they are only in the early stages of superpower status.

ZOG empire has its tentacles firmly embedded in the global economic, legal and geopolitical institutions.


Also, FYI, they cancelled that Israeli flag Beverly Hills school board policy after massive backlash and death threats. So no, ZOG is running out of time. In 15-20 years, Americans will hate Israel more than they hate Iran.

The documentary is both propaganda and a reflection of reality. It is state-approved.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Population of 90 million to do what? Give me something specific Iran has to offer China except for discounted oil.

Labor, it can become a site of low tech manufacturing as China transitions to high tech manufacturing. Iran has nothing else to offer that can't be found elsewhere easier and with less risk. The best we can aspire to realistically is to become like Vietnam, maybe a little better due to resource extraction.

 

[Shafagh]

Population of 90 million to do what? Give me something specific Iran has to offer China except for discounted oil.

Trade routes, a massive market, a country that can create problems for the U.S. to keep them bogged down in the middle east in case they decide to take military action against one of their neighbours.

Iran also has minerals, ore.

It also has world class pharmaceuticals.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Different time, similar West.

They're doing the same for Ukraine. Ukraine used to be a pro-Russia state before 2008.
The US is not destroying Libya either. What is the US doing in Libya that I don't know of?

Ukraine was used as fodder and been annihilated as a nation because of how many men they've lost. Libya is already destroyed, it has no central government and is in perpetual civil war.

As for Syria, Syria is literally ruled by an Islamic terrorist group. It's HTS for God's sake lol Do you really think the US will just be OK with radical Islam because they helped them topple Assad? If Syria had become a secular pro-US country, the situation would've been very different for today's Syria.

The US turned a blind eye to radical Islam taking over a country once in 1979. They're not going to make the same mistake.

US loves radical Islam, they paved the way for its rise during the Cold War. Their issue of radical Islam is not as big as they say, most of the time their interests align with these groups.

The West has always been fascist. If anything, today's West is much more liberal than the West in 1940s.

They gained control over the oil in Syria since 2011. Trump is not the kind of person you would want to refer to in a serious argument lol The US maintained strong military presence in the east of Syria where most of oil is (Deir ez-Zur) since the very beginning of the civil war, securing their oil interests.

So what? Let them have our oil. The Seven Sisters controlled Iran's oil in 70s and we were still doing better than today economically.

I'm not sure how you plan to run a country without resources to extract and sell. Iran isn't exactly a service or manufacturing powerhouse.

Khamenei is a KGB agent. There is strong evidence to support that. None of his actions have benefitted the West or Israel by design, but rather by stupidity or Russian decisions. Whatever he has done, and whatever he does today, is at the dictates of comrade Putin.

I disagree but ultimately irrelevant.

LMAO You think an eastern puppet won't be a failed state? Seriously? Dude, Russia itself is a failed state. Look at "eastern puppets": Cuba, North Korea, Belarus, Venezuela, Somalia, Yemen, Nicaragua. What a list of prosperous nations lol None of them is a failed state lol

No if your forced to give obscene concessions to another nation, I'd rather give it to China than the US. Countries like Cuba have gotten worse since the fall of the USSR sure, but the rest I wouldn't qualify as puppets.

Now look at the list of Western puppets: Japan, South Korea, Germany, Turkey, etc. They're all failed states. People are escaping from these miserable countries to those prosperous eastern puppets.

I think we will ultimately disagree on this, these nations were built up in the post-WW2 order, again, so they wouldn't become communist. I don't think their examples can be repeated.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

️ Telegraph -
Iran has highly fortified nuclear sites, including a mountain complex near Natanz at a depth of 160 m :

It is twice as fortified as Fordo, which was targeted by 12 GBU-57 bombs without decisive results
Known as "Mountain of Strength", it is an ideal location for hiding highly enriched uranium, as its tunnels can withstand even a nuclear explosion
Iran also has a deep facility near Isfahan that Washington failed to destroy

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These claims could be false stories designed to get the Trump administration to start bombing Iran. Zios is definitely up to something with these stories they're planting in their propaganda outlets.