Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35

[StrategicBear]

yes, interception been made over 10 to 13 points.

Those SM-3 and Patriots, THAAD were no match for the Hypersonic ones that got through like a knife through butter and struck with ferocity though.

 

[Fatman17]

To be or not to be?

 

[muhammed45]

China will not sell the jets until sanctions are removed which they won´t be and China will protect their air defense industry from second sanctions.

Iran should first rather focus on removing the sanctions

Lol. A good suggestion. First beg west for sanctions relief and then go for China while we will always refuse beggars.

 

[Developereo]

doesn't want be seen as ‘protected by foreign powers’ so putin‘s offers got turned down, multiple times

Why would Iran trust Putin to protect it from Israel?

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Putin is just as much under Zionist control as the West. He always affirms that Russia is committed to Israel's safety. A large percentage of Israelis are of Russian origin.

 

[MH.Yang]

I get your point. The whole political atmosphere has been friendly with China for hundreds of years. I have always thought about this historical reality.

Biggest problem of reformists in Iran is self humiliation when it comes to west. And it didn't start with our reformists. From Qajar dynasty to this day, west worshippers weakened Iran. They have a base among the public too. Hence their vote is influential. You may think that this is just a political game played by Iranian leader to have two branches and hide his true intention behind that game. No, reformist or fundamentalism is not his inventions. Our leader is a revolutionary man. And above that all, an Islamic leader. Islamic leaders care about public opinion even if it costs their lives. Politics is not a tool in their hands to fool their people.

If you want to know more about Shia leaders and their thoughts and also if you want to deeply get to know them well, you should read the book of Nahj al-Balagha. It's a book that's been praised by Christian researcher George Jordac. He says, I read this book for 40 times and still I found it interesting to read it again. A Lebanese Christian that before reading that book never held a positive opinion about Muslims. Then read Jordac's book 'the human justice' which is based upon his understandings of that holy book. Note, Christians are naturally foes of Muslims. So his opinions is opinions of a foe not a neutral man like a Chinese man.

I know that you Chinese freidns are not religious and you are known to be communist people, but after all, it's just a book. And books if they don't defy basic ethics, always increase our knowledge even if we don't accept them. They are all food for thought.

I know Chinese as an ancient civilization with a proud history.

Regards

There are 30 million Muslims in China, with the Shiite Tajiks having a strong presence in Chinese politics. However, most Chinese are atheists who are not opposed to any religious beliefs, but are also not interested in any religion.

Chinese favoritism towards Iranians comes from the fact that they are heirs to Persian civilization, not religion. Our dislike of the Jews comes from their genocidal behavior against the Palestinians and the Jewish media's blockade of public opinion, not from religion either.

The Chinese cannot understand the contradictions and divisions between Sunnis and Shiites, but hope that the two factions can unite together to deal with Israel and the U.S. and stop the tragedy of the Palestinian children. China also made efforts to do so, but China's efforts failed. The Chinese are full of hope and disappointment, goodwill and anger towards the countries in the Middle East. I I I don't know. We do not know, how long we will have to wait before the children of Palestine can live in a world of peace and security. No matter what the conflict between Sunni and Shia is about, these children are innocent.

 

[MH.Yang]

China will not sell the jets until sanctions are removed which they won´t be and China will protect their air defense industry from second sanctions.

Iran should first rather focus on removing the sanctions

I really want to know how these sanctions threaten China's aviation industry? Do the United States and Israel want to ban PLAAF from purchasing CAC's J-20?

AVIC does not need to import anything from Western countries, nor does it export anything to Western countries. How do the United States and Israel sanction it?

 

[ety]

China will not sell the jets until sanctions are removed which they won´t be and China will protect their air defense industry from second sanctions.

Iran should first rather focus on removing the sanctions

I think UN arms sanctions on Iran had ended in 2020. There are none now. I don' think China cares about US and EU own sanctions on Iran.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iran will stick to Su35 deal, we just trained our pilots and ground crew ...
it's not rational to cancel the deal right now.

and for current conflict , buying s300 and s400 , Buks , tor m1 from Russia is more feasible than purchasing anything from China ....

although nothing can equalize the power balance better than nukes for us

Russia is tied up a war, and her ability to deliver anything of size, substance or value is rather limited at the moment. Given the capability gaps that Iran has right now, she will need to source from multiple sources to fill that capability gap. Is it wise to wait, and given Israel that opportunity of a capability hole that Israel can exercise at will or is it best to fill that gap asap ?

Su35 should form part of the fleet if Russia can deliver quickly enough, but at Russia's delivery rate, it wont be enough.

Right now, Israel can enter the whole of Iran at will, she can go to any location and bomb at will. Israel has no restrictions. Is that a good place for Iran to be ?

Iran needs to realise it is in a war, and move to war time mode. Look at how quickly Pakistan has actioned the next set of upgrades to the PAF after the current standoff. Iran needs to show the same level of urgency.

 

[Ali_Baba]

China will not sell the jets until sanctions are removed which they won´t be and China will protect their air defense industry from second sanctions.

Iran should first rather focus on removing the sanctions

UN Military sanctions are gone. Iran has no sanctions as far as procurement of military platforms.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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To be or not to be?

It certainly looks good in that mock-up paint job !!!

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Why would Iran trust Putin to protect it from Israel?

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Putin is just as much under Zionist control as the West. He always affirms that Russia is committed to Israel's safety. A large percentage of Israelis are of Russian origin.

utter nonsense. China is the one that hasn't done much to help, Russia at least kept the Assad regime afloat for a whole decade until Putin can no longer afford the distraction

in hindsight, the fall of Syria has turned out to be a major blow to the Resistance, Israel was able to seize the time window, thoroughly bombed military equipments left by Russians and the Syrian army, including SAMs such as the S-300. as a result, IAF tankers were able to fly above Syria unchallenged, giving their jets easy access to Iranian airspace

 

[Aziqbal]

Iran needs J10CE

But not just the aircraft

They also need KJ-500 AWACS

And also a integrated air defence network for everything to work together properly

A fighter jet on its own will not serve anything

 

[ShapurII]

Iran needs J10CE

But not just the aircraft

They also need KJ-500 AWACS

And also a integrated air defence network for everything to work together properly

A fighter jet on its own will not serve anything

For the life of me, I never understood why Iran couldn't convert some of its heavy transport aircraft like Il-76 into AEW&C. We never tried to do that and it's weird in my opinion.

We even tried to convert our airplanes into maritime patrol, but we never tried to build airborne radar assets.

 

[Hack-Hook]

China will not sell the jets until sanctions are removed which they won´t be and China will protect their air defense industry from second sanctions.

Iran should first rather focus on removing the sanctions

which sanction?

 

[OldTwilight]

You still believe Zionist Russia will deliver them? Putin who says that "many Israelis speak Russian?"

doesn't matter, even we if purchase anything from China , we should not cancel the su 35 deal.

we should get those anyway, or else force Russian to payback the money alongside the interest fee . if we cancel the deal , Russians won't give back our money