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Israel doesn't have heavy bombers, but it has them. Heavy bombers are not Iranian. The Su-24 is still good enough today.
 
alireza said:
Navab hasn't been serviced out in mass enough. It is also more expensive. I was talking about a cheaper and easier options to install on ships like Sina FAC and others. Navab VLS is great but the roll out has been slow. The Zulfiqar Class Air Defense boat with 4 navab got shown once and no word about it since. Great product but no sign of it anywhere.
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roll out of everything is slow, this is Iran we are talking about
 
Persian Gulf said:
just because they are slow to react to military developments and dont use aircraft shelters during a war doesn't mean their planes can't be useful for us
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They're slow to react and learn and their military doctrine is still in the 80s. Not to get too off topic but their planes have poor radars and poor missiles, in exchange for what? Super maneuverability? Look at the next generation of fighters; all about flying fast, high, detecting your enemy 100s of km out and shooting them down without being detected, and the Su-35 can only do the first. Dogfighting is a thing of the past. They leave their bombers out in the open because they still think it's 1991 and their planes reflect their out of date doctrine. Look how slow they're adopting the Su-57 and frankly I doubt the Su-75 will even fly before 2030 with this war going on. What good did the S-300s Iran had to sue to get do? They all got taken out of service by drones. And people think Su-35 will be different? The only enemy they might have a chance against is IqAF F-16s and that's only because they lack AIM-120s.
 
alireza said:
do we still have su25? I know many were given back to Iraq. I haven't seen Iran fly any su25 in recent years or even mention them. I've seen no visual photo proof of them still in service either
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They gave them all away to Iraq and never got them back. Iran is so generous.
 
ShapurII said:
They came from the country that killed 300,000 Iranian soldiers and extensively used chemical weapons on our soldiers and civilians.
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well I would have kept them but they belonged to Iraq and what exactly do we want to do with 7 su-25s in 2025
 
Persian Gulf said:
They belonged to Iraq and what exactly do we want to do with 7 su-25s in 2025
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R&D, at least.
They belonged to Iraq? According to what law? Did Iraq pay us for keeping their Su-25s for them for like 10 years? Are we now providing hosting services for countries whose pilots run away?

Even if I had to set them on fire, I wouldn't have returned them to Iraq.
 
BigMela2onin said:
Correct but irrelevant. IRIAF/IRGCAF were not in a position to be giving away assets like that, and now with efforts to disarm the PMU, all those Toophans, T-72s, and Su-25s are going to be in a hostile states hands.
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If they disarm the PMU, they should return all of our assets. But as usual, we know that the IR is incompetent and that will never happen.
 
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9th Dey missile hitting Shahed drone
 
muhammed45 said:
They cannot hide their bombers according to a treaty signed with the US. Not even USA builds hangars for its strategic nuclear capable bombers.
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that is not true

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they don't always use the hangars during peace time but they have them.
 
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