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[muhammed45]

@Emirzad
Dude, instead of posting unrelated stuff, please try to be useful in Iranian section. Those who try to undermine Iranian products may go unnoticed with their rants.

There is no professionalism remaining on Iranian sub forum. People need to back to their senses and avoid posting garbage. Pro Iran propaganda does not essentially undermine Iranian armed forces but insulting and flamebaiting does and unfortunately all the Iranian origin member have been busy with posting 'undermine-Iran' stuff.

At least post military related stuff.

 

[Michael]

'The four new systems were unveiled at a ceremony to mark anniversary of establishment of Khatam al-Anbia Air Defense Base.

Negah air reconnaissance and object identification system, which marks the first of its type in West Asia, has been manufactured by capable scientists of the Iranian Base. The system, whose technology is available to only few countries in the world, is able to quickly obtain the most accurate information from passing flights and enhance quick identification of each flight’s route. It adds Iran to the list of few countries able to manufacture similar systems.

Negah is an essential system for controlling air traffic. Its production by Khatam al-Anbia Air Defense Base will alleviate the need to import advanced air traffic control systems used by Iran Civil Aviation Organization.'

Brig. Gen. Esmaili unveils new air navigation systems

TEHRAN, Aug. 28 (MNA) – Four new air navigation systems dubbed ‘Negah’, ‘Sami’, ‘Sama’ and 'Basir' were inaugurated Monday morning at presence of Khatam al-Anbia Air Defense Base commander.

en.mehrnews.com

No where its mentioned its based upon Chinese system. Iran mostly imports electrical components such as chips from Taiwan. Also from China and other sources. It might use Chinese components in its subsystems, does not mean its based upon a Chinese product. Even if it was, i still see no problem to use it in a civilian sector.

1. Civil aviation air traffic control systems and military air defense command systems overlap significantly on many levels. Air defense early warning radars and civil aviation command and control radars are also of the same type. ------ It's difficult to separate China's civil aviation air traffic control system from the air force.

2. The CTEC logo is clearly visible in the photos I posted in my previous post.

As for how Iran reports on it and how they interpret it, that's a matter for the Iranian people themselves.

North Korea commissioned a Chinese company to customize Arirang-branded smartphones. They then widely promote them domestically as advanced smartphones developed and produced independently.
The Chinese don't mind these things and have no intention of arguing. We just need to quietly do our own thing.

So let's end the discussion on this issue.

 

[muhammed45]

1. Civil aviation air traffic control systems and military air defense command systems overlap significantly on many levels. Air defense early warning radars and civil aviation command and control radars are also of the same type. ------ It's difficult to separate China's civil aviation air traffic control system from the air force.

2. The CTEC logo is clearly visible in the photos I posted in my previous post.

As for how Iran reports on it and how they interpret it, that's a matter for the Iranian people themselves.

North Korea commissioned a Chinese company to customize Arirang-branded smartphones. They then widely promote them domestically as advanced smartphones developed and produced independently.
The Chinese don't mind these things and have no intention of arguing. We just need to quietly do our own thing.

So let's end the discussion on this issue.

China in the military field is one of the leading countries and others will surely try to learn from them.

Btw, if you referred to that image, you need to know that its from Venezuela from 6 years ago. Here

Venezuela recibe radares chinos de largo alcance

...

www.infodefensa.com

https://avia-pro.net/news/venesuela-otkazalas-ot-radarov-rossiyskih-s-300

 

[Michael]

China in the military field is one of the leading countries and others will surely try to learn from them.

China's military system still requires a long period of development. It is still far from meeting our expectations.

Btw, if you referred to that image, you need to know that its from Venezuela from 6 years ago.

I'm sorry.

Until further verification, I think your link might be more reliable. Maybe our Iranian friends can identify them by the military uniforms in the photos.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Rohani was a scum, but a scum labelled as a great leader by many Iranians... Know I hope their eyes are more open !

That person prevented us from acquiring Chinese fighter jets and gained nothing from Europe in return

 

[ToddE]

@Emirzad
Dude, instead of posting unrelated stuff, please try to be useful in Iranian section. Those who try to undermine Iranian products may go unnoticed with their rants.

There is no professionalism remaining on Iranian sub forum. People need to back to their senses and avoid posting garbage. Pro Iran propaganda does not essentially undermine Iranian armed forces but insulting and flamebaiting does and unfortunately all the Iranian origin member have been busy with posting 'undermine-Iran' stuff.

At least post military related stuff.

Whats that ? you want to know more about corruption and failure projects in Iranian aviation sector, stretched over decades? Well, I am glad you brought that up. Here is a list:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

You want to live on delusions and deception, hiding corruption of IRI then be my guest but I wont .... I am an honest and a patriotic man.

 

[ToddE]

If Rouhani was blocking jet purchases then what did Raisi achieve after that? Right under his nose Kowsar project died even though he visited facilities. Did not the ayatollah notice a dysfunctional assembly line where engineers were pretending to be "working" on airframes? Why did not he asked for audits when only 5 airframes came out in 8 years ? why did not heads roll after production failure?

Also what did big mouth Traitornejad achieve before all of this under whom all cash grab projects were unveiled from Azarakhsh, Saegheh to Qaher Stunt. Right under his nose, Hasan Parvane of IAIO PSed an image of 50% rebuilt F-5E Azaraksh with mid fueselage wing and gave it to media to present it as "new fighter", Ahmadinejad administration promoted that guy instead and he later ended up pulling the Qaher stunt in front of Dehghan. When these frauds were playing around with national security in sky, IRGCAF was building hypersonic Fattah and Khyebar Shikan, clustered warhead PBV K-4, AShBMs etc. IRIAD was building datalinked OTHs, AESA trackers, TVCed HIMADS.

These doctored stories to spin the narrative around would not bring 1000 Iranians back who got crushed under the rubble just because IRIAF does not exist anymore to challenge enemy over Iraq. Rouhani, Raisi, Pezeshkian, Khamenei are just names, they all failed Iranians.

For those interested in Iranian aviation history, that Photoshopping IAIO fraud guy who gave the PSed image of Azarakhsh to Fars News not only went unpunished, instead he was promoted and praised for his fraud. Result ? He later pulled even bigger Qaher stunt. Thats what happens when we dont punish corruption, the corrupt fraudsters get enabled to do even bigger frauds. IRGCAF, IRIN, IRIAD etc never developed this fraud culture so they excelled while IRIAF regressed.

This was the fake image with PSed mid-fueslage wings and LEX, attempted to make a rebuilt F-5E with Chinese Avionics appear as "new fighter". Plane by 1990s standard when it was designed was not bad at all, it rivaled J-7E and was supposed to serve as AT/LIFT but corrupt officers started cashing it by calling it locally built F-18 equivalent to raise the budget for their own pockets. Result was total collapse of project with just 3 airframes that were later disassembled to be upgraded to Kowsar standard. Later Kowsar program hit the wall as well because price went well over 20 million per airframe for a F-5 driven advanced trainer, light fighter.

Real fighter image with standard F-5E wing configuration.

 

[ToddE]

During the 12 day war, Israeli media was peddling the false propaganda of establishing air-superiority over Iran 24/7 and many simpletons fell for it.

In total, 1 instance of an F-15 jettisoning its fuel tanks after being fired upon by Khordad-15 HIMAD, another instance of another F-15 engine sound in dark were total physical evidence of this "air-superiority". When real air superiority is established we usually get hundreds of images, videos of fighter jets operating in enemy sky like from Ukraine, Syria, Iraq wars .... Iran is highly populated and everyone has a phone, there was no Gag order by government either like Israel did on its citizens to not record IRGC missile hits inside Israel. Still except for these two instances, no evidence ever came out.

This image was peddled on social media by trolls as "SPICE bomb" strike as a proof of PGM being launched from inside Iranian airspace, but now it seems to be another Long range SOW/ALCM "Ice-Breaker" launched from Iraqi airspace. So while Iranian media was lying through its teeth over F-35 being tracked, Jews were busy creating their own false narratives.

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[Khorasan Black Flags]

Whats that ? you want to know more about corruption and failure projects in Iranian aviation sector, stretched over decades? Well, I am glad you brought that up. Here is a list:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

You want to live on delusions and deception, hiding corruption of IRI then be my guest but I wont .... I am an honest and a patriotic man.

Iran’s Rouhani cuts Quds Force budget, blocks missiles manufacturing funds

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has reportedly reduced the budget allocated to the Revolutionary Guards’ elite Quds Forces as well as that for the manufacture of missiles. A source in the office o…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

جزئیات بودجه 98| بودجه وزارت دفاع نصف شد - تسنیم

بر اساس لایحه پیشنهادی دولت برای بودجه سال 98، بودجه وزارت دفاع تقریبا 50 درصد کاهش پیدا کرده است.

www.tasnimnews.com

Farsnews | خنجر از پشت به بودجه دفاعی ایران در دهه ۹۰

در دهه نود، بودجه دفاعی ایران در میان تهدیدات امنیتی گسترده سقوط کرد، کاهشی بی‌سابقه که نیروهای مسلح را به فروش زمین‌هایش برای تأمین مالی موشک‌سازی واداشت اما توجیه دولت وقت همیشه یکسان بود: «پولی وجود ندارد.»

farsnews.ir

https://www.irna.ir/news/85446037/%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A2%D9%85%D8%AF-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5-%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C-%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA-%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C-%DB%B3%DB%B0-%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B5%D8%AF-%DA%A9%D9%85-%D8%B4%D8%AF-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA-%D8%B1%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%B3%DB%8C

 

[ToddE]

R-37M on SU-35S is repeat of AIM-54 on F-14A with which IRIAF went on to score 159 A2A kills on Baathist fighter jets of USSR and French origin.

IRIAF will just need to disrupt the IAF launching zones by attacking their refuelers and ALBM carriers over Iraq. Although I dont see a conflict happening again.

 

[Shafagh]

Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and the pig enjoys it.

That article is from 2021, and it states they were cuts to funds sent to foreign fighters, in order to pay for covid vaccines.

What was the point of sharing this?

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

That article is from 2021, and it states the funding cuts were for money sent to foreign fighters, in order to pay for covid vaccines.

What was the point of sharing this?

85% military budget cut by new elected Rouhani government in 2014:

Farsnews | خنجر از پشت به بودجه دفاعی ایران در دهه ۹۰

در دهه نود، بودجه دفاعی ایران در میان تهدیدات امنیتی گسترده سقوط کرد، کاهشی بی‌سابقه که نیروهای مسلح را به فروش زمین‌هایش برای تأمین مالی موشک‌سازی واداشت اما توجیه دولت وقت همیشه یکسان بود: «پولی وجود ندارد.»

farsnews.ir

Followed by another 50% military budget cut in 2018:

Farsnews | خنجر از پشت به بودجه دفاعی ایران در دهه ۹۰

در دهه نود، بودجه دفاعی ایران در میان تهدیدات امنیتی گسترده سقوط کرد، کاهشی بی‌سابقه که نیروهای مسلح را به فروش زمین‌هایش برای تأمین مالی موشک‌سازی واداشت اما توجیه دولت وقت همیشه یکسان بود: «پولی وجود ندارد.»

farsnews.ir

جزئیات بودجه 98| بودجه وزارت دفاع نصف شد - تسنیم

بر اساس لایحه پیشنهادی دولت برای بودجه سال 98، بودجه وزارت دفاع تقریبا 50 درصد کاهش پیدا کرده است.

www.tasnimnews.com

The Quds force budget military cut by Rouhani is for 2020 to decrease tensions with the kadkhoda (the US and it's allies) and this is one of the reasons of Fall of Syria by american backed salafi groups

 

[ToddE]

85% military budget cut by new elected Rouhani government in 2014:

Farsnews | خنجر از پشت به بودجه دفاعی ایران در دهه ۹۰

در دهه نود، بودجه دفاعی ایران در میان تهدیدات امنیتی گسترده سقوط کرد، کاهشی بی‌سابقه که نیروهای مسلح را به فروش زمین‌هایش برای تأمین مالی موشک‌سازی واداشت اما توجیه دولت وقت همیشه یکسان بود: «پولی وجود ندارد.»

farsnews.ir

Followed by another 50% military budget cut in 2018:

Farsnews | خنجر از پشت به بودجه دفاعی ایران در دهه ۹۰

در دهه نود، بودجه دفاعی ایران در میان تهدیدات امنیتی گسترده سقوط کرد، کاهشی بی‌سابقه که نیروهای مسلح را به فروش زمین‌هایش برای تأمین مالی موشک‌سازی واداشت اما توجیه دولت وقت همیشه یکسان بود: «پولی وجود ندارد.»

farsnews.ir

جزئیات بودجه 98| بودجه وزارت دفاع نصف شد - تسنیم

بر اساس لایحه پیشنهادی دولت برای بودجه سال 98، بودجه وزارت دفاع تقریبا 50 درصد کاهش پیدا کرده است.

www.tasnimnews.com

The Quds force budget military cut by Rouhani is for 2020 to decrease tensions with the kadkhoda (the US and it's allies)

Most of these these lower intellect cultists are trying to build the narrative these days that Rouhani destroyed IRIAF so that Khamanei's secret arm of refomists can be blamed just like in nuclear deals and he himself and MODAFL's corrupt most dinosaurs can escape responsibility.

Truth is most of the failure projects happened during Ahamdainejad era e.g. Azarakhsh, Saegheh, Tzarave AT, Qaher stunt, F-14AM and F-4E/D Dowran program collapse etc. Raisi era was even bigger disaster because he was fooled by HESA through his visits on dysfunctional assembly lines of Kowsar yet no accountability happened for delays and eventual death of project occured. Yasin AT crash and death of project also happened during Raisi era. Whose fault is 25 years of delay/failure for IRAN-140/Simorgh ? Rouhani and Zarif ? lol

Rouhani, Ahmadinejad, Raisi, Pezeshkian, Khatami all are same idiots of a dysfunctional system. All destroyed IRIAF, blood of 1000 Iranians is on their hands. Like I always say, IRGCAF gave these bozos face saving because of their reciporcating unstoppable missile strike after strike but it wont always happen. Enemy is building capabilities, these people are still pulling stunts for domestic consumption showing rebuilt Iran-140 as "new SImorgh" carrier.

 

[Musings]

@Soldiers_of_Islam
This is my last warning. You post offensive crap about pigs etc and when someone retaliates - you report and scream murder.
Enough - stop wasting our time - next time you do this - you will be removed.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

@Emirzad
Dude, instead of posting unrelated stuff, please try to be useful in Iranian section. Those who try to undermine Iranian products may go unnoticed with their rants.

There is no professionalism remaining on Iranian sub forum. People need to back to their senses and avoid posting garbage. Pro Iran propaganda does not essentially undermine Iranian armed forces but insulting and flamebaiting does and unfortunately all the Iranian origin member have been busy with posting 'undermine-Iran' stuff.

At least post military related stuff.

You're absolutely right because Emirzad spreads a lot of misleading propaganda without providing any evidence. Look at Kowsar; his figure of 5 cells comes from an outdated Wikipedia page. He's just trying to confuse people here. Imagine if he said the drone manufacturing industry has ground to a halt because he hasn't seen a new drone himself—it's ridiculous.

Wikipedia science has its limits.

Yes, unfortunately, this forum has lost many valuable members.