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The R-37M lets Iran threaten AWACS and tankers 300 km away for the first time, forcing the IAF to stand back and shortening its striking radius. Yet the missile needs the launch aircraft to keep illuminating the target, and Tehran has no AEW platform or secure datalink, so lock is easily broken; deterrence outweighs real kill probability. Its gap is "seeing far and holding the gaze"—unmanned AEW and strike UAVs are what Iran truly needs.
 
You're absolutely right because Emirzad spreads a lot of misleading propaganda without providing any evidence. Look at Kowsar; his figure of 5 cells comes from an outdated Wikipedia page. He's just trying to confuse people here. Imagine if he said the drone manufacturing industry has ground to a halt because he hasn't seen a new drone himself—it's ridiculous.

Wikipedia science has its limits.

Yes, unfortunately, this forum has lost many valuable members.
Does anyone here have a source that mentions an accurate number of how many Kowsar have been built? Mass production was announced back in 2018. We should have at the very least least; a few dozen in service.
 
R-37M on SU-35S is repeat of AIM-54 on F-14A with which IRIAF went on to score 159 A2A kills on Baathist fighter jets of USSR and French origin.

IRIAF will just need to disrupt the IAF launching zones by attacking their refuelers and ALBM carriers over Iraq. Although I dont see a conflict happening again.
No, during the Iran Iraq War the IRIAF had a massive technological advantage over the Iraqis the F-4s and F-14s were vastly superior to the Iraqi Mig 21s 23s and 25s nowadays I don't see the SU-35s or the R-37M changing the balance of power much especially since Iran lacks AEW platforms that can utilize the R-37Ms to its maximum.
 
Whats that 👂? you want to know more about corruption and failure projects in Iranian aviation sector, stretched over decades? Well, I am glad you brought that up. Here is a list:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

You want to live on delusions and deception, hiding corruption of IRI then be my guest but I wont .... I am an honest and a patriotic man.
Well i don't disagree that IRIAF is facing multiple challenges. They have failed projects like many other countries and airforces. Without Shah bribing Grumman, there would have been no F-14 for example since the Grumman company was close to dismantling the project for lack of fund. Iran doesn't face technological hurdles at this moment, its mostly about the financial issues.

And its because of the basis that IRIAF is built upon. IRIAF has Shah's legacy, an importer of high tech items not an innovative and self sufficient branch of armed forces. Too bureaucratic and too heavy to be held on its own feet.

IRIAF must experience a change from its roots to the top. Problem with IRIAF is bigger than thought.

The budget that IRIAF wastes could be used to produce a new platform.

Remember, IRGC's missile program was started with a bunch of amateur commanders that eventually successfully produced hypersonic missiles and kept themselves on par with countries like Russia.

Shah's corruption has spread into IRIAF. Self reliance is not defined in their doctrine.
 
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India is a joke. They barely had the upper hand over Pakistan. The Air Force was embarrassed. The Saudis are just paying extortion money. Just as the UAE, the arms it purchases are sent to other hotspots around the world. The likeley receipiants are Israel and Ukraine.
 
India is a joke. They barely had the upper hand over Pakistan. The Air Force was embarrassed. The Saudis are just paying extortion money. Just as the UAE, the arms it purchases are sent to other hotspots around the world. The likeley receipiants are Israel and Ukraine.
Such a bastard........ reformist scum.
 
Whats that 👂? you want to know more about corruption and failure projects in Iranian aviation sector, stretched over decades? Well, I am glad you brought that up. Here is a list:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

You want to live on delusions and deception, hiding corruption of IRI then be my guest but I wont .... I am an honest and a patriotic man.
Thank you for posting.

Words fail me except 'shocking'

Piet
 
Well i don't disagree that IRIAF is facing multiple challenges.

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They have failed projects like many other countries and airforces.

Please provide list of failure projects of same scale by comparable countries to IRI. I will give a list ... Turkey, Israel, Pakistan, Indonesia, Korea, Sweden, Taiwan, KSA, India, Egypt .... For reference the IRI failures in aviation sector is written here:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

Without Shah bribing Grumman, there would have been no F-14 for example since the Grumman company was close to dismantling the project for lack of fund.

And the same Shahi imported F-14A in IIAF/IRIAF later went on to kill 159 enemy jets in air, saving hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives. His US trained cadre of flying assassins became ace of aces .... do you even know this Iranian history? Are you telling me that Shah built deterrence of Iranian nation that later saved Iranian lives after his death, was somehow his fault ? what stopped Mullahs building this deterrence ?

Iran doesn't face technological hurdles at this moment, its mostly about the financial issues.

Worlds second largest proven HC reserve holder (27 Trillion USD, more than China) is facing financial reserves? I wonder how did that happen? 48 years back it was world 14th largest economy, top 10, if EU countries are listed under EU umbrella.

And its because of the basis that IRIAF is built upon. IRIAF has Shah's legacy, an importer of high tech items not an innovative and self sufficient branch of armed forces.

More lies, Shah signed TOT of F-17/F-18 into Iran, he was bringing CKD/Assembly of F-16A/B into Iran (140+160). The same F-5 that Mullahs cant mass produce in 2025 (3 Azaraksh, 6 Saegheh, 5 kowsars in 30 years) were going to be retired as "obsolete" in 1980s by Iran. IAIO was being expanded to build 4th gen fighters in 1980s. See when you try to deceive people in todays modern age of open information, I am fool no one except yourself.

Too bureaucratic and too heavy to be held on its own feet.

What does this mean? few dozen FMC obsolete fighters left with "fasting" and "praying" pilots, commanded by "Hejab sermons" unfit Chief is what is left of IRIAF.

IRIAF must experience a change from its roots to the top. Problem with IRIAF is bigger than thought.

Regime controlled MODAFL gives funds to IAIO/HESA to build prototypes that IRIAF refuses to purchase. Atleast IRIAF is still resisting regime officials corruption. They want actual fighters that are built in actual fighter jet producers like Russia, China, US. Why are you blaming them for going for actual fighters instead of meaningless local cash grab projects?

The budget that IRIAF wastes could be used to produce a new platform.

IRIAF wastes nothing, they instead resist corruption of IRI officials. When ahmadinejad was smiling at cardboard Qaher built by same IAIO fraud who previously pulled Azaraksh Photoshop, was it IRIAFs fault? When Raisi got fooled by HESA into showing him dysfunctional assembly lines of Kowsar, why did not he immediately summon its head along with defence minister and conducted an audit? how is it IRIAF fault? Raisi, Ahamdinehjad, Rouhani, Pezeshkian are all frauds. IRIAF atleast was still flying during the war with their obsolete few dozen airframes, they even fooled Israelis in bombing numbers of wooden decoys wasting PGMs ...

and btw here is the list of your "new platforms" tried over 30 years since Sattaris death (last serious commander of IRIAF), all failed to be mass produced:

Kowsar
Saegheh
Azarakhsh
Yasin AT
Tazarve AT
IrAN-140/SImorgh

what became of them?

Remember, IRGC's missile program was started with a bunch of amateur commanders that eventually successfully produced hypersonic missiles and kept themselves on par with countries like Russia.

IRIAF's annual budget is 200-400 million USD. IRGC's budget is ~4-6 Billion USD. If same ratio is applied to new figure that Khamenei said ... IRGC will end up with a whooping budget of ~15 Billion USD while IRIAF will still be barely touching 1 billion USD.

Shah's corruption has spread into IRIAF. Self reliance is not defined in their doctrine.

Shah's "corruption" like hundreds of F-14A, F-4E/D that saved hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives by beating the shat out of Baathists in skies? Do you lack common sense ?
 
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You're absolutely right because Emirzad spreads a lot of misleading propaganda without providing any evidence. Look at Kowsar; his figure of 5 cells comes from an outdated Wikipedia page. He's just trying to confuse people here. Imagine if he said the drone manufacturing industry has ground to a halt because he hasn't seen a new drone himself—it's ridiculous.

Wikipedia science has its limits.

Yes, unfortunately, this forum has lost many valuable members.

We are still waiting for your "AI controlled Kowsars" and "F-4SM" with new "cell". You clowns damage Iran more with your nonsense than you even realize.

Does anyone here have a source that mentions an accurate number of how many Kowsar have been built? Mass production was announced back in 2018. We should have at the very least least; a few dozen in service.

3 serials exist including the one initial prototype (3-7400) that Rouhani sat in during unveiling, another was later inducted but we have no visual proof. Another was seen in primer outside HESA on sat images. Was it inducted or not is not reported. Thats about it. 3+2 confirmations. Mind you IRIAF is one of the most camera friendly AFs on earth, we get regular videos and pics from inside bases, hangars etc so its impossible to hide operationalized planes unless we are to assume that secret squadrons are being inducted and are being buried under ground Saddam style. IRIAF is quite about YAK-130 yet those who follow reported 18 airframes already based upon visual evidence.

In one frame during Raisi's visit years back, 18-24 airframes were seen on assembly line but there was no evidence of them being truly worked upon as usual fighter assembly show counts of engineer stations, buckets of tools, wires hanging around, people walking on floor. This "assembly" line showed none of that, just primered fueselages.

Remember this was a light CAP at best with BVR and Look Down shootdown capability, Datalinked with UCAVs ... because of flight efficiency it can chase LACMs, Drones, provide BVR/EW naval aircover in Persian Gulf to cover for large IRIN/IRGCN fleet. More importantly it would have trained a new crop of pilots had 100-120 been built etc but for ~22-25 Million USD an airframe, seems like they rather went for YAK-130. 30 YAK-130 for Training and 60 YAK-130M (combat version) will cover up the immediate need for CAS/within IADS CAP/Advanced Training. Incoming SU-35S and MIG-29SMT/M upgrade can take up the battle job for now. Still not lots but will save Iranian lives in next war.
 
Force is dead not facing "chellanjees". Stop deluding yourself because no one else is believing the regimes lies except their low IQ cultists. 1000 Iranians died because IRI killed IRIAF and Jews kept on lobbing missiles from Iraqi airspace, Shah built IIAF rebranded as IRIAF did not allow that in 1980s.



Please provide list of failure projects of same scale by comparable countries to IRI. I will give a list ... Turkey, Israel, Pakistan, Indonesia, Korea, Sweden, Taiwan, KSA, India, Egypt .... For reference the IRI failures in aviation sector is written here:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF



And the same Shahi imported F-14A in IIAF/IRIAF later went on to kill 159 enemy jets in air, saving hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives. His US trained cadre of flying assassins became ace of aces .... do you even know this Iranian history? Are you telling me that Shah built deterrence of Iranian nation that later saved Iranian lives after his death, was somehow his fault ? what stopped Mullahs building this deterrence ?



Worlds second largest proven HC reserve holder (27 Trillion USD, more than China) is facing financial reserves? I wonder how did that happen? 48 years back it was world 14th largest economy, top 10, if EU countries are listed under EU umbrella.



More lies, Shah signed TOT of F-17/F-18 into Iran, he was bringing CKD/Assembly of F-16A/B into Iran (140+160). The same F-5 that Mullahs cant mass produce in 2025 (3 Azaraksh, 6 Saegheh, 5 kowsars in 30 years) were going to be retired as "obsolete" in 1980s by Iran. IAIO was being expanded to build 4th gen fighters in 1980s. See when you try to deceive people in todays modern age of open information, I am fool no one except yourself.



What does this mean? few dozen FMC obsolete fighters left with "fasting" and "praying" pilots, commanded by "Hejab sermons" unfit Chief is what is left of IRIAF.



Regime controlled MODAFL gives funds to IAIO/HESA to build prototypes that IRIAF refuses to purchase. Atleast IRIAF is still resisting regime officials corruption. They want actual fighters that are built in actual fighter jet producers like Russia, China, US. Why are you blaming them for going for actual fighters instead of meaningless local cash grab projects?



IRIAF wastes nothing, they instead resist corruption of IRI officials. When ahmadinejad was smiling at cardboard Qaher built by same IAIO fraud who previously pulled Azaraksh Photoshop, was it IRIAFs fault? When Raisi got fooled by HESA into showing him dysfunctional assembly lines of Kowsar, why did not he immediately summon its head along with defence minister and conducted an audit? how is it IRIAF fault? Raisi, Ahamdinehjad, Rouhani, Pezeshkian are all frauds. IRIAF atleast was still flying during the war with their obsolete few dozen airframes, they even fooled Israelis in bombing numbers of wooden decoys wasting PGMs ...

and btw here is the list of your "new platforms" tried over 30 years since Sattaris death (last serious commander of IRIAF), all failed to be mass produced:

Kowsar
Saegheh
Azarakhsh
Yasin AT
Tazarve AT
IrAN-140/SImorgh

what became of them?



IRIAF's annual budget is 200-400 million USD. IRGC's budget is ~4-6 Billion USD. If same ratio is applied to new figure that Khamenei said ... IRGC will end up with a whooping budget of ~15 Billion USD while IRIAF will still be barely touching 1 billion USD.



Shah's "corruption" like hundreds of F-14A, F-4E/D that saved hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives by beating the shat out of Baathists in skies? Do you lack common sense ?
Instead of writing a long list of garbage, answer one question. What domestic plans did Shah have for Iranian (non-existent) aviation industry?
 
Instead of writing a long list of garbage, answer one question.

Thanks for failing to answer a single question, I raised above (11 in total) and taking the easy route of name calling. Low intellect khamenei cultists short circuit into flames whenever countered with facts n logic and resort to oneliners. 1000 Iranians dead because IRI killed IRIAF through incompetence, rampant corruption, false accomplishments spread across 30 years since Sattari's death.

Stick to Qaher RC plastic+cardboard "stealth" toy brought to you by ahmadinejad, for whose fraud victory 100 Iranians had to die inside Iran on Khamenei's orders.

What domestic plans did Shah have for Iranian (non-existent) aviation industry?

Whats that 👂? you want to know more about FAILURE OF IRI including rampant corruption and fake quick cash grab projects stretched over 40 years? and Compare them with Success of Shahi Aviation sector ... Well, I am glad you brought that up. Here is a list:

Imperial Irans Aviation Sector Success:

- Brought 80 most advanced fighter of its time, F-14A + worlds first LRBVR AIM-54 into Iran with Depot level Maintance and Overhauling facilities, Pilots trained in US, later became Ace of Aces, it saved hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives. F-14A in 1970s is F-22 of its time. What did IRI brought to defend Iranians ?

- Brought 200+ F-4E/D with domestic infrastructure for maintaince, they later made records of worlds longest ranged jet strike.

- Signed TOT of local manufacturing F-17/F-18 into Iran, HESA was supposed to built them but Islamo-Marxist revlution happened. IRI could not produce more than 10 F-5 in 30 years. At that time, not even Israel could get TOT of 4th gen fighter from US.

- Signed CKD/Assembly of F-16A/B into Iran (140+160). Birjand AB was being built to recieve first squadron to counter USSR threat in North east but Islamo-Marxist revlution happened and now Birjand (still incomplete) has 3 x F-5 armed with dumb bombs.

- Brought 200+ Sea Cobras to Iran with domestic CKD assembly inside IAIO, they later destroyed Baathist armour. IRI now rebuilds/upgrades them and brands them as "new" local since real local heli project Shahed 285 died after 2 prototypes.

Islamic Republic's Failures in Avation sector

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years. Probably even less are flyable now.

F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.

MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR. Rajsanjani was fooled by Yeltsin into purchasing the dumbest type of Fulcrum available.

SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs

SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+, 2 crashes within an year

F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron. Despite being pitted as "attack" sharks of Iran, played zero role in combat during wars.

Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years. Prop airframes on dysfunctional assembly lines showed to ministers and presidents for almost a decade.

Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years. Reported bad aerodynamics.

Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, Photoshooped pics peddled to media to show a "new fighter"

Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran. They just cant stop this BS, with carrier stunt being latest, thinking they are fooling anyone inside or outside Iran.

Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed. IRIAF instead if buying numbers of YAK-130.

Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes

Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempts to use it with manpads and WVR missiles. Played ZERO role of intercepting drones, cruise missiles in war.

Kaman-22 UCAV never got built for IRIAF

Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF

IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed. One prop protoype rebuilt with C-130 like rear is the latest "prototype" in 30 years of attempts to produce a small cargo plane.

Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them

Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested

Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J

Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF

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Please provide list of failure projects of same scale by comparable countries to IRI. I will give a list ... Turkey, Israel, Pakistan, Indonesia, Korea, Sweden, Taiwan, KSA, India, Egypt .... For reference the IRI failures in aviation sector is written here:

44 FMC airframes of F-14 reduced to 12 within 10 years.
F-14AM Upgradation program abandoned after 2 airframes in 10 years.
MIG-29 upgrdation halted, still flies with MIG-23ML avionics + SARH BVR
SU-24MK upgradation halted, still cant fire LR-ALCMs
SU-22M3/M4 upgradation halted after 10 airframes despite having 40+
F-4E/D Dowran upgradation halted after single squadron.
Kowsar Light fighter yielded 5 airframes in 8 years.
Saegheh Light fighter abandoned after 6 airframes over 12 years
Azarakhsh Light fighter abandoned after 3 airframes, PSed pics peddled
Qaher propaganda RC stunts brought national shame to Iran
Yasin AT yielded 2 airframes over 6 years and 1 got crashed
Tazarve AT abandoned after crashes
Karrar interceptor never progressed to larger wingmen despite attempt
Kaman-22 UCAV never got built in higher numbers for IRIAF
Low RCS Stealth Flying wings were never produced/purchased by IRIAF
IrAN-140/HESA SImorgh Maritime Petrol/AWACS project never progressed.
Fakour-90 LRBVR bundled up after 100 missiles, 2 x F-14AM for them
Maghsoud LRBVR never got tested
Azarakhsh WVR HOBS never purchased, IRIAF uses non-all-aspect AIM9J
Arash Light BVR never built, there is no ARH BVR missile in IRIAF for 80% IRIAF



And the same Shahi imported F-14A in IIAF/IRIAF later went on to kill 159 enemy jets in air, saving hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives. His US trained cadre of flying assassins became ace of aces .... do you even know this Iranian history? Are you telling me that Shah built deterrence of Iranian nation that later saved Iranian lives after his death, was somehow his fault ? what stopped Mullahs building this deterrence ?



Worlds second largest proven HC reserve holder (27 Trillion USD, more than China) is facing financial reserves? I wonder how did that happen? 48 years back it was world 14th largest economy, top 10, if EU countries are listed under EU umbrella.



More lies, Shah signed TOT of F-17/F-18 into Iran, he was bringing CKD/Assembly of F-16A/B into Iran (140+160). The same F-5 that Mullahs cant mass produce in 2025 (3 Azaraksh, 6 Saegheh, 5 kowsars in 30 years) were going to be retired as "obsolete" in 1980s by Iran. IAIO was being expanded to build 4th gen fighters in 1980s. See when you try to deceive people in todays modern age of open information, I am fool no one except yourself.



What does this mean? few dozen FMC obsolete fighters left with "fasting" and "praying" pilots, commanded by "Hejab sermons" unfit Chief is what is left of IRIAF.



Regime controlled MODAFL gives funds to IAIO/HESA to build prototypes that IRIAF refuses to purchase. Atleast IRIAF is still resisting regime officials corruption. They want actual fighters that are built in actual fighter jet producers like Russia, China, US. Why are you blaming them for going for actual fighters instead of meaningless local cash grab projects?



IRIAF wastes nothing, they instead resist corruption of IRI officials. When ahmadinejad was smiling at cardboard Qaher built by same IAIO fraud who previously pulled Azaraksh Photoshop, was it IRIAFs fault? When Raisi got fooled by HESA into showing him dysfunctional assembly lines of Kowsar, why did not he immediately summon its head along with defence minister and conducted an audit? how is it IRIAF fault? Raisi, Ahamdinehjad, Rouhani, Pezeshkian are all frauds. IRIAF atleast was still flying during the war with their obsolete few dozen airframes, they even fooled Israelis in bombing numbers of wooden decoys wasting PGMs ...

and btw here is the list of your "new platforms" tried over 30 years since Sattaris death (last serious commander of IRIAF), all failed to be mass produced:

Kowsar
Saegheh
Azarakhsh
Yasin AT
Tazarve AT
IrAN-140/SImorgh

what became of them?



IRIAF's annual budget is 200-400 million USD. IRGC's budget is ~4-6 Billion USD. If same ratio is applied to new figure that Khamenei said ... IRGC will end up with a whooping budget of ~15 Billion USD while IRIAF will still be barely touching 1 billion USD.



Shah's "corruption" like hundreds of F-14A, F-4E/D that saved hundreds and thousands of Iranian lives by beating the shat out of Baathists in skies? Do you lack common sense ?
Stop making shit up!
 
That person prevented us from acquiring Chinese fighter jets and gained nothing from Europe in return
Zero evident on that and j10a met none of Iran needs at best it would have become another j7 and become another source for distrusting China equipment
 

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