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[Hack-Hook]

The Imperial Air Force had about 80 F-14s, 225 F-4s, and 166 F-5s. The Shah even had a backorder plan for 100–150 F-15s that was never delivered because of the 1979 revolution.

The not delivered order was for 160 F-16 and 81 F-14

Iran didn't book any order for F-15

 

[Hack-Hook]

J10A is not produces anymore. If any J10A arrives would be second handed.

In 2015 they still were produced

 

[mangekyo]

The not delivered order was for 160 F-16 and 81 F-14

Iran didn't book any order for F-15

You’re right. It was 160 F-16 with an option for 140 more. But I recall reading he was going to order F15s too

 

[ShapurII]

J10A is not produces anymore. If any J10A arrives would be second handed.

He's talking about 2015.

 

[ShapurII]

You’re right. It was 160 F-16 with an option for 140 more. But I recall reading he was going to order F15s too

They pitched both F-14 and F-15 for air superiority to Iran and the Shah went with F-14.
The Shah also had placed orders for 2 aircraft carriers that were to be delivered in mid 80s, which makes the choosing of F-14 a rational decision.

 

[mangekyo]

They pitched both F-14 and F-15 for air superiority to Iran and the Shah went with F-14.
The Shah also had placed orders for 2 aircraft carriers that were to be delivered in mid 80s, which makes the choice of F-14 reasonable.

Yes. But he also considered buying F15s to compliment the F14s. And lol at the aircraft carrier. I wonder what IRI would have used it for.

 

[Hack-Hook]

They pitched both F-14 and F-15 for air superiority to Iran and the Shah went with F-14.
The Shah also had placed orders for 2 aircraft carriers that were to be delivered in mid 80s, which makes the choosing of F-14 a rational decision.

I believe at the time Shah was thinking more about Russian mig-25 that make the combo of f14 and foenix a logical choice
Non of f14 ordered by Iran have equipment for landing on aircraft carrier .

 

[Michael]

He's talking about 2015.

In the early days, there were indeed rumors that CATIC had marketed the J-10A (export code FC-20) to Iran and Pakistan. But in the end, neither Iran nor Pakistan bought it. The J-10A was discontinued in 2014.

At present, the PLAAF's procurement of J-10C is saturated. CAC no longer produces J-10C. The production line only produces J-10CE.

There are rumors that if there are no large orders for J-10CE in the next two years, CAC may completely shut down the J-10 full series production line in 2028 and completely terminate the project. ------ The J-10CE production line in Guizhou also belongs to CAC.

CAC currently has no interest in the J-10 series fighters, and terminating the project is in line with CAC's development strategy.
We do not rule out that the J-10CE production line may be sold as a package.

 

[Fatman17]

The not delivered order was for 160 F-16 and 81 F-14

Iran didn't book any order for F-15

And ironically the F-16s were delivered to Israel. Iran probably got 24 of the 81 F-14s

 

[Fatman17]

In the early days, there were indeed rumors that CATIC had marketed the J-10A (export code FC-20) to Iran and Pakistan. But in the end, neither Iran nor Pakistan bought it. The J-10A was discontinued in 2014.

At present, the PLAAF's procurement of J-10C is saturated. CAC no longer produces J-10C. The production line only produces J-10CE.

There are rumors that if there are no large orders for J-10CE in the next two years, CAC may completely shut down the J-10 full series production line in 2028 and completely terminate the project. ------ The J-10CE production line in Guizhou also belongs to CAC.

CAC currently has no interest in the J-10 series fighters, and terminating the project is in line with CAC's development strategy.
We do not rule out that the J-10CE production line may be sold as a package.

Most likely not. Pakistan Egypt lran and 3-4 other countries are seriously interested in the J-10CE. Pakistan plans atleast 80 examples.

 

[Fatman17]

The biggest question for the IRIAF is how it is going to reorganise itself going forward to be capable and credible airforce?

 

[Hack-Hook]

And ironically the F-16s were delivered to Israel. Iran probably got 24 of the 81 F-14s

Iran ordered 80 f14 and then another 80 from the first bach Iran received 79.
Delivery of the rest of F14 and 160 f16 hit the revolution.
After that some short sighted people in Iran cancelled f16 deals and kidd class boats and80 remaining F14.

The spare equipment for f16 we have received before the delivery of actual f16s later during the war exchanged with Pakistan by some other weapons

 

[Michael]

Most likely not. Pakistan Egypt lran and 3-4 other countries are seriously interested in the J-10CE. Pakistan plans atleast 80 examples.

“Interested” ≠ “Actual Purchase”

For enterprises, what they need is real orders, not "interest" in the form of publicity. If many customers are just watching and not actually buying, there is no need for them to continue waiting. ------ Waiting means that the production line is idle.

The best decision for CAC is to resolve the J-10 issue as soon as possible and then focus on the development and production of higher-level fighter jets.

BTW. I don't think Pakistan can afford to buy 80 J-10CE.

 

[Fatman17]

“Interested” ≠ “Actual Purchase”

For enterprises, what they need is real orders, not "interest" in the form of publicity. If many customers are just watching and not actually buying, there is no need for them to continue waiting. ------ Waiting means that the production line is idle.

The best decision for CAC is to resolve the J-10 issue as soon as possible and then focus on the development and production of higher-level fighter jets.

BTW. I don't think Pakistan can afford to buy 80 J-10CE.

Matter of time. 20 delivered. 20 on order. 50% .

J-10CE in production S.No. 205 and 206. Don't underestimate the PAF

 

[Ali_Baba]

The biggest question for the IRIAF is how it is going to reorganise itself going forward to be capable and credible airforce?

Iran needs to sort out its internal politics first so that there is only "one" airforce and not two, which is presently split between the IRFC-AF and the Iranian Airforce. This duplication itself costs money and makes no logical sense. Collapse one into the other so that there is a single unified command and force for aerial defence. Then work on making that the best it can be.

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