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[Immortals]

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This guy bitches more than us.

 

[OldTwilight]

As I guessed , Russians just waited so EU use snap-back and bring back UNSC sanctions so they use it to not deliver anything useful ...
I.R was simply played by others ....

اگه ادارات دولتی ایران یا شرکت های خصولتی ایران رفته باشید ، خیلی زود می فهمید توی پائین ترین سطح انسان های بهتر ولی به شدت بی انگیزه ای وجود دارند که زیر سایه مدیران و کارشناسان مسئول هستند.

ولی اصل بر اساس خایه مالی و باندبازی هست...

همین قضیه تا بالاترین سطح جمهوری اسلامی می ره .

 

[kastor ville]

As I guessed , Russians just waited so EU use snap-back and bring back UNSC sanctions so they use it to not deliver anything useful ...
I.R was simply played by others ....

اگه ادارات دولتی ایران یا شرکت های خصولتی ایران رفته باشید ، خیلی زود می فهمید توی پائین ترین سطح انسان های بهتر ولی به شدت بی انگیزه ای وجود دارند که زیر سایه مدیران و کارشناسان مسئول هستند.

ولی اصل بر اساس خایه مالی و باندبازی هست...

همین قضیه تا بالاترین سطح جمهوری اسلامی می ره .

Russians are the least trust worthy people in the whole region...never, ever be hokden to them, they will use you and then sell you out.

 

[Shafagh]

Can you at least get the Mig 29s upgraded to SMT standard, and maybe acquire a dozen more.

A fleet of 40 Mig 29SMT with Zhuk ME radar, would give Iran at least one modern platform.

I imagine this would be the fastest option to acquire.

 

[Kyussis]

Can you at least get the Mig 29s upgraded to SMT standard, and maybe acquire a dozen more.

A fleet of 40 Mig 29SMT with Zhuk ME radar, would give Iran at least one modern platform.

I imagine this would be the fastest option to acquire.

It is a real shame that Iran's fleet of MiG-29 9.12s where not upgraded with the same avionics package of the Kowsar or the upgraded F-4s.

 

[Comandante]

It's sad that there are people who still stick with the MIG29. Forget about that platform, it's a dead, crappy thing. Suggestions like this and similar ones are frivolous. Its shipbuilding could perhaps be used in the case of the F5, but it's completely useless in everything else.

 

[Shafagh]

It is a real shame that Iran's fleet of MiG-29 9.12s where not upgraded with the same avionics package of the Kowsar or the upgraded F-4s.

Yes, they should have. What's stopping them? It makes more sense to put that avionics package in a more modern airframe.

 

[Immortals]

It is a real shame that Iran's fleet of MiG-29 9.12s where not upgraded with the same avionics package of the Kowsar or the upgraded F-4s.

Yeah, those Kowsar and F-4’s did such a great job in the war! Even the F-14AMs! They were fantastic!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yeah, those Kowsar and F-4’s did such a great job in the war! Even the F-14AMs! They were fantastic!

it is weird that these jets had no role

I don't expect them to challenge Israeli jets (although they could have done that, some of the Israeli jets were not even carrying AAMs), but they can at least hunt drones and interfere with Israeli attacks

great you hid the jets in an underground base and preserved them. but for what? to preserve them in the next war too? better to use and lose half of them while disturbing the enemy's plans than to not use them at all

 

[Immortals]

it is weird that these jets had no role

I don't expect them to challenge Israeli jets (although they could have done that, some of the Israeli jets were not even carrying AAMs), but they can at least hunt drones and interfere with Israeli attacks

great you hid the jets in an underground base and preserved them. but for what? to preserve them in the next war too? better to use and lose half of them while disturbing the enemy's plans than to not use them at all

There were some videos of Iranian jets doing patrols. But who knows maybe this government didn’t trust airforce pilots also being in the air at the same time as the air defense force targeting things. Friendly fire.

I thought there were some videos of F-5/F-4’s being destroyed near the runway for fast intercept. Most F-14’s were mothballed versions. But I thought they hit at least 1 operating one.

But again we don’t know what they hit or didn’t since Iran hasn’t been forthcoming about the full extent of the damages.

 

[Persian Gulf]

There were some videos of Iranian jets doing patrols. But who knows maybe this government didn’t trust airforce pilots also being in the air at the same time as the air defense force targeting things. Friendly fire.

I thought there were some videos of F-5/F-4’s being destroyed near the runway for fast intercept. Most F-14’s were mothballed versions. But I thought they hit at least 1 operating one.

But again we don’t know what they hit or didn’t since Iran hasn’t been forthcoming about the full extent of the damages.

friend or foe systems should be able to navigate that. presumably you can distinguish between a f-14 and a f-35

Israel showed footage of them hitting 5 F-14s in total. 2 of them were known to be inactive and used for spare parts, but the others were likely active. but hitting 5 F-14s on the ground doesn't explain what happened to the rest of them and the mig-29s etc

did we see Iranian jets doing patrols during the war? there was one drone seen over Tehran which people debated whether it was a Shaheed-129 or an Israeli drone, but I don't regularly seeing Iranian jets in the skies

if they managed to shoot down drones with jets they would probably have boasted about it

 

[Immortals]

friend or foe systems should be able to navigate that. presumably you can distinguish between a f-14 and a f-35

We don’t knew what type of EW/ECW iran was under and Israel is one of the best in the war. America was also likely helping as they can claim plausible deniability (same way IRGC ships help Houthi’s target western ships).

Israel showed footage of them hitting 5 F-14s in total. 2 of them were known to be inactive and used for spare parts, but the others were likely active. but hitting 5 F-14s on the ground doesn't explain what happened to the rest of them and the mig-29s etc

Yes, and all F-14’s were out in the open even active ones, which means that at least in some capacity Iran was running sorties.

did we see Iranian jets doing patrols during the war?

There were at least a few separate videos of them flying low over Tehran likely to find drones or identify munitions.

But the only thing was strange. No mention of air forces role in the war. It’s almost like there was a coupe attempt/revolt happening simultaneously and Iran is keeping it under wraps.

Just very odd how little information has come out from both sides about what really went down inside Iran those 12 days. And 2 months after the war not much has leaked out.

 

[Shafagh]

It's sad that there are people who still stick with the MIG29. Forget about that platform, it's a dead, crappy thing. Suggestions like this and similar ones are frivolous. Its shipbuilding could perhaps be used in the case of the F5, but it's completely useless in everything else.

F5 airframe is small. It would have been great if it could carry Fakhour.

 

[Shafagh]

Is it feasible to work with F5 airframe as the groundwork for a stealthy/semi-stealth platform with a relatively modern AESA radar?

Kind of like an F 5 2.0

Maybe use it to carry 358 missiles.