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[maxpane]

there was a news circulation that russia is giving mig 29 to Iran . how much truth in that news?

 

[kastor ville]

MIG-29 even the SMT version is still no threat.....120KM radar, I'm not a military guy, so I'll let the others weigh in....but it's leagues behind the Su-35. Maybe they figure they can scramble them to shoot down drones..or cruise missiles? But the lingering issue with the F-35 is there is no early warning with that SOB...it's all BVR fighting. Let's hope they're on the list for the SU-75 Checkmate, once they start pumping out of the factory.

 

[Shams313]

MIG-29 even the SMT version is still no threat.....120KM radar, I'm not a military guy, so I'll let the others weigh in....but it's leagues behind the Su-35. Maybe they figure they can scramble them to shoot down drones..or cruise missiles? But the lingering issue with the F-35 is there is no early warning with that SOB...it's all BVR fighting. Let's hope they're on the list for the SU-75 Checkmate, once they start pumping out of the factory.

Going for j35 will be better, Its well built, well tested, china can deliver in numbers and better stealth and electronic capability.

Su75 yet to be reveled even in prototype.

 

[Flotilla]

I am not saying US or West in general wont back down from their promises. They know IRI's weaknesses inside out so for all we know they might trick weak IRI to sign on something only to break it in future. They have done it before and saw Iran doing nothing in return. Soleimani's assasination was illegal by all means, Iran should have ripped NPT apart and tested devices in return to establish some level of deterence but IRI chickened out so west knows IRI Ayatollahs have no balls to begin with.

I mean look at from their perspective. Israel took a beating from IRGCAF (forget causalities for a sec). Worlds most gaurded and layered airspace was breached regularly, ports, institutes, population centers everything got hit. IRGCAF just was not getting deterred because they had the Missile Power to do so. What if this missile power is curbed to ineffectivity while Mullahs can get few stupid Russian jets to show in Parades as "prize" of diplomacy. In reality it will be Iran getting its strike arms cut. Basically another Turkey or KSA 2.0 with a 4th generation AF but no effective Missile Strike Capability that can threaten Israel and western interests.

I am only guessing because of MP's disclosure and Larijani's rant about US asking for Missile program curbing all happening at the same time and both in state media. We know Khamenei settled for 2000 KM figure before and around same time numbers of FMC F-14A's increased (Articles said US let spare reach Iran). They knew Iran having few dozen 1970s interceptors wont mean anything but it will make sure Iran does not take DPRK's route of testing ICBMs every month. West knows how to play with these dumb priests.

In reality this is a war between Irán and US/Israel (two sides of the same coin). Increasing ranges of missiles would eventually drag EU to the scene unnecessary.

With 2000 Km Irán can hit whatever militarily objective of US/Israel in the whole Middle East.

Irán is not curbing missile production. AFAIK just ranges. So the real danger comes from the lack of credible Air Force. We can be optimist if some dozens Mig29 are arriving. Those would have no real utility for challenging Israeli Air force. But at least would provide unvaluable training for new pilots and personnel in modern fighters if they're equipped with modern avionics.

As intermediate step Mig29 It is a good solution, but final step must be ambitious. Su35 by 2 Squadrons at least. And would be much better if any AEW comes also (highly unlikely).

The real target It is the whole Government, starting by Khamenei. Everybody knows that.

 

[Shafagh]

In reality this is a war between Irán and US/Israel (two sides of the same coin). Increasing ranges of missiles would eventually drag EU to the scene unnecessary.

With 2000 Km Irán can hit whatever militarily objective of US/Israel in the whole Middle East.

Irán is not curbing missile production. AFAIK just ranges. So the real danger comes from the lack of credible Air Force. We can be optimist if some dozens Mig29 are arriving. Those would have no real utility for challenging Israeli Air force. But at least would provide unvaluable training for new pilots and personnel in modern fighters if they're equipped with modern avionics.

As intermediate step Mig29 It is a good solution, but final step must be ambitious. Su35 by 2 Squadrons at least. And would be much better if any AEW comes also (highly unlikely).

The real target It is the whole Government, starting by Khamenei. Everybody knows that.

If they kill Khamenei, who are some possible successors?

 

[ShapurII]

If they kill Khamenei, who are some possible successors?

If the West can dictate their will, somebody like Rohani, I guess.

 

[StrategicBear]

Chinese fighter aircraft technology has now surpassed Russian's. Example: Russia has no equivalent to the 6th gen fighter prototypes China is currently flying now.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Chinese fighter aircraft technology has now surpassed Russian's. Example: Russia has no equivalent to the 6th gen fighter prototypes China is currently flying now.

This has been true for quite some time now even since the J-20 came out, and J10CE.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I think last year we were told that Su-35s were guaranteed to land in Iran. Whatever happened to that deal?

 

[muhammed45]

I think last year we were told that Su-35s were guaranteed to land in Iran. Whatever happened to that deal?

Russians fell in love with Trump lol

 

[Sipahsalar]

“Alongside the MiG-29s, Zohrevant said that Tehran will be acquiring Russia’s S-400 air defense systems and China’s HQ-9 air defense system “in significant numbers.”

Why would you get both? Either get s400 or hq 9. It’s better for logistics and integration.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

@Mr Iran Eye

Any updates regarding the situation at Tabriz & Dezful. (IRIAF related)

There is a lot of speculation, but it seems that Iran's condition for purchasing the MiG-29 is to receive the MiG-29M2 version with the AESA radar, the Zhuk-AE radar. As for the rest, I don't really know, like you.

 

[Bharatah]

The "specialists" in war(of Forum) seem not to have basic notions of how modern conflicts work. For a nation like Iran, NOT HAVING A MAJOR fighter jet/fighter aircraft FORCE IS STRATEGIC AND CORRECT, but why ? because these fighter airplanes are very expensive: maintenance, pilots, hangar is all very expensive and they can still be destroyed at any moment(because they cannot be in tunnels very below).

General Suleimani created a military strategy(that today is being copied in various parts of the world) where you substitute the fighter jet for ballistic missiles and drones that are INFINITELY cheaper and do the same function. The targets that Iran(or Yemen) managed to hit in Israel were only possible due to this strategy, if it were with classic airplanes it would not manage because either they would all be shot down in their take-off or they would be shot down on their way until Israel. This is the reason why the USA does not mind to give some airplanes to Arab monarchies, Asian countries and others because inside the classic context of war(against USA/ISRAEL/NATO) these airplanes SERVE FOR NOTHING.

Iran does not need these fighter jet/ fighter aircraft, except for one or another case of strengthening the defense against aerial invaders, but the world tendency is that in the next 100-150 years the fighters will end and there will only be missiles and drones. Russia already does a big part of its attacks against Ukraine utilizing this strategy, the Russian fighters are more used for defense. Chinna do the same :

Above, we see Chinese drones: on the left, the drones were designed to perform the role of a classic fighter jet, resembling an F16. The drone on the right is equivalent to a B2, and is even "invisible" and stealthy. That's where Iran needs to invest. This F-16/F-35 story is just propaganda from the Western arms industry.

note: with this "drones/missiles" strategy, even a medium-sized guerrilla can face a large rival army.

 

[Shafagh]

The "specialists" in war(of Forum) seem not to have basic notions of how modern conflicts work. For a nation like Iran, NOT HAVING A MAJOR fighter jet/fighter aircraft FORCE IS STRATEGIC AND CORRECT, but why ? because these fighter airplanes are very expensive: maintenance, pilots, hangar is all very expensive and they can still be destroyed at any moment(because they cannot be in tunnels very below).

General Suleimani created a military strategy(that today is being copied in various parts of the world) where you substitute the fighter jet for ballistic missiles and drones that are INFINITELY cheaper and do the same function. The targets that Iran(or Yemen) managed to hit in Israel were only possible due to this strategy, if it were with classic airplanes it would not manage because either they would all be shot down in their take-off or they would be shot down on their way until Israel. This is the reason why the USA does not mind to give some airplanes to Arab monarchies, Asian countries and others because inside the classic context of war(against USA/ISRAEL/NATO) these airplanes SERVE FOR NOTHING.

Iran does not need these fighter jet/ fighter aircraft, except for one or another case of strengthening the defense against aerial invaders, but the world tendency is that in the next 100-150 years the fighters will end and there will only be missiles and drones. Russia already does a big part of its attacks against Ukraine utilizing this strategy, the Russian fighters are more used for defense. Chinna do the same :

Above, we see Chinese drones: on the left, the drones were designed to perform the role of a classic fighter jet, resembling an F16. The drone on the right is equivalent to a B2, and is even "invisible" and stealthy. That's where Iran needs to invest. This F-16/F-35 story is just propaganda from the Western arms industry.

note: with this "drones/missiles" strategy, even a medium-sized guerrilla can face a large rival army.

Did Iranian air defence succeed in repelling Israeli attacks?

 

[Bharatah]

Did Iranian air defence succeed in repelling Israeli attacks?

If you're asking about one-on-one combat and tracking the enemy's actions, the answer is yes: Iran managed to stop the worst of it, launching many strikes in 12 days, destroying several targets in Israel.

Where Iran failed: it failed to prevent the CIA/MOSSAD from infiltrating the country, which it obtained from corrupt politicians and military personnel who conducted an internal spy/terrorist army with their own drone and explosives factories. These managed to destroy some of Iran's defense systems, as well as disrupt others and committing murders, allowing external attacks to take place.

NOTE : It's very likely that this spy army was originally created to provide military support for the "Color Revolution" that began in 2022 with the fake news of the "Beating of the Unveiled Girl, Mahsa." Since this Color Revolution failed, the Mossad used this army for these attacks in 2025, and there must be other Mossad terrorist cells within it.