Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[kobra]

American propaganda? Look around, you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base. EU + US can trigger SnapBack of UN Sanctions and Russia/China cannot use veto to stop it.

There is no indication China wants a strategic relationship with Iran. China has good relations with Israel and the Arabs. They offered Iran 15 years ago to be central part of Silk Road initiative and Iran bet on JCPOA instead. China then built elsewhere in Middle East instead.

That’s why the so called 20 year “strategic deal” with China wasn’t worth the paper it was written on! How many years later and what has Iran gotten from that? Nothing strategic about it! China isn’t going to risk their future for Iran’s, whereas Iran risked its entire livelihood for Palestinian cause. Noble on paper sure, but in reality it bankrupted the nation while all of our neighbors prospered at our expense (Azerbaijan, Turkey, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar).

I don’t see why anyone thinks Iran can run to China with no cards in its hands and expect China to align itself with Iran over the wealthier Arabs and the influential Jews. Even if China would entertain such a laughable idea, the amount of concessions Iran would have to give up would be Qajar dynasty level capitulation.

It’s all hypothetical anyway, China has shown no interest in such a relationship. Neither has Russia. Both Russia and China are hedging their bets so that if Iran falls they have some influence in future Iran rather than being completely shut out like Iran is currently with respect to Syria. That’s how pragmatic they are.



China is an atheist state that also prosecutes Muslims and throws them into “work camps”. Let’s not act like China is any different than other great powers that came before it.

" you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base"

All we saw were 6 holes at top of mountain thats it. Nobody knows what happened inside, Complete destruction or as orange muppet said annhilation is a bit far fetched.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

 

[BigMela2onin]

American propaganda?

I'm specifically referring to American propaganda about China, debt traps, and client states.

Look around, you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base. EU + US can trigger SnapBack of UN Sanctions and Russia/China cannot use veto to stop it.

This is completely irrelevant to my post.

There is no indication China wants a strategic relationship with Iran. China has good relations with Israel and the Arabs. They offered Iran 15 years ago to be central part of Silk Road initiative and Iran bet on JCPOA instead. China then built elsewhere in Middle East instead.

Yeah another retarded move by IR and welcomed by reformists.

I don’t see why anyone thinks Iran can run to China with no cards in its hands and expect China to align itself with Iran over the wealthier Arabs and the influential Jews. Even if China would entertain such a laughable idea, the amount of concessions Iran would have to give up would be Qajar dynasty level capitulation.

IR will be giving up way more to the west, it will make the treaties with Russia seem minor in comparison after they are forced to give up all territories with ethnic minorities and all Iran's resources. And it will get nothing in return except continuation of IR to keep whatever is left of Iran perpetually weak.

It’s all hypothetical anyway, China has shown no interest in such a relationship. Neither has Russia. Both Russia and China are hedging their bets so that if Iran falls they have some influence in future Iran rather than being completely shut out like Iran is currently with respect to Syria. That’s how pragmatic they are.

Yes China is skilled in diplomacy and statecraft unlike retarded IR. There is much to be learned from them.

China is an atheist state that also prosecutes Muslims and throws them into “work camps”. Let’s not act like China is any different than other great powers that came before it.

This is markedly untrue. Providing vocational training and deradicalization training to potential ETIM terrorists is smart. Saudi and UAE also do deradicalization stuff. Would you criticize Iran for doing such things with Balochis? Is killing them or allowing them to join ETIM and carry out terrorist attacks a better option? Also if they persecute muslims why do we never hear about oppression of Hui?

 

[Immortals]

" you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base"

All we saw were 6 holes at top of mountain thats it. Nobody knows what happened inside, Complete destruction or as orange muppet said annhilation is a bit far fetched.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

Who cares what happened inside? The site is not operable. Natanz is not operable. Isfahan metal conversion facility is destroyed. Iran is not enriching uranium on a large scale anymore. Everything is halted.

All of the above costs money (that Iran is strapped on) to rebuild and for what point? Another B-2 Squadron can roll in and bomb them again with little consequences.

There is basically a no fly zone over Iran right now even if Iran wont admit it. Enemy stealth planes can come and go and Iran won’t be able to do much in response other than fire another 15-20 missile salvos .

SnapBack UN sanctions is likely in next 12 months unless Iran capitulates. It’s got little to no cards to play or use as leverage. Its only leverage is the 400kg of uranium buried into a mountain. And even that is not much of a bargaining chip (no matter how much U.S. media sensationalism likes to make it out as).

 

[Persian Gulf]

Who cares what happened inside? The site is not operable. Natanz is not operable. Isfahan metal conversion facility is destroyed. Iran is not enriching uranium on a large scale anymore. Everything is halted.

All of the above costs money (that Iran is strapped on) to rebuild and for what point? Another B-2 Squadron can roll in and bomb them again with little consequences.

There is basically a no fly zone over Iran right now even if Iran wont admit it. Enemy stealth planes can come and go and Iran won’t be able to do much in response other than fire another 15-20 missile salvos .

SnapBack UN sanctions is likely in next 12 months unless Iran capitulates. It’s got little to no cards to play or use as leverage. Its only leverage is the 400kg of uranium buried into a mountain. And even that is not much of a bargaining chip (no matter how much U.S. media sensationalism likes to make it out as).

worth noting the US admitted it did not attempt to bomb Natanz-2 or Esfahan tunnels since they are too deep underground

so some sites can be better protected assuming Iran doesn't build a vertical ventilation shaft from the surface and try to cover it with some dirt and hope no one saw

a better solution is probably a mix of Qazvin and Natanz-2 and small distributed sites across the country using laser enrichment

but this is all pointless for as long as Iran does not have a clear strategy and remains stuck in limbo of banning nukes and telling the world it will accept limits since it doesn't seek nuclear weapons while secretly trying to build nukes and threatening to destroy Israel.

 

[kastor ville]

The nuclear program iran is on life support.

There is no desire to rebuild Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan, etc. and even if the desire was there what was is the point? They cannot defend these sites.

And with what will they build? These sites cost hundreds if not billions of dollars to build. Iran is poorer and poorer each year.

Israel/USA didn’t try to eliminate the Nuclear Program from the air, they just aimed to make it so costly and time consuming to repair that Iran will see no logical reason to rebuild. Killing scientists/engineers also plays a part in the rebuild process.

This is what they did to Assad and Saddam bombed both their programs (much smaller) and both decided it wasn’t worth the headache and costs to rebuild. Assad was covertly building a plutonium reactor in Dier ez Zor allegedly with NK help before it was bombed prior to coming online (pre CIA revolution).

Iran doesn’t really have any cards left to play. How is selling out to China any different to selling out to US? Iran toppled the Shah to eventually go from a U.S. client state to a Chinese one?

Iran is looking wildly incompetent these days. As if they had no plan in place if US/Israel would attack.

How do you know this? From Youtube.com? If you were in charge would you rebuild openly? No! You would say exactly what they're saying right now, because you correctly surmised, they would simply bomb it again.....but what if you had plans for a secret military site? Would you blast that over the airwaves to show your defiance? Or would you quietly, methodically go about your business?

 

[John Smith]

They don't have the crawling opposition that Irán has.

Anyway killing some generals of IRGC and scientists is not that bad. IRI and Sepah won't fail again. Their butt are the next. That is like Stuxnet virus. You can use just one time that weapon. Next time IRI will close that window.

Yeah, except pretty much all the generals in the IRGC now are incompetent retards. They're more concerned with their businesses inside Iran to care about national security.
Qassem Soleimani was the real deal. He pretty much built and ran the Axis of Resistance with his own hands. And as long as he lived, Iran had a competent guy at the helm.

 

[John Smith]

How do you know this? From Youtube.com? If you were in charge would you rebuild openly? No! You would say exactly what they're saying right now, because you correctly surmised, they would simply bomb it again.....but what if you had plans for a secret military site? Would you blast that over the airwaves to show your defiance? Or would you quietly, methodically go about your business?

From a more competent administration, thats what I would expect. But the keywords are "from a more competent administration".

 

[Bharatah]

" you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base"

All we saw were 6 holes at top of mountain thats it. Nobody knows what happened inside, Complete destruction or as orange muppet said annhilation is a bit far fetched.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

An airstrike on a nuclear power plant would not cause a nuclear explosion, but it would act as a massive "dirty bomb," leading to a severe, long-term environmental and humanitarian catastrophe.

What would leak?
A highly dangerous mix of radioactive materials would be released, primarily:

• Iodine-131: Absorbed by the thyroid, causing cancer.
• Cesium-137: Contaminates soil, water, and food for decades; causes various cancers.
• Strontium-90: Accumulates in bones and bone marrow, causing leukemia.
• Plutonium-239: Extremely toxic if inhaled; causes lung cancer.

Consequences:

• Immediate deaths from acute radiation poisoning near the site.
• A radioactive plume would spread over hundreds of miles, contaminating land, water, and air.
• Creation of a permanent exclusion zone.
• Long-term increase in cancer rates, birth defects, and contamination of the food chain for generations.

In short, bombing a plant would unleash long-lasting radioactive poisons, making the area uninhabitable for centuries and creating a cross-border disaster. This is why such an act is considered a severe violation of international law and nothing of it happend in IRAN. Which leads us to believe that this US/Israeli version is yet another narrative like the 40 beheaded babies or 99% of missiles shot down. What they may have done over there, is to have attacked buildings and tents that are on the ground, destroying walls, roofs, etc but the nuclear project this did but the nuclear project itself was not destroyed or even attacked otherwise we would have SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF THIS and we have none.

 

[Persian Gulf]

looks like Hamas is inflicting some nice blows on Israel in Gaza today. multiple well planned ambushes.

 

[Shafagh]

An airstrike on a nuclear power plant would not cause a nuclear explosion, but it would act as a massive "dirty bomb," leading to a severe, long-term environmental and humanitarian catastrophe.

What would leak?
A highly dangerous mix of radioactive materials would be released, primarily:

• Iodine-131: Absorbed by the thyroid, causing cancer.
• Cesium-137: Contaminates soil, water, and food for decades; causes various cancers.
• Strontium-90: Accumulates in bones and bone marrow, causing leukemia.
• Plutonium-239: Extremely toxic if inhaled; causes lung cancer.

Consequences:

• Immediate deaths from acute radiation poisoning near the site.
• A radioactive plume would spread over hundreds of miles, contaminating land, water, and air.
• Creation of a permanent exclusion zone.
• Long-term increase in cancer rates, birth defects, and contamination of the food chain for generations.

In short, bombing a plant would unleash long-lasting radioactive poisons, making the area uninhabitable for centuries and creating a cross-border disaster. This is why such an act is considered a severe violation of international law and nothing of it happend in IRAN. Which leads us to believe that this US/Israeli version is yet another narrative like the 40 beheaded babies or 99% of missiles shot down. What they may have done over there, is to have attacked buildings and tents that are on the ground, destroying walls, roofs, etc but the nuclear project this did but the nuclear project itself was not destroyed or even attacked otherwise we would have SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF THIS and we have none.

But they didn't target a nuclear power plant.

They hit uranium processing and enrichment facilities.

Do you know if the impact would be same? Im no nuclear expert.

 

[Shafagh]

" you don’t need American propaganda to tell you the reality on the ground. B-2’s flew into Iran and incapacitated billion dollar nuclear installations and the only thing Iran did was fire a few missiles at US base"

All we saw were 6 holes at top of mountain thats it. Nobody knows what happened inside, Complete destruction or as orange muppet said annhilation is a bit far fetched.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

That's why I have been questioning why folks are quick to believe Araqchi's statements that the facilities were badly damaged/destroyed. Of course he would say that.

Former weapons inspector Scott Ritter talked about instances whem he visited Iraqi nuclear and chemical weapons sites in the 1990s. He showed up with a delegation of scientists, experts, inspectors, to perform assessments on Iraqi sites targetted by coalition forces; battle damage assessment essentially.

He said in many instances, they couldn't find any evidence of what they wanted to target because the Iraqis had moved everything, so they hit empty facilities.

If Saddam's forces were smart enough, surely Iran would have done the same. The sites weren't all destroyed on day 1, which means even if they hadn't moved everything, they could have moved equipment and material over the course of the war, before the U.S. attack.

 

[Shafagh]

I'm specifically referring to American propaganda about China, debt traps, and client states.

This is completely irrelevant to my post.

Yeah another retarded move by IR and welcomed by reformists.

IR will be giving up way more to the west, it will make the treaties with Russia seem minor in comparison after they are forced to give up all territories with ethnic minorities and all Iran's resources. And it will get nothing in return except continuation of IR to keep whatever is left of Iran perpetually weak.

Yes China is skilled in diplomacy and statecraft unlike retarded IR. There is much to be learned from them.

This is markedly untrue. Providing vocational training and deradicalization training to potential ETIM terrorists is smart. Saudi and UAE also do deradicalization stuff. Would you criticize Iran for doing such things with Balochis? Is killing them or allowing them to join ETIM and carry out terrorist attacks a better option? Also if they persecute muslims why do we never hear about oppression of Hui?

Why not institute a fake regime change

Put in power military and technocrats who are even more anti-west and pretend to cozy up to them.

Sorry, I'm kidding. Just trying to lighten up the mood despite the situation

 

[Bharatah]

But they didn't target a nuclear power plant.

They hit uranium processing and enrichment facilities.

Do you know if the impact would be same? Im no nuclear expert.

The same thing and they say that target a nuclear power plant too(if it is true i don't know because they tell a lot of lies).

 

[chinasun]

The US's goal in aiding Israel is to use Israel as a weapon to carve up a Middle Eastern pie, maintain dollar hegemony, and profit.

China's diplomatic strategy is to promote reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Iran, making it difficult for the US to carve up a pie and making the gains more costly than they actually are. China will then work with the BRICS countries to dismantle dollar hegemony, eliminating the need for the US to protect Israel and effectively resolving the Palestinian issue.

China is not an opportunist as some believe, but rather seeks to identify the key points of a problem and address them accordingly.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Why not institute a fake regime change

Put in power military and technocrats who are even more anti-west and pretend to cozy up to them.

Sorry, I'm kidding. Just trying to lighten up the mood despite the situation

Unfortunately, the new plan of the whites is just to destroy everything. They don't bother with nation building anymore after Iraq and Afghanistan. Now it's just destroy the country and physically occupy the resources. Regime change won't do anything. Retard reformists and simpleton khamenei have brought us to ruin. There must be a popular movement like the sacred defense to salvage the situation.