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[ToddE]

Also IRI keep his frontier in any hypothetical nuclear deal in the enrichment capability. Therefore It mus be assumed that even if a deal is reached, IRI will master all nuclear weapons cycle. By the way, after breaking all cooperation with IAEA in El Cairo in september, nobody is watching any part of Irán nuclear program so the clock is running. And day after day more and more missiles are added to the Iranian inventory.

Khamenei's Anti-nuke fatva is the only hurdle otherwise what stops IRI from HEU=>WGU ? the day that happens, strategically Iran will become invincible. Right now it can impose a conventional mutually assured destruction doctrine with pseudo-nuclear capability. Not enough.

 

[ToddE]

@Persian Gulf I am answering you here.

there was a higher rate of impact in the latter days but we are talking about 1-4 missile impacts per day

two more questions for you

1) what average accuracy (CEP) do you think those impacts achieved?

Why would you need CEP for a destructive strike on a soft urban target ? I will take strikes on Beersheba, Soroka, Eshkol power plant, Weizmann vicinity, Gav Yam as references because these strikes were carried out in last phases. I will guess ~100-150 m CEP which is good enough for soft urban infrastructure targets. Caused large enough damage. Even by mouth of Israelis, ~1000 people got injured in these strikes alone and remember there was a gag order on ground reports so we can guess the actual number of casualties could even be higher. IRGC wasted initial waves on hardened military targets. Israel had no reason to come to a ceasefire otherwise.

2) how many strikes did Israel conduct per day during those days? expressed in TNT or kg of payload delivered, how much payload do you think each side delivered per day during those days? for reference, 4 impacts for Iran (generously) is c. 2000-2500kg of payload delivered per day.

You cant compare missile strikes to aerial attacks in terms of weight of warhead delivered because single sortie of an aircraft can achieve what 5 Missiles together achieve. I posted before 2-2.5 tonnes for IRGCASF and 10-30 tonnes for IAF. Thats also the ratio of destruction of a missile vs attack aircraft.

 

[ToddE]

i don't think their missiles are that accurate at that range .

You are terribly misinformed. Some samples below of MRBMs hitting targets with extreme accuracy. More can be produced. Remember IRGC shows extreme details of their tests with onboard footage of stage separations/coarse corrections, target destruction. I am glad they are not doing it anymore.

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... This is an IRBM that IISS estimates to be capable of hitting 3500 KM.

 

[kastor ville]

Lindsey Graham is the type of white old stupid politician who Jews trap through Pedo honey traps and they end up spewing Israeli propaganda for survival.

He's gay......they've had him compromised for years....that and every one of his reelection campaigns have been financed by the zios.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

There is no "we" here, Its just peace dove Khamenei and few of his cultists who are anti-nuke. Any normal sane nationalist Iranian will want nuclear umbrella over Iran for strategic security.



The moment you strike an American authority figure, they will kill 50 of yours in return. Tough words wont matter. Remember Soleimani Assassination? how many American generals and government figures did IRGC kill in return? Khamenei led Iran instead went to "talks" with same Trump led US.



Cold war experts have been there and done it for you decades back. ICBM is for nuclear strike and has no other purpose because of cost/target value reasons. Nobody is foolish enough to waste two missile stages and an MaRV on delivering a meaningless 1000 lbs conventional warhead some 5000-6000 KM away. Strategic bombers, attack aircrafts were created to cover for that. Even for MRBM ranges an Air-superiority fighter can cause the damage of 5-6 Ballistic missiles in single sortie.

We need a nationalist-led military coup to end the pedophile clerical nuke-is-haram crowd.

 

[ToddE]

We need a nationalist-led military coup to end the pedophile clerical nuke-is-haram crowd.

These low IQ Khamenei cultists have no future in Iran. Khamenei's ball-less stupidity gave us 1000 corpses of Iranians. In the middle of the war he was spewing Anti-iranian BS like Iran is not important, thinking modern youth will buy his anti-national Islamist ideology.

 

[Immortals]

This time nothing will be left of US oil and gas assets and bases in the region.

0% chance Iran attacks any energy facilities (outside of Israel) and 0% chance it directly attacks any major U.S. bases without ample warning and their worst missiles.

Iran isn’t going to attack such targets because it will open its own energy assets (which are highly vulnerable) to counterattack. If Iran loses its oil facilities and refineries it will severely restrict its war fighting capabilities. And its economy will grind to a halt as even basic things like gasoline and natural gas for heating and cooking will become scarce in that society.

So once again it will attempt to fight for a ceasefire. Iran unlike Russia or China cannot afford an all out war — it doesn’t have the air defense, Air Force, and war time coffers for such a war. It would set Iran back decades. Best Iran can do is race to a nuke and keep fighting for a ceasefires until it reaches the nuclear club.

Or wait for democrats to come to power in next election and go back to Cold War stance, if they are truly given up going for the bomb.

 

[Kyussis]

We need a nationalist-led military coup to end the pedophile clerical nuke-is-haram crowd.

Reza Pahlavi was a "Nationalist" who came to power in a military coup. Him and his gay son gave away Bahrain, Helmand and other parts of Iran unlike the Islamic Republic which has not given an inch!

 

[PakAl]

'this time will be different'

do you remember what all the top IRGC and IRI commanders/leaders were saying would happen if the US dared to attack Iranian nuclear sites before the war?

they flew over Iran, bombed and destroyed Fordow and Natanz, escaped unharmed, and only suffered one destroyed satellite communication device in Qatar in response

you can compare the threats vs the reality

What Israel is selling to the Usa:
We dont want a war with Iran but you must help us destroy all Iranian missiles/missiles factories, Iran must possess no capability to ever attack our cities again, then we can move forward with middleeast peace plan where no nation will/can harm/challenge Israel. Israel will soon be going after Hizbollah, they don't want to be ever attacked again, but they themselves will continue to bully and harass everyone else, they will keep bombing others to make sure noone else can build their militaries.

Alot of Iranian generals are daring Israel to attack again but giving out statements and official policy is different. I expected Iranian government/military to give official statement, send it to the UN that if Israel attacks Iran again they will fight with full force, they will fire 10,000 missiles at Israel in order to defend their existence, since Israel is a nuclear state but so far Iran has done nothing of sorts. Its possible behind the scenes Israel is making the nuclear threat, we don't know but its possible, and we also know for a fact that if Israel existence is under threat they will use the nukes. In another words Iran is facing great danger.

 

[PakAl]

We need a nationalist-led military coup to end the pedophile clerical nuke-is-haram crowd.

I have nothing against the Iranian regime but their policy is certainly not good. They make it out that they will destroy Israel and Usa, but have no capability, they know Israel their enemy has nukes but themselves claim its haram to build them. Then how will they defend 90M Iranians, why even mess with Israel and Usa, why challenge their dominance in the middleeast. I understand bravery etc but 90m Iranians must be protected first. Regarding nuclear enrichment, Iran insists on it but due to it has lost 100 billions or even trillion of economy but still does not build a bomb, why not stop enrichment and import energy, the removal of sanctions and economy growth will make up for it. The western world and Israel use this to say Iran is hiding something or planning to build a bomb. Its better for Iran to give full access to their nuclear facilities, especially with China as guarantor and work towards full removal of sanctions.

Iran boasts of nuclear advances, calls building an atomic bomb a simple task

The spokesman for Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization said the country has made significant nuclear advances, and that developing an atomic bomb would be very easy if Tehran chose to pursue it.

www.iranintl.com

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Reza Pahlavi was a "Nationalist" who came to power in a military coup. Him and his gay son gave away Bahrain, Helmand and other parts of Iran unlike the Islamic Republic which has not given an inch!

Shah was a puppet trying to act nationalist. We have pretty much nationalist figures and inspiration in Iranian history. I dont know why you mention shah when we have Darius the great, Sassan, Ardeshir I, Shapur ll, Mehrdad l & ll, Amir Kabir, Shah Abbas, Shah Ismail. Whoever is against Iran having nukes while Israel and US and France threatened to nuke Iran, is anti-nationalist, anti-Iranian.

 

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[ToddE]

Hot headed retards like you will get Iran nuked but I know you don't care cause you live in the U.K!

1000+ Iranians died at hands of US-Israel because Mullahs started a meaningless war against them in name of Palestinian Arabs. They wasted 50 years of Iran being a backward Draconian society in crippling sanctions, wasted 500+ billion USD on fighting Israel. No "hot headed" nationalist like me did this, Mullahs and their low IQ cultists like you did it, congratulations on your success.

 

[Kyussis]

1000+ Iranians died at hands of US-Israel because Mullahs started a meaningless war against them in name of Palestinian Arabs. They wasted 50 years of Iran being a backward Draconian society in crippling sanctions, wasted 500+ billion USD on fighting Israel. No "hot headed" nationalist like me did this, Mullahs and their low IQ cultists like you did it, congratulations on your success.

It was not a "meaningless war" They are committing Genocide in our backyard while having a "Greater Israel project" which will put them at our doorstep and we are rightly in opposition to them along with our partners in the axis of resistance.

I am sorry I called you a "retard". I find you to be very knowable with regards to aerospace matters. I disagree with you regarding the open declaration of Nuclear Arms ambitions when faced with the likes of the U.S and Israel.

 

[ToddE]

You are mad we refuse to be their bitch.

They are not interested in making you their bitch. American-Jews have ZERO interest in Iran. Only last effective relationship between them and IRI was when US supplied Khomeini with massive weapons and Israel coordinated with IRIAF. They rule the planet, they dont care about some delusional Islamo-Marxist sanctioned society.

It was not a "meaningless war" They are committing Genocide in our backyard

Gaza is Iranian "backyard" lol ? Iranian border gaurds are being killed inside Iranian territory, people are leaving Iran due to lack of jobs, facilities and you want to care about "backyard gaza" ?

while having a "Greater Israel project" which will put them at our doorstep

Enemies of Iran that have historically hurt Iran are already at Iranian borders. Khamenei licks their rear bottoms now calling them Islamic brothers and strategic partners. You want to know their names and how many million Iranians have died due to these brothers and partners of Khamenei, just in last 100 years ? I can give a list. Hint, they are not westerners.

and we are the only real opposition along with the axis of resistance.

No we are useful tool to Russia and now Arab league, basically a DPRK equivalent in Middle east. A useful ruined bargaining chip with GDP ranked at 35 (12th in 1977) despite having worlds 2nd largest HC reserves.