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[muhammed45]

Mashregh reports, engineers are still hardly trying to return the ship to surface. The water is shallow almost 14 metres deep and it's impossible Sahand eventually sinks.

ادامه تلاش نیروی دریایی برای بازگرداندن سهند به سطح آب

تلاش ها برای بازگرداندن تعادل ناوشکن سهند ادامه دارد.

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The warship was able to tolerate waves as long as a building but the incompetent crew succesfully managed to sink it.

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[muhammed45]

Sahand in Atlantic ocean

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[jauk]

Mashregh reports, engineers are still hardly trying to return the ship to surface. The water is shallow almost 14 metres deep and it's impossible Sahand eventually sinks.

ادامه تلاش نیروی دریایی برای بازگرداندن سهند به سطح آب

تلاش ها برای بازگرداندن تعادل ناوشکن سهند ادامه دارد.

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The warship was able to tolerate waves as long as a building but the incompetent crew succesfully managed to sink it.

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To be clear, Mashregh reports since the waters are shallow, the ship cannot 'sink' and can be retrieved. I believe they mean it's not irretrievably sunk as if it were in deep waters. Obviously it has sunk. This is good news nonetheless.

 

[Flotilla]

IRIN should stop this nonsense and reconsider a lot of things, this is too easy to say sabotage and that everything is alright, meanwhile IRGCN gets all the latest ships and never had such an incident, while they are listed as "terrorists" by the main saboteurs, this isn't because of luck

Probably because the issues of the Sahand (many people including me criticized the "hight weight" of the Radar and SAM launchers over the Sahand), the demolition team knew that the most vulnerable warship moored at Bandar Abbas was just the Sahand.

Also keep in mind that in one hand IRGCN are a truly professional navy, I mean, there are not people doing military service aboard and their officials could be deffinitively better trained than the petty officers or sailors aboard the Sahand in watch during the accident. But in the other hand, politically, sinking a brand new warship to the IRGCN could be a formal declaration of war for the Israeli agents and Israel cannot afford even a open close combat war agains HZ...

 

[muhammed45]

To be clear, Mashregh reports since the waters are shallow, the ship cannot 'sink' and can be retrieved. I believe they mean it's not irretrievably sunk as if it were in deep waters. Obviously it has sunk. This is good news nonetheless.

They also said that it will take time.

Unbelievable, I am yet to digest what I read in the morning.

 

[Flotilla]

Mashregh reports, engineers are still hardly trying to return the ship to surface. The water is shallow almost 14 metres deep and it's impossible Sahand eventually sinks.

ادامه تلاش نیروی دریایی برای بازگرداندن سهند به سطح آب

تلاش ها برای بازگرداندن تعادل ناوشکن سهند ادامه دارد.

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It was an epic voyage... a small sized corvette in North Atlantic!. The crew cannot be incompetent, they did it so good!. Something is missing in this issue.

 

[muhammed45]

It was an epic voyage... a small sized corvette in North Atlantic!. The crew cannot be incompetent, they did it so good!. Something is missing in this issue.

I mean the repair group by saying crew. Problem wasn't on the side of main crew of this ship. Whatever happened, it happened during maintenance.

 

[tsunset]

Probably because the issues of the Sahand (many people including me criticized the "hight weight" of the Radar and SAM launchers over the Sahand), the demolition team knew that the most vulnerable warship moored at Bandar Abbas was just the Sahand.

Also keep in mind that in one hand IRGCN are a truly professional navy, I mean, there are not people doing military service aboard and their officials could be deffinitively better trained than the petty officers or sailors aboard the Sahand in watch during the accident. But in the other hand, politically, sinking a brand new warship to the IRGCN could be a formal declaration of war for the Israeli agents and Israel cannot afford even a open close combat war agains HZ...

Only that no IRGCN ship sunk, not even one time, accident or shoot down

If we take from the Israleli/US POV,IRGCN is the threat as well as Beshad in terms of naval environment

None of credible threats has been sabotaged or aimed that besides cyber attacks

- IRGC
- Behshad
- Nuclear facilities
- Missile and drone facilities

Are the top priority for any Israeli/US sabotage

The brand new are Shahid Soleimani and BM transporting ships, Shahid Madavi, nothing yet happened to them

Sahand is a very old design, even it was built less than a decade before, it is a +30years old design, compared to brand new Shahid Soleimani

If this was Behshad i would have agreed without any question

 

[Hack-Hook]

Navy is much more experienced compared to IRGC-N. They have destroying Saddam's navy in their record. They have bravely fought against American navy in Persian gulf.

The old methods must be changed and they have to redirect their funds to useful designs and production lines.

Or else as you said, they will have to inevitably drop the surface fleet of the navy and stick to submersible fleet as you mentioned.

Navy did not destroy saddam navy . They last a boat trying to do that and that made airforce angry so they blow up any vessels Iraq jad.

 

[wudangmaster]

Probably because the issues of the Sahand (many people including me criticized the "hight weight" of the Radar and SAM launchers over the Sahand), the demolition team knew that the most vulnerable warship moored at Bandar Abbas was just the Sahand.

I thought the same thing, but it seems the sayyad missiles and launchers weren't on the ship when it happened, and the new radar couldn't be that much heavier (if at all) than the previous analogue dish.

 

[Immortals]

None of credible threats has been sabotaged or aimed that besides cyber attacks

- IRGC
- Behshad
- Nuclear facilities
- Missile and drone facilities

IRGC vessels have been targeted by Israel in shadow war. One of the floating bases like Behshad was hit.

But unlike IRIN they don’t have mishap after mishap. That shows basic problems in top down leadership.

 

[Flotilla]

I thought the same thing, but it seems the sayyad missiles and launchers weren't on the ship when it happened, and the new radar couldn't be that much heavier (if at all) than the previous analogue dish.

That makes more improbable the rolling up and capsizing of the ship. Anyway and answering here Tsunset in this post too, hope IRGCN reinforce underwater security in their naval bases and arsenals. They have luck with their fancy news ships and if they don't improve their security measures they can surfer same fate. Anyway I think Israel will think twice to sink a IRGCN ship in port.

 

[Immortals]

That makes more improbable the rolling up and capsizing of the ship. Anyway and answering here Tsunset in this post too, hope IRGCN reinforce underwater security in their naval bases and arsenals. They have luck with their fancy news ships and if they don't improve their security measures they can surfer same fate. Anyway I think Israel will think twice to sink a IRGCN ship in port.

There was nothing ‘fancy’ about Sahand.

Old ship design from the 60/70’s with some physical alterations. Old radar. And basic armament package.

Wasn’t sabatoge, it was ineptitude. No one is sitting out there plotting to sink Iran’s ‘modernized’ 1970’s design era ships.

You guys see boogeyman in every accident forgetting that Iran has a long long LONG history of skirting safety and precaution procedures.

 

[Persian Gulf]

another IRIN disaster

IRGC-N has proven to be far more competent in every aspect and we cannot attribute this entirely to fund allocation

 

[wudangmaster]

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