Zarathustra
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Just looked at their about page. They are registered in Latvia and report on Russian news mainly in Russian language.
No idea who funds them or their political bias.
Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions
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Flames In The Desert
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1/ Finally, the technical specifications of the Shahid 149 drone (Gaza) have been published, which seems to be more correct than the information of other banners that have been displayed so far:
Length: 10 meters
Wing length: 21 meters
Height: 4 meters
UAV base weight (empty fuel tank): 1740 kg
2/ Weight Run: 3740 kg (540 kg more than the information previously released)
Maximum fuel weight (capacity): 1500 kg
Cargo Weight: 500 kg
Motor type: turboprop engine
Motor Power: 750 hp
Maximum speed: 350 km / h
3/ Cruise Speed: 215 km/ h
Maximum Flight Continuity: 25 hours
Flight Height: 35,000 feet (Male UAV or Moderate Height and High Flight Control)
Length: 10 meters
Wing length: 21 meters
Height: 4 meters
UAV base weight (empty fuel tank): 1740 kg
2/ Weight Run: 3740 kg (540 kg more than the information previously released)
Maximum fuel weight (capacity): 1500 kg
Cargo Weight: 500 kg
Motor type: turboprop engine
Motor Power: 750 hp
Maximum speed: 350 km / h
3/ Cruise Speed: 215 km/ h
Maximum Flight Continuity: 25 hours
Flight Height: 35,000 feet (Male UAV or Moderate Height and High Flight Control)
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Immortals
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Not a fan of these drones. Outside of being a mini signal relayer their worth against near peer adversary is remote.
Look at TB-2, once Russian put in proper air defenses now you never hear about TB-2 anymore? why because MALE drones and medium size S-129/M-6/predator/TB-2 do not survive. Even Houthi’s and HZ can shoot them down.
Future drone program must either follow the path of F-117 (subsonic, LO, extreme terrain hugging and radar avoiding) or blackbird (high supersonic, VLO, ultra high altitude)
This is how you attain a deadly [reusable] weapon from 2030+ and beyond.
These subsonic drones will be a thing of the past as laser air defenses come online. Mass swarm attrition will no longer work as laser air defenses have unlimited ammo vs missile based canister air defense systems.
So you must either go be Subsonic but very low and avoid radar zones like F-117 did. Or go high and ultra fast like Blackbird did.
Anything in between will be a roasted bird.
Remember my words.
Flotilla
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For sure using this kind of UAVs or UCAV in high intensity battlefields, their perfomance decreases exponentially. But for patrolling the inmensity of Iran mainland and the frontier over Afghanistan or even Pakistan (with permission of PAF) are more than useful.
At the point you are describing maybe the eternal Q313 UCAV are much better suited. We will see after some years.
I believe the different UAV classes Iran has is for specific applications. And some are for export. They obviously are aware of the deadly fate TB2’s suffered.
Persian Gulf
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Immortals
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And yet Iran uses old Ababil and Mohajer designs for that role. You aren’t going to use M-6 or Gaza drone to patrol a border. Not on Iran’s budget.
And yet they wasted time on GAZA drone. These are “show off” weapon systems. Great for peacetime or smacking around insurgents.
If $350M dollar Global Hawk can get downed by a $100-200K Iranian AD missile, then what hope does any conventional drone have in contested warfare?
Where is this from? The person in 2024 did a 1995 era graphic of a F-117. They could have used AI generative tool to make something at least a little believable and more substantive. Instead they use that animation?
@Hack-Hook do you remember the picture of sofreh mahi prototype? It leaked pre-2010, it was supposedly a 1 to 4 scale or something and it was huge. I vividly remember the picture it was in a closed hanger like factory and took up the entire factory. It had a large wingspan that was even bigger than a Rq-170 (pre capture). It wasn’t a flying wing design either. And Iran was saying that they were testing this scale prototype and next building a 1:1.
Then I never saw the picture or ever saw a concrete photo of the project ever again. Then RQ-170 happened and that became priority.
Do you remember that photo? Does anyone here remember that photo? I swear it existed.
Sofreh Mahi existed as a scaled tangible prototype back in late 2000’s if the picture was real.
Your mixing apples and oranges. Albeit it might be possible Iranian engineers and strategists have not considered your mixed bag-o-concerns. You may want to reach out and set them straight.
Zarathustra
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muhammed45
Elite Member
Shahed-149 Gaza drone
The SAR radar on this drone
Assembly and optic system of Shahed-149
Wikipedia says its engine is a Pratt and whitney developed powerplant. An utter non sense made by this public source. It is an Iranian engine made by a joint team of Iranian companies and MAPNA on top of them. This Turboprop engine is powered by a gas turbine built by MAPNA group.
The SAR radar on this drone
Assembly and optic system of Shahed-149
Wikipedia says its engine is a Pratt and whitney developed powerplant. An utter non sense made by this public source. It is an Iranian engine made by a joint team of Iranian companies and MAPNA on top of them. This Turboprop engine is powered by a gas turbine built by MAPNA group.
tsunset
The Legend
I edited the article, it isn't even sourced
muhammed45
Elite Member
Thanks.
The overflow of technology of this Iranian engine can be used in Karrar tank's engine making it powered by a gas turbine. I know it would be a costly program but I guess that's the way to go to strengthen the ground forces.
tsunset
The Legend
If you have any links stating it is a MAPNA turboprop it would be great so that no one reverse the edit
Mehdipersian
Trusted Member
Can you make an article about Almas ATGM?
tsunset
The Legend
This will be hard considering the lack of official sources on Almas from the west, the article would be sourced only with western medias, Wikipedia doesn't accept most Iran-linked media as sources
IMO someone will surely make the article as Almas is used these days and people wonders what it is, most of the western medias doesn't include constructive analysis and specs and limits themselves to "It is a Spike copy"
Also does Almas have 8 or 10km range for the tripod version?
When someone will do it with better english i will make the french version as i did for most Iran warships, drones and missiles, also my english is not perfect
