Is Russia a newly industrialized country?

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PK781 said:
nato trying to fight russia (on behalf of usa) will only end up getting itself and europe destroyed by the russian might........once they provoke russia enough for them to lauch their big toys.
Just a matter of time now. Signs are obvious. I see 'Poland' has been "activated" to do its thing (just like in WW2, history repeating itself)

its no longer a conspiracy theory
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sir, as per comments of the post#3, with reference of your post about "Poland", our most of Forum People are habituated of Wikipedia, while having travelling many countries. :coffee:

have a close look on the last 'two' comments of post#3, they have very good idea about difference between Peru and Chile, Brazil and Argentina, and how Syria is put with those countries like Argentina-Chile-Uruguay where at least "Hot Water" facility is seen in homes? 🕳️

they are no fool, the second comment of post#3, how Poland is 'laggard' to that of Western Bloc like Greece and Portugal?

Greece and Portugal are developed, but not Poland? check the second comment of post#3 :coffee:.
sir, we have minimum information that Poland exceed Greece and Portugal type Western Bloc ...... 🙂

sir, we have seen the inside story of Western Bloc, they are no 'saving side' like Eastern Bloc including Poland :)

sir, I'm discussing the "Top Bottom approach", to discuss where we are present, and how the same Poland was divided between Germany and Russia during WW2 history, as per your comment........

"we by ourselves", is the Poland also, and hence we find its more close to Belarus-Eastern Bloc of Europe this way. its not with Western Bloc who always seek something from other countries, who are not by themselves, we find :coffee:

all these websites like Quora/Reddit are at least known to Forum Fighters, post#1.......

we need to have the minimum information/knowledge, which is Poland also, yes. and this newly entered NATO member has first increased border of East Germany Area, their people simply get German Passport, its the national policy of Germany for Polish people. and here, the Poland is filled with Soviet Arms while showing some of F16s to US/West also. :)
the Poland, a true enemy of NATO, and having good in-out from Ukraine which is Asia :D
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tower9 said:
Having an outrageous amount of billionaires is not a flex. It's a great thing that China has a greater balance between the size of its economy and the number of billionaires. The greater the billionaire class, the greater the control of an oligarchy.

Indians are literally celebrating parasites like Ambani throwing $200 gazillion dollar weddings while hundreds of thousands literally a mile away are showering in sewage and shitting on the streets.

While in the US, our billionaire class, have complete authoritarian control and have been fomenting policies that have literally destroyed the middle class, murdered millions worldwide with their disastrous wars and is plunging the US into collapse.
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@muhammed45
@Persian Gulf
@nahtanbob

good day gentleman

with reference of post#10, about 'total' of Indian and China's billionaire standing at $950bn and $1,340bn respectively, we find if we have a eye on how many workers, how much resources/and direct-indirect taxes these Industrialists are related with, then in this PPP comparison, we will finally find USA's billionaires will look like 'peon' of these Asian Billionaires.... 👎

I mean, how much you really 'worth' in terms of PPP comparison as compared to Asian billionaires like Indian-Chinese? do you bring 'skilled' human resources from Asia for this purpose also? while the Asian billionaires use their own skilled-unskilled workers both :)

while the story of 'true' Government Industries is very different in non-NATO countries, post#10....... :coffee:
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tower9 said:
Mexico only has outsourced manufacturing for industrial giants from other countries. Mexico has very little to no indigenous technology or R&D capabilities.
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Same as most of the so-called "newly industrialized countries" like the Phillipines or India.

China is also not a "newly industrlized" one. In fact, it industrialized since Northern Song dynasty in 10th century, failed, and re-industrialized since 19th century. If not for the failure of Qing dynasty and later civil wars, China today would probably richer than the US
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
Just place a complete ban on imported vehicles or at least work slowly towards a imposing a complete ban, and ask all foreign companies to establish their factories in Pakistan if they want to sell it to Pakistanis.

It's time Pakistan starts using the weight associated with the 250 million figure.
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ST1976

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ghazi52 said:
1960's Karachi

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Roads and vehicles both look impressive, we don't see we doing better than even 1960s people of Indian Subcontinent 🙂

It's more a shameful to see those cars/infrastructure today, which replaces our assets of even till 1960 👎
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Sir, with reference to my last post#127, we as Indian subcontinent people were enjoying that life till 1960, Which the Newly Industrialized countries like Korea, Japan, Singapore were not 🕳️

How we see this 'changed' East Asian Countries since the Japan started making cheap products first, since late 1950s, and then Korea, Singapore followed Japan?

How we see these East Asian NICs since 1950s
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ST1976

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ghazi52 said:
This Area is Very Suitable For Hotel Industry ...

This Hotel For Example:
1- First There was Built a Hotel it called "KILLARNEY HOTEL" in 1930s
2- Then it Converted "PALACE HOTEL" with New Management in 1950s
3- After Demolition PALACE HOTEL in 1977-78
Then we seen here a New Hotel same place and it was "SHERATON HOTEL"
Very Famous Hotel in Karachi 1980s till 2013
4- Well again Changed it's name with New Management and now it's "MOVENPICK".


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We find 1950s bit better than later 🕳️
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the late comer NICs from late 1950s, as discussed below :coffee:

ST1976

Thread 'Is Russia a newly industrialized country?'

Is Russia a newly industrialized country?
Short answer: No—Russia is generally classified as an upper-middle to high-income transitional economy with characteristics distinct from the conventional "newly industrialized country" (NIC) category used for late-20th-century industrializers.

Why Russia doesn’t fit the classic NIC label
  • Historical trajectory: Russia industrialized early (late 19th–early 20th centuries) and underwent rapid Soviet-era heavy industrialization, so it is not a late comer like the East Asian NICs :) (South...
 
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muhammed45 said:
So you think that Mexico is more industrialised than Russia? Come on. Russia is successor of Soviets, they maybe behind USA and China in a few fields but surely they have the scientific and industrial capacity to claim the third place of the globe in terms of giant indistries
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we dont find any comparison between NICs like Mexico with Soviet States. :)
the Mexico is similar industrialized like USA, which means for the false pictures of their industries, the bluffs of Industries etc.
while the Soviet states don't let their industries for export orders so easily. we dont publish bluffs of pictures of Industries :coffee:
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tower9 said:
No. Russia is a DE-Industrialized country that is at some level of RE-industrializing.
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@muhammed45
@Persian Gulf

We don't see The Moscow states loosing their ground of /till Cold War. For example, the Central Asian -Mig29 states haven't even upgraded their Mig29s but they are similarly wealthy as during 80s🕳️

We find ourselves "self sufficient" for what we are. We don't need to trade with NATO.
The publicity of export based products like Sony Mobile etc, we still find the "late-comer NICs" like East Asian countries are too poor for any comparison, post#1, 🕳️
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AViet said:
Same as most of the so-called "newly industrialized countries" like the Phillipines or India. 🕳️
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We have news that the Philippines fall below to even Bangladesh in terms industrialization, and it's true 🙂
 
ST1976 said:
Why Russia doesn’t fit the classic NIC label
  • Historical trajectory: Russia industrialized early (late 19th–early 20th centuries) and underwent rapid Soviet-era heavy industrialization, so it is not a late comer like the East Asian NICs :) (South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong). 👍
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The Soviet Union's industrial revolution was a state-led, accelerated process under Joseph Stalin from the late 1920s to 1941, aimed at transforming the agrarian USSR into a modern industrial power. Implemented through a series of Five-Year Plans, the program achieved rapid growth in heavy industry, though at a high human cost due to forced labor, poor working conditions, and suppression of dissent. This industrialization was crucial for the Soviet Union's survival, strengthening its defense capabilities and allowing it to emerge as a major global power, as discussed in this YouTube video.
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it was interesting to see, it were always the US/West in unity who tried to put sanctions on UN to make India poor, by sanctions. mainly since India did N-Test in 1974, the Smiling Buddha, without signing the NPT. the progress of the India since then was without signing the NPT...... :)

many from Indian side claim, the Moscow and Beijing did N-tests with signing the NPT, and hence, supporting the serious crimes of NATO/the P5s against the the developing countries. 👎
and we claim, the country India, who didn't sign the NPT is always more powerful than those who signed the NPT 👍
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The NPT and the Aftermath of India’s Nuclear Test — May 1974​


Operation Smiling Buddha was the assigned code name for India’s first nuclear weapons explosion on May 18th, 1974. India declared that this test was simply a “peaceful nuclear explosion” or PNE, yet it was later discovered that this was actually a part of a nuclear weapons program. The sharp backlash by the international community stemmed in part from the fact that India was not a member of the UN Security Council.

After the first nuclear bomb was exploded by the United States in 1945, other nations – the USSR, Great Britain, France, and China –- soon followed suit and developed their own nuclear weapons capabilities. These five nuclear powers soon realized the potentially devastating effects of nuclear weapons development and pushed for the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) which went into effect in 1970. This treaty ensured that the countries which already have nuclear weapon capabilities would not transfer that technology to non-nuclear nations. However, several nations felt as though this put them at a global disadvantage. India was already wary about its often-strained relationship with China and felt it needed nuclear weapons for its security.

The NPT and the Aftermath of India’s Nuclear Test — May 1974 – Association for Diplomatic Studies & Training

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In his 1988 address to the UN General Assembly, Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi used the term "iron laws" to critique the discriminatory notion that nuclear-weapon states were inherently more responsible than non-nuclear states. He argued that such prejudices were historical fictions used to justify inequality in the international system.

He specifically stated that it was unacceptable for nuclear powers to be free of controls while non-nuclear nations were policed, comparing this to other historical prejudices like the ideas of male or white superiority, or colonialism as a civilizing mission. 👎

In this significant speech, Gandhi challenged the existing nuclear framework and presented an "Action Plan for Ushering in a Nuclear-Weapon Free and Non-Violent World Order" calling for the time-bound, universal, and non-discriminatory elimination of nuclear weapons. He also famously described nuclear deterrence as the "ultimate expression of the philosophy of terrorism".

His address was a strong appeal for global nuclear abolition rooted in non-violence, equality, and shared responsibility. You can find his full statement in the referenced web document.

 
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@Indos
@Yommie
@Beijingwalker

good day gentlemen

how we see SU region/Russia lagging on export side to listed NICs, as per the report of post#1? :coffee:

we certainly don't want 'smoke' of export orders for others countries in India/Iran/Russia/SU region. :coffee:

and hence, how forum members see our home demand based growth in Iran-Russia-India-SU region? as in post#1 ?
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good day
we see so many pictures by Chinese members of their development/industries on different forums.
as below, the Indian billionaire total $950bn while that of China side 'total' is mentioned at around $1,340bn, as below. ☕
how forum members compare India-China for their "Private Industrialists"?

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Ranked: Billionaire Wealth by Country

American billionaires collectively control $5.7 trillion–more than the combined wealth of the next 10 countries.
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Ranked: Billionaire Wealth by Country​


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As of April 2024, Forbes estimates there are over 2,700 billionaires worldwide, with a combined net worth of $14.2 trillion.

But even among the ultra-rich, wealth is far from evenly distributed, with a significant concentration in just a few countries and among a small group of individuals.

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and yes, the Government Industries of Pakistan states why Pakistan was a richer country than India-China both till 1991, continuously since history/since independence,:pakistan:
similar to other non-NATO Government Industries of other countries, and their comparison to these "private industries" 👍
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@Fatman17
@Muji.Iqbal
@hussain0216

As in above post#10, we used to see visitors like Moine Khan/Somi Ali in movies also till 1991, who used to come to "a poorer" country than Pakistan. Pakistan's per capita income was always higher than India till 1991, anytime since our independence. 🕳️

Here, How these open market policy since 1991 helped us have more "life satisfaction rate" than before? it's a question to we all 👍
 
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@Hamartia Antidote
@Viet
@Oscar
@Muji.Iqbal
@Yommie
@Persian Gulf

good day gentlemen
as in above post#23, we dont see any city from the Late-Comers (post#1), than SU, from Korea-Japan-Singapore-Taiwan?

the growth story of India was driven by "Home Demand", less depended on export order, as compared to other Asian Tigers.
here, how we see 4 Chinese cities in top ten of World. with Moscow, we find Two cities of India, which Include New Delhi at number 9, 👍

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Mumbai overtakes Beijing to become Asia's billionaire capital for the first time

Mumbai is now the Asian capital with the most number of billionaires, according to Hurun Research Institute's global rich list.
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