Islamabad Talks - News & Discussions

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Pakistan should step away and let both of these countries to decide.

 

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Iranians on tv blaming Pakistan as mediator. IRGC is terrorist entity with death wish. Either Iran come to table or become Afghanistan. The world will recover in few years of reduced oil/gas but Iran will be irreparably damaged.

blaming on tv while Pakistan is doing utmost to protect iran but what we are getting tis this. iran playing double on tv criticizing and while govt praising

 

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Yes, you are attacking other Muslim countries and killing Muslims in the name of defending yourself. So, you are claiming that if US/Israel destroys Iranian oil infrastructure, then Iran will destroy the infrastructure in Arab countries. That is silly logic reflecting criminal mentality. Instead of hitting back to your enemy, you are hitting your neighboring countries just because that is you can only do. That is a cowardly blackmailing tactic telling the world that we will ruin your economy or else America stops attacking us. Rather than befriending the world community, Iran is declaring a war on the world.


Yes, the Iranian way of the 'actual warfare' is using proxies, terrorism, and blackmail against the neighboring/regional countries and remote enemies. Such rogue policies have resulted in an isolated and disgraced Iran and pushed it into death and destruction that it's facing now.

Your silly claims aside, USA doesn't need the Arab bases to attack Iran. US is as capable of attacking Iran as it was before. God forbid, if war resumes, you'll see Zionist war planes again flying over Iran without facing a real challenge. Yes, they can lose a few jets here and there but that doesn't reduce their military capabilities significantly.


Any sane person will not expect Americans securing Iranian uranium in such an operation. That's simply not possible. And your believing or claiming it so is no more than a delusion.

The only way to 'secure' that uranium is either through negotiations or ground occupation. The latter option can simply be ruled out. Americans have no intention to occupy the Iranian mainland. The former option is achievable only by forcing Iran to get rid of that enriched uranium.

There are potentially two options to achieve that goal; either Iran makes a deal through negotiations with a bargaining position now, or Iran is dictated/imposed those conditions after further military operations. No one probably is in a position to predict how or which way the issue will be resolved.


Again, destroying the infrastructure in neighboring countries just because American companies work there is a rogue behavior that cannot be tolerated by the world community. Violating the sovereignty of other countries and attacking installations in those countries is a serious and grave violation of international laws. The war is between Iran and the US/Israel. Attacking other countries as a tool to pressurize your enemy is neither justified nor legitimate.

Gaza . . . .

 

[mythbuster]

Do you understand how contradictory your post is? On one hand you claim Israel and US does not need permission and on the other you talk about sovereignity. What sovereignity? If you are going to let your airspace to be used to bomb another country, be prepared to get attacked in return. Period!

Who is stopping the Iranians , they should conquer Israel and rest of the middle east , it was their territory during their glorious period.

 

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This guy wrote:

"Pakistan failed again. Yes,Islamabad failed as expected. The ceasefire between great America and the filthy Islamic terrorist regime in Iran may be ending any time. Negotiations have failed. This regime will fall now or later. Make Iran a federal country like the USA and the UAE."


Notice the hate against Islam in the heart of this guy. Says "filthy Islamic terrorist regime". He could have said "filthy terrorist regime". But no, he had to defame islam and associate terrorism with it. You got problems with Iran then keep it that way, why to bring Islam in it.

Unbelievable.

 

[Fatman17]

The status of U.S.-Iran negotiations to end the war in the Middle East was unclear on Wednesday morning, hours after President Trump said he would extend a fragile cease-fire.

Follow live updates: https://trib.al/Cy2ZLl2

 

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This guy wrote:

"Pakistan failed again. Yes,Islamabad failed as expected. The ceasefire between great America and the filthy Islamic terrorist regime in Iran may be ending any time. Negotiations have failed. This regime will fall now or later. Make Iran a federal country like the USA and the UAE."


Notice the hate against Islam in the heart of this guy. Says "filthy Islamic terrorist regime". He could have said "filthy terrorist regime". But no, this zionist with a muslim name had to defame islam and associate terrorism with it. You got problems with Iran then keep it that way, why to bring Islam in it.

Unbelievable.

Exactly.... They are open Munafiqs and proud of it. Little Abu Jahils

 

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Iranians on tv blaming Pakistan as mediator. IRGC is terrorist entity with death wish. Either Iran come to table or become Afghanistan. The world will recover in few years of reduced oil/gas but Iran will be irreparably damaged.

Iranian society is deeply splintered and fractured. You will never find any consensus there over anything, so I wouldn’t take what someone on their TV says too seriously.

Yes, both the US and Iran are behaving like immature children, but Pakistan is doing the right thing trying to find a negotiated settlement, even if it is not succeeding right now.

It is better to try and fail, than to not even try at all.

 

[Master Chief]

blaming on tv while Pakistan is doing utmost to protect iran but what we are getting tis this. iran playing double on tv criticizing and while govt praising

You're reading too much into the punditry here, which is not really an official line. Iran, like any country with functional mass media of any kind, will present a range of opinions for general consumption. What TV anchor X or influencer Y say is of little importance. If Pakistan has any mission to complete in this ongoing circus, it should simply keep its head and play the game.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

It's time Pakistan downgrade the interaction regarding this issue FM AM and PM office should step aside and let foreign office handle it.
FM Asim Munir shouldn't speak to IRANIAN'S directly at all from NOW ON.. HE TRIED AND WE PAKISTANI'S DON'T WANT HIM FURTHER INVOLVED IN THIS. it should be treated as a secondary objective while shifting the focus to finish the job in Afghanistan...
NO MORE TWITTER DIPLOMACY

 

[Yasser76]

It's time Pakistan downgrade the interaction regarding this issue FM AM and PM office should step aside and let foreign office handle it.
FM Asim Munir shouldn't speak to IRANIAN'S directly at all from NOW ON.. HE TRIED AND WE PAKISTANI'S DON'T WANT HIM FURTHER INVOLVED IN THIS. it should be treated as a secondary objective while shifting the focus to finish the job in Afghanistan...

I am in two minds here, agree Iranians seem to be playing games with us, but the consquences of Iran-US war will be really bad for us too. Stakes are so high that I guess we need to keep at it

 

[Himalayan]

blaming on tv while Pakistan is doing utmost to protect iran but what we are getting tis this. iran playing double on tv criticizing and while govt praising

Dialogue collapses with their mutual distrust and in Pakistan mediation, Irans internal change is blocked by IRGC’s primacy; crisis communication breaks down into routine overreaction; so de‑escalation has got no entry point so far.

Unpredictability is a tactical tool, but against US&Israel Iran should play predictable and symmetrical......only then can it neutralize chaos with clarity.

We should stop chasing headlines, lock all parties in a quiet room, and force them to agree on one verifiable step first.

 

[fameen]

I am in two minds here, agree Iranians seem to be playing games with us, but the consquences of Iran-US war will be really bad for us too. Stakes are so high that I guess we need to keep at it

You're right. But they do need to be careful. Even the Field Marshall cannot guarantee Donald Trump will stand by his word. Their leadership is being targeted. When Araghchi declared the Strait open on the FM's suggestion, Trump decided to maintain his blockade. The only way out of this, barring a hugely destructive war the consequences of which will last decades, is with Pakistani intermediation (quietly) supplemented by the Chinese.

 

[ARMalik]

I have full confidence that these talks will produce positive results. Once Pakistan saves the world from US and Iran, Pakistan needs to save itself by taking decisive action against this Jewish Family and their paid minions hell bent on destroying Pakistan citizens.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

I am in two minds here, agree Iranians seem to be playing games with us, but the consquences of Iran-US war will be really bad for us too. Stakes are so high that I guess we need to keep at it

Our only issue was Israeli's being next door..... Well now we are next door to them so really doesn't matter NOW. All PAKISTAN HAVE TO DO IS CONVINCE SAUDI'S AND QATAR FOR NOT ALLOWING US TO ATTACK IRAN FROM THEIR LAND.... AFTER THAT IRAN US UAE AND ISRAEL CAN GO HEAD AND FIGURE OUT WHATEVER THEY WISH...
JUST FINISH THE DAMN JOB IN AFGHANISTAN WHILE TALIBS FUNDING IS LOW AND R IN FULL RETREAT....