Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[Khansaheeb]

Maybe so but kind of hard to resist when your brother next door is working with the occupation to besiege you.

Gaza is a very small enclave, I hope I’m wrong but it is going to turn out worse than what is happening in West Bank.

If the Jews succeed in Gaza they will do the same to West Bank, Lebanon , Syria, Sinai etc, wherever their greater Israel map reaches.

 

[Khansaheeb]

I would agree with you

Except that I fundamentally believe the long term consequences will end in the expulsion of Jews from the middle east

And this Gaza conflict has set things in motion that COULD lead to those consequences


We all love to knock the Arab states, and that's right, they have been gutless
But one of the reasons the Arabs hate hamas is because the Arabs are trying to play smart
They realise in this time, the U.S/west/Jews hold the power, so trying to knock heads with this horrid enemy will lead to death and destruction and will harm their plans especially economic


They see and rightly so the long term victory over the Jews in the expansion of the Palestinian population

And the growth of the population in the surrounding areas

They believe if the Arabs can rise economically, demographically, politically and end their bickering

Then EVENTUALLY the Arab world,. combined with a much younger Palestinian population can just fcuk over the Jews


But at this time your best bet is not give the Jews the justification for genocide and massacre, which is exactly what hamas did


Now regardless of what hamas, did the Arab states could have made a stand, they chose the absolute most cowardly way of standing on the sidelines and letting the Palestinians suffer and the Israeli condemn themselves

Even the Abraham accords, which are shameful
For the Arabs is a way of binding Israeli hands through agreements


The above is why the Arab states are angry at hamas



As it is, the Palestinians have suffered
They have always suffered

But the Israelis have also condemned themselves

The Jews have condemned themselves


Whether it's in the west, in Europe, in U.S, especially amongst the younger population and educated population

Israel has absolutely CONDEMNED itself, and that has consequences

Both the left and right wing have been targeting Israel and the Zionists and Jews have left the fallout and they are worried and upset



Whatever has happened, has happened

Resistance against occupation is the right of all occupied people


It's upto all of us to now keep and build that pressure against the Jews



It is arguable, that Israel would never have allowed a free Palestine

And now with all the death and destruction and build up of anti Israel and Jew anger, that multiple factions are saying that a two state solution is the Only way and are pushing for action


Notable countries have recognised Palestine

Trump won't be in power forever


If we can control the left and make anti-zionism the default

Then even in the U.S democracts will find it difficult to give Israel the support they did in the past


It's why Israel is so desperate to make use of Trump, because they see the writing on the wall



I will say again, I think eventually the Jews will.oay a heavy heavy price for what they have done

The amount of hatred spreading against Israel is incredible, the Germans cleverly egged them on to be hated more than the Nazis.

 

[Unknowntruth]

If the Jews succeed in Gaza they will do the same to West Bank, Lebanon , Syria, Sinai etc, wherever their greater Israel map reaches.

Lebanon will be much harder but they will entrench themselves in South Lebanon. They will not leave until they are forced out.

Israel controls all the borders of West Bank just like Gaza. West Bank is also heavily militarized with settlements all across the West Bank. Towns, cities, villages, etc are surrounded by settlements and military outposts/checkpoints. Everything is controlled by Israel.

Syria is a whole different ball game. It is a big state and Israel does not have the manpower to occupy it nor is Syria blocked off from the rest of the world. It can get weapons and it’s a sovereign state. It shares borders with 4 different countries including Lebanon. It also has a population of like 25 Million. Unlike Gaza and Lebanon, it cannot occupy Syria without large casualties. It also cannot carpet civilians like Gaza and Lebanon because it is a sovereign state with a military. It is not fighting militants who they label as terrorists hiding behind civilians.

I also highly doubt anyone would sit idle if Syria is attacked. I expect intelligence and weapons sent through neighboring countries. It might be in a weak state now because of the civil war but it will one day be strong again.

I believe Syria is a sleeping giant especially if Turkey helps to modernize their military. Main thing is they need to avoid being sanctioned by laying low and working to redevelop and modernize Syria. Turkish support is critical and i fully believe Israel
Is afraid of Turkish influence there.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[bengalcdn]

The moment the US gave blank checks and unlimited 1 ton bombs to the Jews the war on Gaza was declared. The Jews would have done it one way or another, that's the only solution and intent they have. They slaughtered imprisoned people, massacred , tortured , raped and starved because they can, because the cowards who should have acted do the same , the munafiqs who do Sajda do the work of the devil. Spit on the faces of those who shake hands with the Zions.

Brother I agree with your comments but you should refrain from saying “Jews”; there are many Jews such Norman finkkestein, Aron mate, glen greenwald, Jeffry sacks, Dave smith etc who speak out against Israel and Zionism. It’s the Zionist who we should speak against.

 

[bengalcdn]

I would agree with you

Except that I fundamentally believe the long term consequences will end in the expulsion of Jews from the middle east

And this Gaza conflict has set things in motion that COULD lead to those consequences


We all love to knock the Arab states, and that's right, they have been gutless
But one of the reasons the Arabs hate hamas is because the Arabs are trying to play smart
They realise in this time, the U.S/west/Jews hold the power, so trying to knock heads with this horrid enemy will lead to death and destruction and will harm their plans especially economic


They see and rightly so the long term victory over the Jews in the expansion of the Palestinian population

And the growth of the population in the surrounding areas

They believe if the Arabs can rise economically, demographically, politically and end their bickering

Then EVENTUALLY the Arab world,. combined with a much younger Palestinian population can just fcuk over the Jews


But at this time your best bet is not give the Jews the justification for genocide and massacre, which is exactly what hamas did


Now regardless of what hamas, did the Arab states could have made a stand, they chose the absolute most cowardly way of standing on the sidelines and letting the Palestinians suffer and the Israeli condemn themselves

Even the Abraham accords, which are shameful
For the Arabs is a way of binding Israeli hands through agreements


The above is why the Arab states are angry at hamas



As it is, the Palestinians have suffered
They have always suffered

But the Israelis have also condemned themselves

The Jews have condemned themselves


Whether it's in the west, in Europe, in U.S, especially amongst the younger population and educated population

Israel has absolutely CONDEMNED itself, and that has consequences

Both the left and right wing have been targeting Israel and the Zionists and Jews have left the fallout and they are worried and upset



Whatever has happened, has happened

Resistance against occupation is the right of all occupied people


It's upto all of us to now keep and build that pressure against the Jews



It is arguable, that Israel would never have allowed a free Palestine

And now with all the death and destruction and build up of anti Israel and Jew anger, that multiple factions are saying that a two state solution is the Only way and are pushing for action


Notable countries have recognised Palestine

Trump won't be in power forever


If we can control the left and make anti-zionism the default

Then even in the U.S democracts will find it difficult to give Israel the support they did in the past


It's why Israel is so desperate to make use of Trump, because they see the writing on the wall



I will say again, I think eventually the Jews will.oay a heavy heavy price for what they have done

It is not just stated but prophesied

https://www.rizqankareem.com/discus...the-return-of-khilafah-in-al-quds-jerusalemIn
Prophet ﷺ explains how rulership among Muslims will begin after him and go through different stages till Akhiruz Zaman (end of times): “Prophethood will last among you for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will take it away. Then it will be (followed by) a rightly guided caliphate (khilafah rashida) on the pattern of the Prophethood. It will remain for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will take it away. Afterwards there will be a hereditary leadership (Kingdoms) which will remain for as long as Allah wills, then He will lift it if He wishes. Afterwards, there will be biting oppression (our modern times), and it will last for as long as Allah wishes, then He will lift it if He wishes. Then there will be a rightly guided caliphate (khilafah rashida) according to the ways of the Prophethood.’ Then he kept silent.” (Musnad Ahmad) Its important to mention that the last rightly guided era will have a couple of khalifahs and Imam Mahdi will be one of them. In one of the hadith the Prophet ﷺ gave news that there will be twelve khalifahs: "This religion will continue to be strong till the time of twelve khalifahs...All of them will be from Quraysh." (Abu Dawud) According to scholars these include a few from the first rightly guided era like Abu Bakr (r.a), Umar (r.a), Uthman (r.a), Ali (r.a) & Hassan ibn Ali (r.a), and then the remaining khalifahs will be in the last rightly guided era. The Banu Umayyad rulers are not included in these twelve because they were kings.


Allah's Messenger Muhammad ﷺ said “There will always be a party from my Ummah triumphant upon the Truth, victorious over their enemies; there will be no harm from those who oppose them and they will not be harmed until the order of Allah comes and they will be like that [victorious].' They (companions) asked ‘Messenger of Allah! Where are they?’ He replied, “’In Bayt al-Maqdis (Al Aqsa Masjid) and the surrounding areas of Bayt al-Maqdis

 

[hussain0216]

Brother I agree with your comments but you should refrain from saying “Jews”; there are many Jews such Norman finkkestein, Aron mate, glen greenwald, Jeffry sacks, Dave smith etc who speak out against Israel and Zionism. It’s the Zionist who we should speak against.

It can't be helped

The Jews condemned all of themselves, regardless of their position

 

[Fatman17]

EDITORIAL: The Sharm el-Sheikh Gaza summit, held in October, was punctuated by rhetoric about how peace had been won in the Middle East. Donald Trump was being hailed by many as a visionary peacemaker, though more critical observers were of the view that the US president’s Gaza plan was flawed, and tilted towards Israel.

Today, those fears have been confirmed, as the implementation of the Trumpian plan — which was endorsed by the UN Security Council last month — is proving quite difficult. In particular, many of the Arab and Muslim states that had backed the plan are having second thoughts about committing troops to the so-called international stabilisation force. These states, including Pakistan, have started to reconsider their commitments when confronted with the prospect of having to forcefully seize Hamas’s weapons.

Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar was quite clear about Pakistan’s reluctance to confront and disarm Hamas during a presser on Saturday, when he said that this was “not our job”. The visiting Egyptian foreign minister further said, with reference to Gaza, that “our … mandate must be monitoring the ceasefire”.

Read full editorial: https://www.dawn.com/news/1958680

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

حَسْبُنَا اللّٰہُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَکِیْلُ

 

[Fatman17]

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إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

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Very sad

 

[hussain0216]

Fewer and fewer Americans support Israel. Will their next president?

2028 is three long years away, but with criticism of Israel, antisemitism and isolationism rising, US candidates may be turning away from the longtime alliance

www.timesofisrael.com

Interesting article, direct from the enemy Jew

So you know they are worried, and it's our responsibility to work against them, pile on the pressure and call out any inconsistency in policy and actions by those who have supported Israel


Support from AIPAC used to be a badge or honour for American politicians, NOW we must make it a death sentence to any political ambition and during the upcoming election cycles politicians supported by AIPAC or Israel must be targeted and their loyalty bought into question

Left or right, we have a pathway

 

[FuturePAF]

In the face of all that they have experienced in this genocide, the Palestinians still show their determination and hold a mass wedding.

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[Khansaheeb]

I would agree with you

Except that I fundamentally believe the long term consequences will end in the expulsion of Jews from the middle east

And this Gaza conflict has set things in motion that COULD lead to those consequences


We all love to knock the Arab states, and that's right, they have been gutless
But one of the reasons the Arabs hate hamas is because the Arabs are trying to play smart
They realise in this time, the U.S/west/Jews hold the power, so trying to knock heads with this horrid enemy will lead to death and destruction and will harm their plans especially economic


They see and rightly so the long term victory over the Jews in the expansion of the Palestinian population

And the growth of the population in the surrounding areas

They believe if the Arabs can rise economically, demographically, politically and end their bickering

Then EVENTUALLY the Arab world,. combined with a much younger Palestinian population can just fcuk over the Jews


But at this time your best bet is not give the Jews the justification for genocide and massacre, which is exactly what hamas did


Now regardless of what hamas, did the Arab states could have made a stand, they chose the absolute most cowardly way of standing on the sidelines and letting the Palestinians suffer and the Israeli condemn themselves

Even the Abraham accords, which are shameful
For the Arabs is a way of binding Israeli hands through agreements


The above is why the Arab states are angry at hamas



As it is, the Palestinians have suffered
They have always suffered

But the Israelis have also condemned themselves

The Jews have condemned themselves


Whether it's in the west, in Europe, in U.S, especially amongst the younger population and educated population

Israel has absolutely CONDEMNED itself, and that has consequences

Both the left and right wing have been targeting Israel and the Zionists and Jews have left the fallout and they are worried and upset



Whatever has happened, has happened

Resistance against occupation is the right of all occupied people


It's upto all of us to now keep and build that pressure against the Jews



It is arguable, that Israel would never have allowed a free Palestine

And now with all the death and destruction and build up of anti Israel and Jew anger, that multiple factions are saying that a two state solution is the Only way and are pushing for action


Notable countries have recognised Palestine

Trump won't be in power forever


If we can control the left and make anti-zionism the default

Then even in the U.S democracts will find it difficult to give Israel the support they did in the past


It's why Israel is so desperate to make use of Trump, because they see the writing on the wall



I will say again, I think eventually the Jews will.oay a heavy heavy price for what they have done

That's anew spin on the Zion agenda, "don't do anything because the Zions are too powerful" , it's like saying the wolf won't eat you because it has big teeth.