Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

Persian Gulf said:
Hamas movement's senior leader and member of the negotiating delegation, Ghazi Hamad, was martyred today in Rafah along with a group of resistance fighters.

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Israel continues to kill Hamas leaders while Hamas does nothing
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Bro, lets not do this. I know that Falcon guy said some hurtful nonsensical crap but let us not reciprocate. At the end of the day the Palestinian resistance are still our brothers in arms and our allies.
 
ResurgentIran2 said:
Bro, lets not do this. I know that Falcon guy said some hurtful nonsensical crap but let us not reciprocate. At the end of the day the Palestinian resistance are still our brothers in arms and our allies.
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which part of "Israel continues to kill Hamas leaders while Hamas does nothing" is not true? I didn't insult Hamas. I didn't say Hamas leaders are sectarian cowards.
 
Persian Gulf said:
which part of "Israel continues to kill Hamas leaders while Hamas does nothing" is not true? I didn't insult Hamas. I didn't say Hamas leaders are sectarian cowards.
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Yeah I know, but it seemed like some sort of jab.
If it wasnt, there is not much Hamas can do. They are doing their best for themselves and their people in an extremely besieged area.

I just hope we dont fall into the trap of going at each others throats. Its a trap that Falcon user could not avoid and has resorted to emotional outburts and insults towards Iran and its allies.

I just dont think we should stoop to his level.
Anyway, apologies if that is not what you meant. And if was, obviously you are free to do so.
 
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Israel announces that the yellow line is the new border between Israel and Gaza

de facto occupation and annexation of more than 50% of Gaza to Israel... probably lost forever.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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Israel announces that the yellow line is the new border between Israel and Gaza

de facto occupation and annexation of more than 50% of Gaza to Israel... probably lost forever.
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Muzlimz agreed with this in Egypt Conference and in UN.
 
The Israeli army announces targeting 4 resistance fighters as they emerged from a tunnel in Rafah.

What is happening to the resistance fighters in Rafah is a tragedy.

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these fighters appear to have been abandoned by the Hamas leadership
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Muzlimz agreed with this in Egypt Conference and in UN.
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You sure? I thought Muslim states and UN are demanding ceasefire, withrawal of Israeli troops, one Palestinian government in Gaza and WestBank, Muslim/UN peace keeping force will be sent, recognition of Palestinian state pre 1967 borders, rebuilt of Gaza. Any demand less than this is complete betrayal, the half betrayal is recognising Israel and jumping in bed with them.
 
PakAl said:
You sure? I thought Muslim states and UN are demanding ceasefire, withrawal of Israeli troops, one Palestinian government in Gaza and WestBank, Muslim/UN peace keeping force will be sent, recognition of Palestinian state pre 1967 borders, rebuilt of Gaza. Any demand less than this is complete betrayal, the half betrayal is recognising Israel and jumping in bed with them.
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Muslims knew they are giving green light to Israel for further aggression. They agreed with a fake ceasefire and fake withdrawal. They made deals with murderers and took selfies with trump. This is the result.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Muslims knew they are giving green light to Israel for further aggression. They agreed with a fake ceasefire and fake withdrawal. They made deals with murderers and took selfies with trump. This is the result.
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If you want my take, its the rich arab states who don't care about Gaza, they are desperate to normalise relations with Israel, they all hate Hamas and think of them as terorrists. They want puppet like Jolani ISIS in power who talks all religious to fool the public but behind the scenes is willing to deal with the western led order. Yes they may want Palestine state if given but don't really care. The rest of the Muslims cannot do much, they will follow what the Arabs want. Today alot of young Arabs want better relations with the west and Israel, I say good luck to them. Israel game is and has always been to capture more terrority, the whole world knows this. As stated by Gaddafi a long time ago.

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PakAl said:
If you want my take, its the rich arab states who don't care about Gaza, they are desperate to normalise relations with Israel, they all hate Hamas and think of them as terorrists. They want puppet like Jolani ISIS in power who talks all religious to fool the public but behind the scenes is willing to deal with the western led order. Yes they may want Palestine state if given but don't really care. The rest of the Muslims cannot do much, they will follow what the Arabs want. Today alot of young Arabs want better relations with the west and Israel, I say good luck to them. Israel game is and has always been to capture more terrority, the whole world knows this. As stated by Gaddafi a long time ago.

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But if this line of thinking continues, they too will be destroyed by Zionism. If you analyze the colonization of the native Indians in North America, the British colonizers allowed some Indians to cooperate with the colonization of the region in exchange for status and wealth. In the end, after most of the native Indians were killed and the place exploited, these rich "Indians" were killed and their wealth taken back.

That's what will happen to monarchies that are puppets.
 
Persian Gulf said:
Hamas movement's senior leader and member of the negotiating delegation, Ghazi Hamad, was martyred today in Rafah along with a group of resistance fighters.

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Israel continues to kill Hamas leaders while Hamas does nothing
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What do you expect Hamas to do?
 
Bharatah said:
But if this line of thinking continues, they too will be destroyed by Zionism. If you analyze the colonization of the native Indians in North America, the British colonizers allowed some Indians to cooperate with the colonization of the region in exchange for status and wealth. In the end, after most of the native Indians were killed and the place exploited, these rich "Indians" were killed and their wealth taken back.

That's what will happen to monarchies that are puppets.
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That is not how they think, they believe and are the biggest allies and collaborators of the western led world order, it all started when they collaborated with Britain to oppose the Ottomans, slowly over the decades finished off the Ottomans, called them occupierd and used propaganda against them. The Ottomans were then replaced by those who are allies of the west and till today are allies. For them Palestine is tiny, its okay to sacrifice for continued economic and military cooperation, they love their oil wealth and toys. In return they use their wealth to control the Muslim world, cause chaos in those nations who are anti West or even slightly independent with their policies. Ofcourse being on world stage rocks their boat too. This relationship has continued for over 1 century but normal Muslim population fails to see it, today finally it has been exposed but now billions upon billions are being spent in order for Muslim youth to see the light at the end of tunnel, which is to see the benefit of working with the west. Look at how people are praising Jolani, how he is cleverly working with the west to uproot Syria and the rest, like he is some saviour, although its pretty obvious how he came to power, how he was used and armed by the west. Syria will get better no doubt but it will never ever be anti Israel like before. The Arabs are happy so good for them.

Muslims cannot help Palestinians without the Arabs, and if Arabs are willing to work with Israel then outsiders should have no issues. As arab nationalists on PDF say "We have 600M population, the biggest armies and airforce, the biggest wealth, the biggest economies"
 
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Israel announces that the yellow line is the new border between Israel and Gaza

de facto occupation and annexation of more than 50% of Gaza to Israel... probably lost forever.
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It was a terrible deal but they had no choice. A small enclave that is under siege where food and aid was even cut off to even get any weapons.

Only so much you can due under starvation with light weapons being carpet bombed all day and night. Lebanon and Gaza both are in bad shape right now. Israel can freely kill as it wishes and if any retaliation occurs then Lebanon and Gaza will be carpet bombed with impunity. Ceasefire is not for israel evidently. International law is for weak nations. If you need to go the UN, ICC or whatever for help then just know you are already fucked.

Complete failure by the entire Muslim world. All of them are a bunch of weak nations or both weak and cowardly.
 
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