Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[Pakistan Space Agency]

The entire NATO bloc, with its 32 countries, is confronting Russia alone, yet it has still lost large amounts of territory. Is that really something to be proud of?

When did any NATO member lose its territory to Russia?

I do recall the Soviet Union breaking up into 15 countries.

If it isn't garbage, what is it, then?

Go on. Tell us why everyone wants to join NATO and not a single country wants to join Russia?

 

[东风夜放花千树]

My prediction is that soon Türkiye will be thrown out of NATO, or, in case of war, NATO won't come to help Türkiye.

I don't think this viewpoint needs predicting.

Russia has broken through NATO countries multiple times.

NATO hasn't openly gone to war with Russia so far.

NATO is the US's NATO, not a NATO that belongs to all NATO countries together.

 

[royalharris]

When did any NATO member lose its territory to Russia?

I do recall the Soviet Union breaking up into 15 countries.

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Go on. Tell us why everyone wants to join NATO and not a single country wants to join Russia?

Ants need to stick together for survival
an elephant has no need to befriend ants.

Haven't you noticed? Even the United States doesn't want to play along with that bunch of trash in NATO anymore.

 

[Falcon26]

NATO will join the war to subdue Turkey if Israel ever goes to war with Turkey.

Turkey’s NATO membership is as credible as Pakistan’s major Non-NATO ally designation. At least 3 NATO powers have already sanctioned Turkey.

 

[royalharris]

The United States first proposed the G2, meaning the U.S. and China. After China rejected the G2, the U.S. then proposed the C5, including the United States, China, Russia, India, and Japan.
Where is there a single piece of NATO trash in that group?NATO is just a bunch of cheerleaders; it is not important at all.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

I hate wars but defence enthusiastic inside me would like to see a full fledged war between 2 regional powers Israel and Turkiye....

Indians have always hoped for chaos in the world, then profit from the countries at war. A despicable mindset, one that is anti-human. It seems now that Pakistan hasn’t tamed India. Maybe next time in a war, the Pakistani army shouldn’t hold back.

Americans, Israelis, and Indians are the reason this world can’t have peace.

 

[lightning f57]

Whatever the truth, Türkiye look eastward is a good balkwark against the zionist genociders.

Id like to see a politically and militarty aligned block of Türkiye, SA, Pak and Qatar, with all countries that host US bases reducing that footprint.

Then once this block matures, and neighbourly relations strengthen to include Egypt and Iran.

Forget Israelis, no one will mess with such a block.

 

[Musings]

I hate wars but defence enthusiastic inside me would like to see a full fledged war between 2 regional powers Israel and Turkiye....

Here gentleman is an Indian who openly admits he would like to see a full fledged war. This really is an Indian mindset - doesnt matter of the millions of lives that would be lost or devastated - to satisfy his “enthusiasm”.
Thank the lord we aint indian - thanks Jinnah

 

[SecularNationalist]

Well Turks are a great warrior race with marvellous history. But in recent decades they are westernized cucks with zero to no real battle experience. Don't know how the war of isreal will pan out for Turkey. They shot themselves in the foot by joining NATO.

 

[Yasser76]

Here gentleman is an Indian who openly admits he would like to see a full fledged war. This really is an Indian mindset - doesnt matter of the millions of lives that would be lost or devastated - to satisfy his “enthusiasm”.
Thank the lord we aint indian - thanks Jinnah

Bro, do we really need toxic shit like this Paj on this forum? All for free speech but...

 

[That_Guy]

Netanyahu wants war to stay in power, and not end up in prison.

 

[Pakistan First]

Well it hasn't failed yet, instead it has expanded to include 32 countries.

If Pakistan makes an alliance and add Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka, Afghanistan and many more such countries. Would it make an effective alliance? Or a burden to protect more territory that cannot be defended by themselves?

The recent additions to NATO are not adding anything to the table. Out of 32 countries, most are microscopic armies. Atleast 24 countries if leave NATO today wouldn't even dent NATO overall strength by 1%

 

[Ali_Baba]

Netanyahu wants war to stay in power, and not end up in prison.

Lebanon is covered by Iran right now. Jordan? Too useful for the USA to beat up just yet by Israel(though it's day is coming)(. Egypt, a bit too big given Israel's weapons stockpile issues right now, same with Turkieye.

So, I do think when the next war comes(and it will be soon), it will be Syria to "protect the Druze" etc ( Imho). Israel did try and provoke Syria a few days ago by taking more land and setting up new checkpoints.

Netanyahu needs another war, soon. Let's see - just my working theory.

 

[Pakistan First]

Do you believe Turkiye is that weak and powerless that it cannot take on tiny Israel on its own, or that Israel can easily intimidate Turkiye?

No, I meant whole purpose of NATO is to consider an attack on one country as attack on whole. So if Israel attacks Turkey and NATO do not retaliate, then whole purpose fails. Who would trust such an alliance then ? Already US is saying that NATO is a paper tiger.

Secondly, if you see rationally Israel can do enormous damage to Turkey in a surprise attack. Can eliminate its civil/mil leadership, destroy / disable a lot of airbases, lot of naval bases etc. Even if some Turkish fighter jets survive and get airborne then what chances they have against F-35s ? Even Israeli F-16s have much longer stick then Turkish counterparts.

In retaliation Turkey can throw some BMs but Israeli air defense would intercept most. Turkey has not built massive number of BMs like Iran. Turkey also haven't prepared for this kind of war. It relies on traditional / legacy systems. Do Turkey have as many underground missile bases as Iran ? Certainly not. Do you think slow moving turkish drones are any threat to Israel at all? Turkey don't even have a 4.5 gen fighter aircraft at the moment.

So yes, Turkey might need NATO and even if it needs or don't need, the real test of NATO would be to assist its ally versus Israel and that will not happen. Anyways, this whole talk was based on hypothetical scenario that Israel would attack Turkey. I don't think so. They have trade relations and bilateral diplomatic relations. Turkey is NATO and NATO is already an ally of Israel. I see no war between turkey and Israel. no war between Egypt and Israel too.

 

[BHAN85]

Netanyahu wants war to stay in power, and not end up in prison.

One man can't order something to a whole state against whole state will.