Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[Dalit]

Lebanon and Iran have shown that Israel is not so ahead militarily. Both Iran and Lebanese based groups are relatively ill equipped and they have put a lot of pause on the US and Israel.

Proper militaries like Turkey's would obliterate Israel very quickly and force nuclear use by Israel. This is why neither side will accidentally go to war without a lot of thinking and planning ahead for every consequence.

KSA + Pakistan + Turkey would indeed be quite an alliance and geographically well positioned. It by default counters Israel but Israel has quite an ability to get politicians and use underhanded tactics to win favour and manipulate narratives and directions.

Sunni axis may have the nukes, the oil, the money, the industries, the talent. Will it have such an infallible political elite to resist the West and Israel? No alliance of nations has ever pulled this off. Even individual nations acting in their best interest often fail to pull this off. The allure is too strong.

It is very potent and hence Israeli concern. Nevertheless, these countries must unite and start cooperating very firmly in their own best interest.

 

[MMM-E]

USA, The UK, France even Jordon , S.Arabia helped Israel to stop Iranian Missiles and kamikaze Drones


this time nobody will help Israel against Turkiye .. even GOD can not save tiny Israel


1 -- 15.000 Turkish long range kamikaze Drones to destroy Israeli Air Defense Systems

2 -- another 2.000 K-2 and MIZRAK kamikaze Drones to destroy defenseless Israeli airbases including Fighter Jets on the ground

3 -- TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles with 1 tonne WRATH thermobaric warhead to destroy defenseless Israeli airbases including Fighter Jets on the ground



also , SOM and ATMACA-UM Cruise Missile attack will come from the eastern MEDİTERRANEAN 3 - 5 m over sea

Israili cities Haifa and Telaviv are locating at sea level and their radars cannot detect missiles and kamikaze drones approaching from a low altitude of 3 - 5 meters in early detection



just 500 km distance from Turkiye to Israel ... Israeli air defenses will be busy to stop 15.000 kamikaze drones


Turkish Navy and Air Force also KORAL-2OO Radar ew Systems , ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft , E-7T AEWCs and S400 , SIPER AD Systems to block the Eastern Mediterranean



Within minutes of starting an Israeli attack, Israel is forced to defend in a chaotic manner.

 

[maverick]

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Brothers from Egypt and Türkiye, please listen to it. Especially watch the clips of Israeli politicians, religious leaders, and academics building the case against you. It's time for Pakistan, Turkiye, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia to sign a defense pact immediately.

Has Israel gone suicidal? they cannot fight Either Egypt or Turkey unless they start using Nukes.

 

[Dalit]

Yes this is well and good and it certainly deters Israel and the West from performing direct military actions and makes it extremely difficult to deploy heavy handed economic and trade actions against this group but this is exactly how Israel and the West is skilled.

It doesn't target where you are strong.

It won't engage such a "Sunni Axis" with military and overt pressure. It will bribe politicians, engage in decades long propaganda campaigns (just like with China), fund various groups. To that non stop for decades to weaken the alliance and individual nations.

Precisely. These countries need an ironclad pact that firmly upholds these guarantees. Pakistan, Türkiye and Saudi Arabia can freely pursue individual ties with Western nations, but this overarching mutual agreement must always take precedence. While modelled after the ASEAN bloc, this Sunni alliance must go one step further by anchoring itself in a unified defence pact.

Israel is making a lot of noise about this axis, but only time will tell how serious these countries are in pushing forward such a pact. Israeli opposition to the Sunni axis will be the guage in the coming months and years.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye can turn Israel into dark age even without attack

in a large scale of war , No aid, weapons, medicine, food, or fuel can reach Israel via the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkish Navy , Air Force and Missiles - kamikaze Drones to destroy all Ships in the Eastern Mediterranean who helps Israel

also Turkiye to block horn of Africa via Somalia and Sudan , nothing can reach Israel

 

[PakistanLVR]

With people like this in Iran, it's no wonder Iranian scientists and leaders have been hunted down, bombed, and killed one after another, as if they were livestock.
People with such a mindset don't deserve to exist.

if you're referring to @Lulldapull he's not Iranian. Just a very misinformed Pakistani with a severe lack of how realpolitik works

 

[PakistanLVR]

Turkiye can turn Israel into dark age even without attack

in a large scale of war , No aid, weapons, medicine, food, or fuel can reach Israel via the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkish Navy , Air Force and Missiles - kamikaze Drones to destroy all Ships in the Eastern Mediterranean who helps Israel

also Turkiye to block horn of Africa via Somalia and Sudan , nothing can reach Israel

Using Iranian strategy of A2D2 in the Persian Gulf with Turkish weapons will be very potent. Having quality allies with modern weapons like Iran has in the region will offset having to send a lot of soldiers to defend unfamiliar lands when the regional allies can do it.

As a matter of fact, get the Russians out of the Eastern Meds too. The Wes allows the Russians who can then control their local allies ie Assad etc and then undercut the Muslims. The Russians have flooded the Middle East. They have been capturing Islamic lands since the 1600s.

 

[MMM-E]

Using Iranian strategy of A2D2 in the Persian Gulf with Turkish weapons will be very potent. Having quality allies with modern weapons like Iran has in the region will offset having to send a lot of soldiers to defend unfamiliar lands when the regional allies can do it.

Nothing can survive in the Eastern Mediterranean ..

500+ UCAVs armed with 2.000+ guided munitions with range of 100,150,280,500 km

Turkish Missiles can block the Eastern Mediterranean

S400s and SIPER Air Defense Sysstems can block the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkish Air Force and Navy also will be in action



Turkiye has great technologies including unmanned combat Submarines - unmanned combat vessels and unmanned kamikaze Vessels


A new war concept from Turkiye
These systems aim to enable asymmetric naval warfare: launching swarms of low-cost, hard-to-detect attackers against higher-value enemy Ships

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KILIC-200 Kamikaze Autonomous Underwater Vehicle
long range, unmanned and expendable underwater system designed to detect, track and neutralize maritime targets such as subsea/surface platforms.

System Features
• 100 nm Mission Range (200 nm with Extra Battery)
• 350 cm Length
• 32,4 cm Diameter
• Integrated Warhead
• Satellite Communication


TUFAN Kamikaze Unmanned Surface Vehicle (USV)
capable of carrying an insensitive high-explosive warhead, conducting swarm-based operations, and equipped with advanced situational awareness and autonomous mission capabilities

Technical Features
• Length : 8 m
• Max. Speed : 50 kts
• Operational Range : 200 nm

General Features
• High Speed and Maneuverability
• Low Radar Cross Section (RCS) and Thermal Signature
• Flexible and Enlarged Swarm Formations


Turkiye to produce hundreds of kamikaze Vessels to destroy enemy fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean

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DATUM's Multi-purpose Mini Submarine CAMD
Some of these capabilities include laying 12 Malaman mines, deploying 2 AKYA and 6 ORKA Torpedoes

-- gathering intelligence by surface-based deployments using Aselsan Mercan electro-optical sensors

-- conducting mine countermeasures operations with Meteksan's synthetic aperture sonar and ROV

-- carrying out attacks on sea, land, and air targets with Roketsan's ATMACA and CAKIR missiles, and TÜBİTAK's GEZGIN and GOKDOGAN Missiles.


The 12-meter-long platform is designed to dive to depths of over 300 m and can reach speeds of up to 10 knots.



SINARIT XLUUV ( Large-Scale Unmanned Underwater Vehicle )

The SINARIT Modular Payload Unmanned Underwater Vehicle project, a highly advanced example of Large Scale Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (XLUUVs) representing the cutting edge of underwater technology worldwide in recent years, forms the backbone of the unmanned component of these studies.



This family enables mass production potentia lower costs, and distributed operations. In a conflict (Aegean or Eastern Mediterranean), dozens could overwhelm traditional defenses through swarming, special ops, mine-laying, and strikes on high-value targets.

Good luck to enemies , They will need it

 

[Yasser76]

Banned 3 months ago, still lurking. "We Indians dont care what you think!" Poor little Paj

 

[Ravenman]

My prediction is that soon Türkiye will be thrown out of NATO, or, in case of war, NATO won't come to help Türkiye.

Wrong. You cant be thrown out of NATO.

The most plausible theorry is that the US will leave NATO and then attack Turkey.

And there is no NATO member that can help Turkey against the USA.

 

[Dalit]

Banned 3 months ago, still lurking. "We Indians dont care what you think!" Poor little Paj
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"Saaar, Giljit Baltijtan belangs to madar Hindujtan!"

 

[Zarvan]

Turkiye, Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia should immediately form a military alliance. Turkiye will be making the biggest mistake if it believes that it can stay in the NATO alliance and that would save it from Israel. The military alliance of Muslim countries is the need of the hour.

 

[Ravenman]

I said this for years and now i am saying it again: a holy alliance between Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and Iran/Saudi Arabia is the only way to stop these bastards.

With Trump you can talk at least but we dont know who will be the next POTUS.

Their plan is to bomb the muslim nations one by one into submission.

Irak, Libya and Syria are lost.

Now they are attacking Palestine, Lebanon and Iran.

Next round could be Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.

If they succeed than you have only Algeria, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia left.

 

[Zarvan]

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Netanyahu: "Erdoğan is talking about wanting to destroy Israel and recapture Jerusalem. I think he forgot that the Ottomans' 400-year rule has come to an end. Today, there is a strong State of Israel. We will not allow anyone to threaten our existence or security. I also think we've shown what we're capable of."

 

[Pakistan First]

If Turkiye comes under attack like this, then the next thing you will see about 15 Million armed to death Turks

Bro, 15 million ?? and How they will march ? like on foot? or in convoy of trucks ? through which route? and what weapons they will carry?

Bro, this is not the age of swords and spears where massive armies just can march long distances. Enemy will evaporate such concentration of forces.



Before any such massive march. Israeli airforce needs to be destroyed. So how we assume that Turks will achieve that? Turks have american made 4th gen fighters in their airforce. Israelis have 5th gen aircrafts and 4.5 gen fighters and they got access to latest weapons of the US. Israelis certainly have massive edge in any air to air campaign. If Pakistan helps turkey then perhaps it can make a difference as PAF has 4.5 gen fighters with much longer range 200 km proven next gen bvr missiles. But still stealth advantage would be huge and I am assuming PAF is not present. and its only Turkey vs Israel. So turkish airforce would have no chance in air to air combat. Now what if Turkey fire ballistic missiles towards Israeli airbases. Then we all know Israel has world's best air defense which intercepts most of missiles. Question is whether Turkish ballistic missiles can outlast / outnumber israeli interceptors ? Do turkey has built as many missiles and missile bases as Iran ? I don't think so. Iran prepared for such a war for decades.

Lastly, again I would say this whole talk is just rhetorical and based on hypothetical scenario that if Israel attacks Turkey. I don't think this would happen in reality. Both countries have very good trade relations. Both enjoys diplomatic relations, Turkey is a NATO country. NATO and Israel are both at the same side.