Speaking of facts, can you share the logistics of how IDAF F-35's were able to operate with impunity inside Iranian airspace. The vanila F-35's range is 650 nm, barely enough to get to the Iranian border. Did they get to the border and launch their SOW's and headed back or did they actually penetrate Iranian airspace and spend some time over Iranian territory and then launched the air to ground weapons.
Did they peruse the air refueler at any point in this operation? If so, where exactly and if over hostile territory why wasn't the tanker at least detected and shot down over hostile territory?
Let's have a look at the map:
The US has crippled Iraqi defenses in war (Operation Iraqi Freedom), and Israel has crippled Syrian defenses in war (Operation Chess). Both Russia and Iran attempted to improve Syrian defenses and defeat Syrian rebels but failed.
Iran and Israel have long been engaged in the so-called “campaign between wars,” in which both have engaged in covert strikes and proxy warfare. After Hamas’s attack on Israel on October 7, 2023, the campaign between wars escalated. The subsequent months saw a series of high-profile assassinations by Israel targeting key figures in the so-called Resistance Axis, Iran’s network of non-state allies and proxies, as well as senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders. These actions brought the conflict between Iran and Israel out of the shadows and into open confrontation.
After Israel’s bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus last April, Iran’s response marked Iran’s first direct military strike against Israel from its own territory. This was intended to establish a new equation in the conflict—one in which Israeli actions against Iranian interests would be met with Iranian military retaliation. Yet, despite the scale of the operation, Israeli strikes continued in the following months, including strikes against Iranian interests in Syria and the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran. The assassination of Hezbollah’s secretary general Hassan Nasrallah and IRGC brigadier general Abbas Nilforoushan on September 27 dealt a significant blow to Iran’s alliance network, demonstrating that the deterrence sought by Iran had not materialized as planned. -
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The orange highlight = Israeli Operation Chess in Syria.
I have shed some light on these developments independently in relevant threads before (see
this,
this,
this and
this).
With limited warning, Tehran launched its second direct attack against Israel on October 1. This marked a stark departure from the April operation in both its execution and scale. Unlike the earlier strike, which employed a mix of ballistic missiles, drones, and cruise missiles, the October attack was conducted exclusively with ballistic missiles, which was likely intended to reduce advance detection and limit the effectiveness of Israel’s defenses.
In a video statement immediately following the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to exact reprisals, stating, “Iran made a big mistake tonight—and it will pay for it.” Although Israel initially considered a stronger response, targeting high-value sites such as nuclear or energy infrastructure, the plan was recalibrated due to U.S. pressure to avoid escalation. Additionally, the U.S. deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) was potentially an incentive for Israel to focus its retaliation primarily on military sites, while adding a layer of defense in anticipation of Iranian retaliation.
Prior to the Israeli attack, Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi launched a diplomatic mission to rally regional support against allowing Israel’s use of neighboring airspace. Araghchi’s outreach included Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, Oman, Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey, including states with traditionally tense relations with Iran, such as Jordan, Egypt, and Bahrain. Though Israel notably avoided Jordanian and Saudi airspace, Iran’s diplomatic outreach ultimately could not prevent an Israeli response.
In its strikes of October 26, Israel claimed to have used over 100 aircraft, including advanced F-15 and F-35 jets. Flying over 2,000 kilometers from Israel, these aircraft allegedly launched air launched ballistic missiles, which are much more challenging than surface-to-surface ballistic missiles for air defenses to intercept. -
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Israeli Air Force could refuel its jet fighters mid-air above Syria or Iraq before reaching Iran. F-35 also have internal fuel tanks and its true range might be classified. Therefore, Lockheed Martin's disclosure is realistic and
British intelligence has pointed out the same. Israel is unlikely to declassify this operation for public analysis anytime soon but GCC intelligence have also disclosed that Israel has probed Iranian defenses before these strikes.
Now I have a question for you: Does Iran have an Air Force that could intercept Israeli Air Force over Syria or Iraq?
He believes in US weapons more than the actual Americans on this forum. Look at his posting history over the years.
Dear, I pointed out some technical aspects of the F-35 to you in
following post. However, you have emotional claims in every thread and do not seem to learn. I have a realistic take on all themes and my analysis is usually spot on. Here are your facts:
1. Israeli army wiped out in Gaza.
2. Israeli army wiped out at the border of Lebanon.
3. Tel Aviv has fallen and Bibi is captured by Hezbollah.
4. Israel never attacked Iran.
5. Assad setup rules Syria.
6. Houthi sunk American Navy.
why would Israel share details of its sensitive military missions with LM? and LM obviously has a direct financial interest in propagating narratives that exaggerate the abilities of the F-35.
F-35 is indeed the most advanced fighter jet in the world but when Israel has stand off munitions it doesn't make sense to risk these jets inside Iranian airspace. I concede Israel has great intelligence and awareness of weak spots in Iranian IADs but there is no evidence for this claim
Lockheed Martin has often shed light on the performance of its products in military operations. Lockheed Martin has direct feedback from customers because it is crucial for improving its solutions. There is also information sharing among F-35 partners.
The British were providing F-35 parts to Israel and
British intelligence has pointed out the same.
