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Will ISRAEL lose Its ‘Numero Uno’ spot as The Most Powerful Air Force In The Middle-East ?

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Maybe Israel's air force is sitting duck for Egypt.. read about Resonance-NE radar..

The problem is with the US not Israel per se..
so,your Resonance -NE radar will shoot down israeli jets??your airforce is not capable of fighting against israel.your airforce is not equipped with proper aam,som to fight and win against israel.same with turkey too.their future is better than egyptian as they have their own industry to produce fighters.
 

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so,your Resonance -NE radar will shoot down israeli jets??your airforce is not capable of fighting against israel.your airforce is not equipped with proper aam,som to fight and win against israel.same with turkey too.their future is better than egyptian as they have their own industry to produce fighters.

Not only Fighters
but also S band AESA Radars 700+ km ALP-300G and 150-250 km SIPER Air Defense System to detect F-35 from long distance and shoot down
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Turkish Ballistic-Cruise Missiles and long range Kamikaze Drones
-- 500 km KARA-ATMACA land based Cruise Missile
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN land based Cruise Missile
-- 560+ km TAYFUN Ballistic Missile
-- 1.000+ km CENK Ballistic Missile
-- 280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 700 km SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Kamikaze Drone
-- 800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone
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4 Stealth Platforms on the way
Upcoming KIZILELMA and ANKA-4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets easly can turn Israeli F-15s and F-16s into scrap of metal in BVR combat

Also ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Bomber for deep strike and SEAD-DEAD role

Also KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jets on the way

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and 270+ F-16 Block70 with AESA Radar and armed with 160-200 km Air to Air Missiles
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4 HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer Aircraft to jam and paralyze enemy Radars and communications
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4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km L band AESA Radar
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Israel can match with only Arab Countries

Israel is not threat to Turkiye ... and Iran is sneaky enemy to Turkiye

A conflict between Turkiye and Iran is more likely
 

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Not only Fighters
but also S band AESA Radars 700+ km ALP-300G and 150-250 km SIPER Air Defense System to detect F-35 from long distance and shoot down
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Mate, you can type these theories all the time but they are not established. Have you seen these technologies in action against F-35? F-35 is well-equipped to absorb and deflect radar waves and it is also equipped with some of the best Electronic Warfare technology out there. F-35 can also detect and engage "missiles" - imagine this. And no Air Force sends a single F-35 to do its job, it will be a squadron. You speak in very black-and-white terms and make it sound like as if everything is easy to counter. You need to see real combat for a change, those cozy exhibitions are very instructive.
 
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Maybe Israel's air force is sitting duck for Egypt.. read about Resonance-NE radar..

The problem is with the US not Israel per se..
Russian forces created a network of an S-400 system, an S-300 system, and Nebo-M technology to protect Syrian airports and military bases from airborne threats.

But:




US (and Israel) did not attack Russian forces in Syria but both showed to Russians that their tech is beaten.

I won't expand on possibilities of Egypt but Israel is very likely to attack and destroy that Resonance-NE radar in a hypothetical conflict. It is a big juicy target in itself.
 
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Mate, you can type these theories all the time but they are not established. Have you seen these technologies in action against F-35? F-35 is well-equipped to absorb and deflect radar waves and it is also equipped with some of the best Electronic Warfare technology out there. F-35 can also detect and engage "missiles" - imagine this. And no Air Force sends a single F-35 to do its job, it will be a squadron. You speak in very black-and-white terms and make it sound like as if everything is easy to counter. You need to see real combat for a change, those cozy exhibitions are very instructive.

Then F-35 is also theory ... except American-Israeli fairly tales
We have never seen F-35 action against these technologies too
We will see what will happen ... dont worry
just for 3-5 years
 
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Then F-35 is also theory ... except American-Israeli fairly tales
We never seen F-35 action against these technologies too
We will see what will happen ... dont worry

War in Syria and its developments are all theory. (y)
 

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War in Syria and its developments are all theory. (y)

These technologies never used in Syria
F-35 is a theory too
and never forget about stealth F-117 which was shot down by outdated S-125 in Serbia


Even Passive Radars can detect F-35s
Also Quantum Radar under development
and ALP-300G S band AESA Radar is ready now to detect low RCS targets from long distan
 

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KAAN having almost same capability with the F-35 in head to head engagement



KAAN with advanced magnetic coating and RAM panel layer it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.0030 m2 [ -25dbsqm ]

Also KAAN has IRST could perform a contribution to engage to F-35 beyond the 34 km
Because single Engine F-35 with a very high heat signature ( turbine inlet temperature of 1980 °C )

BVR Combat Engagement
F-35 = 37km
KAAN = 34km
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KAAN can detect the location of the F-35 over the Eastern Mediterranean from several Turkish U/VHF and S band radars with longer wavelengths.


Comparison of generator powers of some Fighter Jets
▪︎ KAAN: 2x125Kw .... 250 kw (developed by Turkish company VOLT )
▪︎ F35:3x80Kw .... 240 kw
▪︎ F22: 2x65Kw ... 130 kw
▪︎ KF-21: 2x65Kw .. 130 kw ... (Collins aerospace from USA)

250 kw generators will help KAAN to generate electricity to power the powerful AESA Radar
( 40 kw Aselsan BURFIS with 2.000+ GaN T/R modules )
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DOGFİGHT
in Dogfight , bulky F-35 can not survive against KAAN airsuperiority Fighter
 
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Dec 18, 2023
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Not only Fighters
but also S band AESA Radars 700+ km ALP-300G and 150-250 km SIPER Air Defense System to detect F-35 from long distance and shoot down
View attachment 47407


Turkish Ballistic-Cruise Missiles and long range Kamikaze Drones
-- 500 km KARA-ATMACA land based Cruise Missile
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN land based Cruise Missile
-- 560+ km TAYFUN Ballistic Missile
-- 1.000+ km CENK Ballistic Missile
-- 280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 700 km SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Kamikaze Drone
-- 800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone
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4 Stealth Platforms on the way
Upcoming KIZILELMA and ANKA-4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets easly can turn Israeli F-15s and F-16s into scrap of metal in BVR combat

Also ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Bomber for deep strike and SEAD-DEAD role

Also KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jets on the way

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and 270+ F-16 Block70 with AESA Radar and armed with 160-200 km Air to Air Missiles
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4 HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer Aircraft to jam and paralyze enemy Radars and communications
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4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km L band AESA Radar
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Israel can match with only Arab Countries

Israel is not threat to Turkiye ... and Iran is sneaky enemy to Turkiye

A conflict between Turkiye and Iran is more likely
Bro.it seems like you're very passionate about your country.that's good.don’t be so blind.what you're showing is already done by other powers such as russia,china.but look at the combat record of s-400 in syria against F-35.come to reality bro.
 

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Bro.it seems like you're very passionate about your country.that's good.don’t be so blind.what you're showing is already done by other powers such as russia,china.but look at the combat record of s-400 in syria against F-35.come to reality bro.

And it seems like you are very passionate about Israel while you are not neither American non Israeli


Reality
Russia never used S400s in Syria against Israel

and I am not talking about S400s here or Russia -China

I am talking about Turkish weapons SIPER , ALP-300G , KAAN , ANKA-3/4 , KIZILELMA , HAVASOJ , etc

Tactical air combat concept ..... only Turkiye in the region
Israel only can dream about this concept .... only F-35 nothing else
and F-35 is not allien technology
 
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Russian forces created a network of an S-400 system, an S-300 system, and Nebo-M technology to protect Syrian airports and military bases from airborne threats.

But:




US (and Israel) did not attack Russian forces in Syria but both showed to Russians that their tech is beaten.

I won't expand on possibilities of Egypt but Israel is very likely to attack and destroy that Resonance-NE radar in a hypothetical conflict. It is a big juicy target in itself.
Only the Russian old tech is used by the Syrians,, Russian tech to protect the Russian in Syria hasn't been engaged..
 

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Only the Russian old tech is used by the Syrians,, Russian tech to protect the Russian in Syria hasn't been engaged..

Egypt has Russian Radar to detect F-35 from 150+ km away
but need network centric warfare capability to guide 200 km S-300VM AD Missile on the F-35

Also Egypt need to protect Russian radars from the F-35s



Our guys are professional who prepared these analyzes

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Retired Air Pilot Major General and Mechanical Engineer
According to their analyzes
The most appropriate radar frequency for detecting the F-35A fighter jet is calculated between 1.5 GHz and 2 GHz


The smallest value corresponding to the L Band 1.5÷2GHz frequency, that is, the RCS that will give the lowest distance, was taken as 0.011m2.


The longest range detection range of the F-35A's L band adversarial radar, which is in the 1.5 ̴2 GHz range

-- Russian NEBO-M Radar can detect F-35 from 155 km
-- Italian RAT-31DL Radar can detect F-35 from 123 km
-- American Boing E-7T AEWC can detect F-35 from 113 km

Turkish Air Force has both RAT-31DL Radar and Boeing E-7T AEWC
Also ALP-300G S band AESA early warning radar can detect F-35 from long distance

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there are limited technology in Syria and Ukraine
but there are a lot of U/VHF and L band Radars in Russia to detect the F-35s from long distance

They need to enter Russian Airspace in Moscow
then see what will happen with F-35s
 
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Only the Russian old tech is used by the Syrians,, Russian tech to protect the Russian in Syria hasn't been engaged..
US (and Israel) were not fighting Russians in Syria. The one time they did, Russian force was smoked. Let's be real here, F-35 will wipe the floor with Russian defenses in the region, if it comes down to it. Heck, F-16s with EW pods can do the job.

Ukraine has destroyed multiple S-400 and S-300 systems in war. And people here think that Russian technology can counter F-35. Hilarious.
 

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These technologies never used in Syria
F-35 is a theory too
and never forget about stealth F-117 which was shot down by outdated S-125 in Serbia


Even Passive Radars can detect F-35s
Also Quantum Radar under development
and ALP-300G S band AESA Radar is ready now to detect low RCS targets from long distan
F-35 is a theory? Lmao

F-117A (Sortie – Engaged – Loss) ratio in Operation Allied Force = 743 – 2 – 1

Passive radars can provide an alert but the jet is moving at high speed and it cannot be tracked in real-time. Quantum radars are all hype and less substance in the present.

Americans have developed some of the largest and most powerful radar systems in the world. Maybe they know something. But they won't tell.

E-2D Hawkeye has a powerful radar system that can detect stealth aircraft reliably with its very interesting hybrid radar technology. However, details are not known. This is the only aircraft that can do "something." Rest is noise. USAF will still dominate any other force in a fight.
 

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F-117A (Sortie – Engaged – Loss) ratio in Operation Allied Force = 743 – 2 – 1

Against weak Serbia without Air Force and with outdated AD Systems

go and enter Russian airspace and attack on Moscow
then see what will happen with F-35s

Israel can attack on only weak Syria .... nothing else
 
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