Operation True Promise II - dozens of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel

[FuturePAF]

Any chance Iran could work with China to reflag some of its oil infrastructure as Chinese, through a partial sale, to dissuade Israel or the US attacking it.

Israel attacking a French oil infrastructure in Lebanon is causing some diplomatic ruffles.

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[battalion25]

Switching too early to conventional warfare will undo a guerrilla force. Lebanon’s only ability to wage successful warfare is on its own prepared terrain, and rocket strikes from its territory to make the war costly, as in 2006. Besides, an invasion into Israel will be met with uncle sam’s direct firepower, on Lebanese forces, alone, into Israel, out in the open.

Switching too early was what doomed the Tet offensive, on a military level. It contributed psychologically, which is why it is remembered. It a lot of forces will lost at a crucial moment.

I disagree the doctrine is simple down the Israeli airforce and move in with overwhelming force.

Uncle Sam will realize it is a lost cause and to late to Safe Israel... Uncle Sam is always prepared to eventually let go off Israel just like Taiwan it will become indefensible eventually.

They have exposed themselves that they are nothing else but an airforce and once they see their first fighter jet go down there hearts will reach their throats the question will be what now? absolutely nothing..

Israel is practically one of the easiest countries to invade it doesn´t have manpower or depth example the low-life Indians are honestly 100.000 times more difficult to invade.

Israel is just an airforce basically and if they use nuke and that is even better it will hasten their own defeat.

Anyone who thinks they can stop 100m persians is fuking deluded or lying to himself

 

[jauk]

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[ParthianLord]

MIT Professor Ted Postol has estimated that the CEP for Iran's missiles that hit the Nevatim air base to be 2.2kms!!!

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such none sense should receive no audience

 

[jauk]

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Yes. Please add to nuclear doctrine thread.

 

[jauk]

Will the main Iran army (not irgc) also become involved in a counter strike if Iran decides to respond back?

Not called the ‘main’ Iranian army. It’s called ‘Artesh’.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I disagree the doctrine is simple down the Israeli airforce and move in with overwhelming force.

They have around 275 fighter jets. What simple plan do you have in mind. These aren't Soviet jets that have to fly low to be effective.

They also have aerial refueling planes.

Iran's best bet it to missile barrage Israeli Air Force bases taking out as many aircraft as quickly as possible before they move them to random side roads.

 

[jauk]

Here we ago again with ‘predictions’. Unbelievably stupid.

 

[battalion25]

They have around 275 fighter jets. What simple plan do you have in mind.

They also have aerial refueling planes.

If they put them in air they can lose all 275 in 24 hours or less

 

[LeGenD]

Iran has to prepare for an invasion on ISRAEL in it´s doctrine warfare against Israel because that is where Israel is vulnerable.

1. Iran should abandon the missile strikes but instead put Iran into a massive mobilization not for defense but for an attack.

2. Iran needs to overproduce manpads meaning no more sky advantage for Israel because it has enjoyed air superiority over two non-state actors elements like Hamas and Hezbullah. Provide manpads in the gazillions to the Iraqi militias who will become a bullwark for Iran.

3. Once Israel losses the sky the war is basically over they will be sitting ducks that will be cleaned out conventionally.

4. Iran needs to attack from both the Lebanese and Syrian borders to make a surprise incursion on Israel and this time they will lose all of their airforce within a day hence they will just be sitting ducks and they will dig trenches to make a stand but they will be overwhelmed since they won´t have an airforce and majority of the country will flee.

they can´t stop when this shxt gets real and 100 million Persians mobilize for an offensive war. When Persia decides to come it is all over for Israel they don´t have the manpower nor stragetic depth. History repeats itself allover again

Iran attempted to create a large force in Syria only to face a large number of strikes and losses of valuable assets there since 2017 [related information in here, here, here, here, here, and here]. All those air and missile defense systems in Syria have failed to stop IDF because IDF Air Force is not a joke but very advanced and capable. IDF Air Force has struck targets as far as in Yemen.

A plan might sound great in theory but it may not work out in practice.

 

[battalion25]

Iran attempted to create a large force in Syria only to face a large number of strikes and losses of valuable assets there since 2017 [related information in here, here, here, here, here, and here]. All those air and missile defense systems in Syria have failed to stop IDF because its Air Force is not a joke but very advanced and capable. IDF Air Force has struck targets as far as in Yemen.

A plan might sound great in theory but it may not work out in practice.

I am not sure if Iran has ever tried to stop these strikes or put in defensive systems. If they can´t then they have to reach out to Turkey, Pakistan, UAE, Russia and China etc etc who have the tech to down these airplanes. They will be given dozens of manpads capable of taking that thing out of the air by Beijing all they gotta do is lower oil prices and give the chinese something else..

They need to go inside Israel.. Whatever they need to bring them airforce down they willbe provided with if they don´t have the means

 

[LeGenD]

I am not sure if Iran has ever tried to stop these strikers or put in defensive systems. If they can´t then they have to reach out to Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia, Russia and China etc etc who have the tech to down these airplanes. They will be given dozens of manpads capable of taking that thing out of the air by Beijing..

They need to go inside Israel.. Whatever they need to bring them airforce down they willbe provided with if they don´t have the means

Syria itself have sufficient reason to stop these strikes and its air and missile defense systems are much more than manpads but all of them failed. Even S-300 and S-400 systems have failed so manpads are absolutely useless.

 

[battalion25]

Syria itself have sufficient reason to stop these strikes and its air and missile defense systems are much more than manpads but all of them failed. Even S-300 and S-400 systems have failed so manpads are absolutely useless.

The S-400 has never been activated against Israeli airforce

 

[LeGenD]

The S-400 has never been activated against Israeli airforce

This is speculation. Russia did not bring these systems to Syria for exhibition but to protect its forces and military bases of Assad regime. But IDF Air Force has sophisticated EW systems and F-35 is VLO. So even if the intent was to not engage these systems, they could be jammed and evaded.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

If they put them in air they can lose all 275 in 24 hours or less

How? When was the last time a plane was shot down over Gaza/Lebanon/Syria/Yemen? They seem to be pretty elusive...or do you think the people on the receiving end are just plain incompetent...

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