Operation True Promise II - dozens of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel

[Jaeger]

Even with limited resources, North Korea has already managed to make hydrogen bombs. It's naive to assume Iran, a country with virtually unlimited resources, hasn't made one yet that’s in my opinion. And Zionists talking about nuclear bombing like it is a nothing to worry about.
FEAR MONGERING zionists WMDS again crazy peoples.

Well their resources were not that limited since Pakistan was the one which provided nuclear centrifuges and their blue prints(the same blue prints which AQ khan stole from the Dutch company he worked for - URENCO) and blue prints for Chinese atomic weapons,( that they tested in 1964)..In exchange for Ghauri missile.

Pakistan supplied nuclear centrifuges to Iran also but Iranians gave Pakistan up, when IAEA found traces of 90 percent enriched uranium in these centrifuges.

When IAEA threatened Iran with sactions because she broke her NPT obligations by enrich uranium up to 90 percent.

Iranians finally fessed up that these centrifuges came from Pakistan and weapons grade uranium traces found in them were Pakistan's.

 

[Developereo]

This is unnecessary paranoia.

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Pakistan should NOT be dragged into this mess.
No side has any incentive to touch a nuclear power that is not involved in war.

If you believe right wing Israeli fanatics at their word, then I don't know what to say.

We haven't forgotten the Israeli plan to attack Kahuta and a leopard never changes its spots. Our turn is coming, there is no doubt about it. The only uncertainty is when Israel will feel confident enough to try again.

Remember, Israel's greatest weapon is their mystique of getting the job done, even if it takes weeks, months, years or decades.

P.S. I am not saying Pakistan should fire the first shot but, if Israel opens the nuclear Pandora's box in Iran, where even the aftereffects can affect Pakistani citizens, then Pakistan has the obligation to inform Israel of the consequences. Of course, in reality we know how much the Pakistani generals care about ordinary citizens, so all this is rhetorical anyway.

 

[r3alist]

Yes they are racist and yes they are warmongering, but they are not stupid. They are motivated by survival, not martyrdom.

But do they?

When was the last time they had an actual state they ruled? I don't believe it even lasted long

Since then, they have had how much trauma added to their collective conscience?
We probably can only understand the surface
Their thinking right now, multi front wars, generational anger stored up seems utterly self destructive, sooner or later

 

[Developereo]

But do they?

When was the last time they had an actual state they ruled? I don't believe it even lasted long

Since then, they have had how much trauma added to their collective conscience?
We probably can only understand the surface
Their thinking right now, multi front wars, generational anger stored up seems utterly self destructive, sooner or later

The Israelis are emotional, they are motivated by religious zeal. Many of them are even racist.

But they are not stupid and they not suicidal to attack a nuclear superpower head on. They are very good at science and technology. They do not rely on religious prophecies to put success in their laps, but work hard to achieve it.

The worst mistake anyone can do is to underestimate their enemy.

 

[LeGenD]

If you believe right wing Israeli fanatics at their word, then I don't know what to say.

We haven't forgotten the Israeli plan to attack Kahuta and a leopard never changes its spots. Our turn is coming, there is no doubt about it. The only uncertainty is when Israel will feel confident enough to try again.

Remember, Israel's greatest weapon is their mystique of getting the job done, even if it takes weeks, months, years or decades.

P.S. I am not saying Pakistan should fire the first shot but, if Israel opens the nuclear Pandora's box in Iran, where even the aftereffects can affect Pakistani citizens, then Pakistan has the obligation to inform Israel of the consequences. Of course, in reality we know how much the Pakistani generals care about ordinary citizens, so all this is rhetorical anyway.

Netanyahu might be a right wing fanatic but the office of PM has its constitutional limits - he has a state to work with. Pakistan and Israel do not have a bilateral relationship and Pakistani pilots were involved in Arab - Israel conflict during the Cold War - WE cannot expect from Israel to appreciate these decisions but the option to attack Pakistan is a thing of the past and even India refused it back then. WE have fought wars with India but Israel is somehow a bigger threat to Pakistan? Come on, mate. Times have changed and Pakistan is now a well-established nuclear power. To cripple Pakistan, it has to be a substantial military operation on a scale not seen in decades but there are no indications of it. There is no buildup and incentive to it. Do you see it anywhere?

The army can observe developments and respond to provocations but there is nothing on these lines. Nuclear weapons are all not the same. Even if Israel use tactical nukes to strike a remote facility somewhere (not that it should), it does not affect Pakistan. Let's not work with paranoia but observe and have sound suggestions and control on our nerves. When you experience turbulence in the plane, you run around or fasten your seat belt?

Nevertheless, Pakistan is not in the position to tell Israel to not attack its perceived enemies. Pakistan does not have such power and clout and will draw unnecessary attention to itself. Pakistan's statements will ring hollow or might not live up to them. This is why I insist on a realistic take on our options.

 

[battalion25]

Iran has to prepare for an invasion on ISRAEL in it´s doctrine warfare against Israel because that is where Israel is vulnerable.

1. Iran should abandon the missile strikes but instead put Iran into a massive mobilization not for defense but for an attack.

2. Iran needs to overproduce manpads meaning no more sky advantage for Israel because it has enjoyed air superiority over two non-state actors elements like Hamas and Hezbullah. Provide manpads in the gazillions to the Iraqi militias who will become a bullwark for Iran.

3. Once Israel losses the sky the war is basically over they will be sitting ducks that will be cleaned out conventionally.

4. Iran needs to attack from both the Lebanese and Syrian borders to make a surprise incursion on Israel and this time they will lose all of their airforce within a day hence they will just be sitting ducks and they will dig trenches to back a stand but they will be overwhelmed since they won´t have an airforce

 

[battalion25]

Iran has to prepare for an invasion on ISRAEL in it´s doctrine warfare against Israel because that is where Israel is vulnerable.

1. Iran should abandon the missile strikes but instead put Iran into a massive mobilization not for defense but for an attack.

2. Iran needs to overproduce manpads meaning no more sky advantage for Israel because it has enjoyed air superiority over two non-state actors elements like Hamas and Hezbullah. Provide manpads in the gazillions to the Iraqi militias who will become a bullwark for Iran.

3. Once Israel losses the sky the war is basically over they will be sitting ducks that will be cleaned out conventionally.

4. Iran needs to attack from both the Lebanese and Syrian borders to make a surprise incursion on Israel and this time they will lose all of their airforce within a day hence they will just be sitting ducks and they will dig trenches to make a stand but they will be overwhelmed since they won´t have an airforce and majority of the country will flee.

they can´t stop when this shxt gets real and 100 million Persians mobilize for an offensive war. When Persia decides to come it is all over for Israel they don´t have the manpower nor stragetic depth. History repeats itself allover again

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Israel has no nukes.

Israel nukes are like Golem of Prague, a invention to scare gentiles dumbfucks.

No evidence of Israel nukes.
No nuclear tests in Israel.
No nothing.

North Korea is a example of tiny nuclear programa, that it's REAL.

They have had clandestine operations in locations where they were hoping nobody would see. But US satellites spotted one in a very remote location where the Israelis were not expecting anybody to be watching.

Vela incident - Wikipedia

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The Vela incident was an unidentified double flash of light detected by an American Vela Hotel satellite on 22 September 1979 near the South African territory of Prince Edward Islands in the Indian Ocean, roughly midway between Africa and Antarctica. Today, most independent researchers believe that the flash was caused by a nuclear explosion[1][2][3]—an undeclared joint nuclear test carried out by South Africa and Israel.

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[PakAl]

Iran has to prepare for an invasion on ISRAEL in it´s doctrine warfare against Israel because that is where Israel is vulnerable.

1. Iran should abandon the missile strikes but instead put Iran into a massive mobilization not for defense but for an attack.

2. Iran needs to overproduce manpads meaning no more sky advantage for Israel because it has enjoyed air superiority over two non-state actors elements like Hamas and Hezbullah. Provide manpads in the gazillions to the Iraqi militias who will become a bullwark for Iran.

3. Once Israel losses the sky the war is basically over they will be sitting ducks that will be cleaned out conventionally.

4. Iran needs to attack from both the Lebanese and Syrian borders to make a surprise incursion on Israel and this time they will lose all of their airforce within a day hence they will just be sitting ducks and they will dig trenches to back a stand but they will be overwhelmed since they won´t have an airforce

Manpads cannot shoot down Israeli planes. Iran tried to make Syria strong but through the rebellion it lost all the power, now is divided and weak, the economy is destroyed. Israel already knows these plans so whilst Iran works to make the resistance strong, Israel and usa plan to make them weak. Iraq Yemen Syria Lebanon are weak divided nations, they have different militias fighting each other unfortunately. They are still useful but not good for conventional warfare.

 

[battalion25]

Manpads cannot shoot down Israeli planes. Iran tried to make Syria strong but through the rebellion it lost all the power, now is divided and weak, the economy is destroyed. Israel already knows these plans so whilst Iran works to make the resistance strong, Israel and usa plan to make them weak. Iraq Yemen Syria Lebanon are weak divided nations, they have different militias fighting each other unfortunately. They are still useful but not good for conventional warfare.

Ofcourse manpads can bring down these F-35s easy brother both Turkey and Pakistan have the capability to put that shxt out of the sky for good and so does Iran but it just doesn´t sell these weapons and so does the Russians they have the capability to take it out of the air

 

[Kyussis]

MIT Professor Ted Postol has estimated that the CEP for Iran's missiles that hit the Nevatim air base to be 2.2kms!!!

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[PakAl]

Ofcourse manpads can bring down these F-35s easy brother both Turkey and Pakistan have the capability to put that shxt out of the sky for good and so does Iran but it just doesn´t sell these weapons and so does the Russians

They don't have the range. Long range SAMs are needed, but most importantly a well trained airforce with 4.5th 5th generation planes. Iran Iraq Syria can create a strong alliance. Lebanon government will not allow alliance with Iran and Yemen is divided.

 

[FuturePAF]

Switching too early to conventional warfare will undo a guerrilla force. Lebanon’s only ability to wage successful warfare is on its own prepared terrain, and rocket strikes from its territory to make the war costly, as in 2006. Besides, an invasion into Israel will be met with uncle sam’s direct firepower, on Lebanese forces, alone, into Israel, out in the open.

Switching too early was what doomed the Tet offensive, on a military level. It contributed psychologically, which is why it is remembered. It a lot of forces will lost at a crucial moment.

 

[Bharatah]

BOMB: Iran already knows that there will an attempted coup d'état in the country following an attack by Israel and possibly other countries. To try to stop this, today as I write (05/10/2024) there was an earthquake in The Kavir desert( a large open desert area near Semnan) where rarely has earthquakes. In the Richter magnitude of an earthquake, this earthquake reached the magnitude of 4.6(richter scale) and what does that mean ?

North Korea has been done a lot of nuclear tests(in public) that west media has denied (to continue selling the famous notion of Western invincibility) but in fact a lot of quake magnitude(at punggye-ri) comproves that :



If you see , their last test was in 2017 and North Korea announced that would be its first thermonuclear device(hydrogen bomb) and it got 6.3(richter scale) but if you look in olds test with tradicional nuclear bombs we see that in may 2009 a test got 4.7(richter scale) and that is practically the same scale reached by the earthquakes in Iran(4.6 richter scale) today(05/10/2024) and it practically proves that Iran ALREADY HAS ATOMIC BOMB and made his first public test to intimidate their enemies. NOTE: West Zion Media didn't cover this story.

 

[battalion25]

They don't have the range. Long range SAMs are needed, but most importantly a well trained airforce with 4.5th 5th generation planes. Iran Iraq Syria can create a strong alliance. Lebanon government will not allow alliance with Iran and Yemen is divided.

It is 2024 no need to use a jet to bring down another jet out of the sky lol.

Israel can´t win conventional warfare in the region outside of against the 2 non-state actors and Against Lebanon. If the opponent can eliminate their airforce they will have to fight a conventional warfare entirely and they are shitty fighters in conventional engagements nor do they have arsenal advantage there

Hence they will fall back on there nuke weapons which could be hoax but even if it is not hoax they will be the bigger loser in a nuclear warfare because if Tel Aviv is hit once they have lost the war.

Their bluff has been called and they are absolutely nothing outside of an airforce basically nothing nada.