Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

Iran's ally Hezbollah is only giving the appearance of fighting. Iran pumped up Hamas to fight and then abandoned it when the real fighting started.

At least they are not actively helping Israel circumvent Red Sea blockade like “brotherly” Arabs nations. And supplying them with oil as in the case with Turkey/Azerbaijan. Saudi Arabia doesn’t even let their civilian population protest or anyone publicly speaking on Palestine. Where is the shame in that?

 

[Persian Gulf]

At least they are not actively helping Israel circumvent Red Sea blockade like “brotherly” Arabs nations. And supplying them with oil as in the case with Turkey/Azerbaijan. Saudi Arabia doesn’t even let their civilian population protest or anyone publicly speaking on Palestine. Where is the shame in that?

As for Hezbollah's operations over the past few days:

Hezbollah targets group of IDF soldiers near the border

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Hezbollah fires 50+ rockets at Zionist settlement of "Kiryat Shimona", killing 1 Israeli & wounding many others

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[Unknowntruth]

If it had given 25000 fighters, Israel would have collapsed.

And how would it have gotten those soldiers in? Last I heard there is a neighboring Arab country that is also complicit in the siege on Gaza. All they had to do is turn a blind eye to weapons going to Gaza to boost the capabilities of the resistance yet chose to work with the occupiers.

 

[xiao]

Saudi Arabia is supporting in a way that avoids US and Western sanctions, as if they were offering 70 billion war reparations to the Houthis, so that the US and the West have nothing to say

 

[xiao]

Next, the United States and the West should have frequent provocations on the Taiwan issue, as well as the pressure to arm Japan and South Korea to separate Europe and the Middle East, so why doesn't China use this as a reason to recover Taiwan, when there is a clear plan to recover Taiwan? Because it is not yet time, let the Middle East and Russia confront the United States and the West, if you see that China's neighboring countries are provoking China, then there is a high probability that the United States will be suffocated in Europe and the Middle East, even if it wants to start an Asian war, there is a high probability that the war between North Korea and South Korea will occur first, China's enemies are probably India, Japan, we want to break up India, let India become various small countries, and completely eliminate Japanese imperialism

 

[VCheng]

Now I would ask you to return the favour and answer this question with similar brevity and clarity: do you oppose Zionism?

Thank you for the answer. This question that you now ask is not the one you asked before:

You were asked if you think pro-genocidal Zionists should be publicly condemned.

Not only have you now changed the question, but you also lie about my answer by saying this:

Your answer was that all terrorists and war criminals should be condemned.

when I clearly said this: All proponents of genocide and terrorism should be treated the same as the war criminals that they are in my view.

To say the obvious once again: ALL those who support GENOCIDE and TERRORISM are WAR CRIMINALS. That clearly includes everyone who would advocate ethnic cleansing, genocide and extermination or even displacement of a people, whether they are Zionist or not, they are to be condemned, totally and utterly.

 

[VCheng]

In the long run, Israel has lost its most powerful asset: The support of Americans. To put it crassly, all the racist old religious white men in positions of power in America, are going to die in a decade or so, to be replaced by a generation who grew up seeing Israeli atrocities unfold in front of them live on social media.

Unfortunately, I cannot see the future as clearly or with such certainty as you seem to be sure of, so I cannot respond to such assertions at all. Sorry.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Thank you for the answer. This question that you now ask is not the one you asked before:

I didn't say it was the same question.

Nonetheless, I immediately answered your question with a yes or a no and you have failed to reciprocate. I will ask my second question again: do you oppose Zionism?

 

[VCheng]

I didn't say it was the same question.

Nonetheless, I immediately answered your question with a yes or a no and you have failed to reciprocate. I will ask my second question again: do you oppose Zionism?

Ah, a new question. What do my views about Zionism have anything to do with the topic here? Even so, let me answer it.

According to Wikipedia: "Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state."

Anyone can see that is almost similar to Pakistan's own Muslim League in the days when it was beginning to fight for a separate homeland for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, and one whose ideology to this day is to support Pakistan as a Muslim State. Given that similarity and going by that definition above,, I do not see why there is any reason to oppose a nationalist movement, one of many throughout the world.

Now, if Zionism, in your view, is something more than that definition, or if it has any views that advocate genocide of the Palestinian people, then I would oppose that, of course. But the grounds need to be established for that first.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Ah, a new question. What do my views about Zionism have anything to do with the topic here? Even so, let me answer it.

According to Wikipedia: "Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state."

Anyone can see that is almost similar to Pakistan's own Muslim League in the days when it was beginning to fight for a separate homeland for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, and one whose ideology to this day is to support Pakistan as a Muslim State. Given that similarity and going by that definition above,, I do not see why there is any reason to oppose a nationalist movement, one of many throughout the world.

Now, if Zionism, in your view, is something more than that definition, or if it has any views that advocate genocide of the Palestinian people, then I would oppose that, of course. But the grounds need to be established for that first.

Note how I did not quibble on the definition of "terrorism" when you asked if I condemned that.

But thank you for confirming that you are a Zionist.

 

[VCheng]

But thank you for confirming that you are a Zionist.

Please stop lying. This is what I said:

Anyone can see that is almost similar to Pakistan's own Muslim League in the days when it was beginning to fight for a separate homeland for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, and one whose ideology to this day is to support Pakistan as a Muslim State. Given that similarity and going by that definition above,, I do not see why there is any reason to oppose a nationalist movement, one of many throughout the world.

How does that make me a Zionist? Please stop lying.

I further clarify:

Now, if Zionism, in your view, is something more than that definition, or if it has any views that advocate genocide of the Palestinian people, then I would oppose that, of course. But the grounds need to be established for that first.

There are many branches and offshoots of Zionism. Do you want them all to be lumped together? It is kind of taking major sects in Islam as one entity where they clearly are not.

 

[LeonBlack08]

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[lightning f57]

Ah, a new question. What do my views about Zionism have anything to do with the topic here? Even so, let me answer it.

According to Wikipedia: "Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state."

Anyone can see that is almost similar to Pakistan's own Muslim League in the days when it was beginning to fight for a separate homeland for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, and one whose ideology to this day is to support Pakistan as a Muslim State. Given that similarity and going by that definition above,, I do not see why there is any reason to oppose a nationalist movement, one of many throughout the world.

Now, if Zionism, in your view, is something more than that definition, or if it has any views that advocate genocide of the Palestinian people, then I would oppose that, of course. But the grounds need to be established for that first.

Pathetic reply.

There is a huge difference between Pakistan a Muslim state and the creation of Israel through Zionism. Zionism isn't a religious movement, its an ethnic racial movement to take over the historical lands of Palestine, its a racist movement. I am not surprised you cant answer straight questions.

 

[VCheng]

Zionism isn't a religious movement, its an ethnic racial movement to take over the historical lands of Palestine, its a racist movement.

Please provide a reference that I can read. I referred to the Wikipedia definition above. May be you know of a better description that supports what you have said here?