Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[SecularNationalist]

Yahya sinwar fought like a lion till the very end.
His last video shot by a israeli drone is the testament of that.

 

[Meengla]

Republicans also cater to right wing evangelist lunatics who so fantatically want The Rupture to come to fullfillment, so that Jesus can return (and kill all the Jews!!). For that to happen Jews must be gathered in the holy land first according to the Biblican prophecy. Its a twisted marriage between zionists and evangelists.

Democrats otoh have a voterbase that is less connected to religion and more multicultural leaning, giving Democratic candidates more manouvering space concerning this topic.

I have no doubt that the Pro Palestinian vote going for Jill Stein would be wrong call in the Swing States and they would unwittingly land the significant Pro Palestinian Democrats on the losing side of this struggle. Yes, their desire to 'punish' Harris would be satisfied but then what?? They would be licking wounds on the side over the next 4 years, strangely feeling victorious and watch from the sidelines as Trump would do whatever he may want to do in the Middle East.
But interestingly, a significant majority of the American Jews are still staying with the Democrats: Their reasoning is valid: They don't trust Trump's base which has significant real Anti-Semites--the Rapture Seeking as you said. That population of American Jews thinks for themselves where their own condition in America is more important that a pro Israel Trump Presidency. And that population of American Jews is hated by the Israeli Jews per my reading of the users Comments on Israeli sites.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

LMAO

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[hussain0216]

I have no doubt that the Pro Palestinian vote going for Jill Stein would be wrong call in the Swing States and they would unwittingly land the significant Pro Palestinian Democrats on the losing side of this struggle. Yes, their desire to 'punish' Harris would be satisfied but then what?? They would be licking wounds on the side over the next 4 years, strangely feeling victorious and watch from the sidelines as Trump would do whatever he may want to do in the Middle East.
But interestingly, a significant majority of the American Jews are still staying with the Democrats: Their reasoning is valid: They don't trust Trump's base which has significant real Anti-Semites--the Rapture Seeking as you said. That population of American Jews thinks for themselves where their own condition in America is more important that a pro Israel Trump Presidency. And that population of American Jews is hated by the Israeli Jews per my reading of the users Comments on Israeli sites.

They will punish Harris with a protest vote that will get Trump in, who in turn will punish Palestine

 

[Davey Crockett]

November 11th is a very important date for Americans who are against bankster's wars.

Later, I will find a good article on the history.

Veterans Day used to be Armistice Day, a holiday originally created as a result of:

This Day in History

July 28, 1932: Bonus Army Attacked​

July 28, 1932: Bonus Army Attacked

The U.S. government attacked an encampment of Black and white WWI veterans with tanks, bayonets, and tear gas.

www.zinnedproject.org

Excellent article. But not exactly what I am looking for.

The Bonus Army was made up of 25,000 thousand poor black and white destitute vets from WWI, camped out in Washington D.C., demanding immediate payment of what was owed at the onset of the Great Depression.

In 1924, WWI vets were voted “Adjusted Compensation” by Congress: $1.25 for each day served overseas, $1.00 for each day served in the States.

A history lesson for the current crop of ZOG bots who entertain illusions Uncle Saul will take care of them when the economy crashes.

@Meengla and others:

Put together some quotes by Helen Keller (1910-12) on greed, war and economic injustice that may resonate.

Post in thread 'US Politics' https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/us-politics.5/post-395888

 

[ghazi52]

Gaza ceasefire talks to resume in coming days​

Tom Bennett
BBC News
Reporting from London

AFP

Negotiations over a potential Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal are set to resume in Doha in the coming days, officials from the US, Israel and Qatar have said.

A spokesperson for Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said an Israeli delegation will travel to Qatar on Sunday.

It is not yet clear whether Hamas has agreed to participate in the talks.

The US believes the death of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar last week - seen as one of the group's most extreme figures - may open the door to an agreement, though Hamas has accused Israel of being the primary block to any deal.

“With Sinwar gone,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told journalists, “there is a real opportunity to bring [the hostages] home and to accomplish the objective.”

That objective, Mr Blinken said, was to reach a deal "so that Israel can withdraw, so that Hamas cannot reconstitute, and so that the Palestinian people can rebuild their lives and rebuild their futures".

Qatar’s foreign minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani said Qatari mediators had "re-engaged" with Hamas since Sinwar's death, but there was “no clarity” over the groups current plans with regards to ceasefire talks.

"There has been an engagement with the representatives from the political office in Doha. We had some meetings with them in the last couple of days," he said, adding that Egypt was also in "ongoing" discussions with Hamas.

A Hamas delegation met with Egyptian intelligence officials in Cairo on Thursday evening to discuss the situation in Gaza, one senior Palestinian official and one Egyptian official told the BBC.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a post on X that he welcomes Egypt's "readiness to advance a deal for the release of the hostages".

Previous discussions over the long-sought after deal have centred around a proposal from US President Joe Biden in May, which was “positively” received by Hamas.

That proposal laid out a three-step plan that would begin with a six-week ceasefire, in which the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) would withdraw from populated areas of Gaza.

There would also be a "surge" of humanitarian aid, as well as an exchange of some hostages for Palestinian prisoners.

It would eventually lead to a permanent "cessation of hostilities" and a major reconstruction plan for Gaza.

But talks faltered, with a key sticking-point being Netanyahu's insistence on an Israeli troop presence on the Gaza-Egypt border, known as the Philadelphi corridor.

Blinken is on his 11th visit to the Middle East since the start of the current war between Israel and Hamas more than a year ago, and is set to end his trip on Friday.

During the visit, he announced an additional $135 million of aid “in humanitarian assistance, water, sanitation, maternal health for Palestinians in Gaza, in the West Bank, as well as in the region”, taking the total amount of US aid since the start of the war to some $1.2 billion.

 

[UKBengali]

They will punish Harris with a protest vote that will get Trump in, who in turn will punish Palestine

This is about the long game here.

Thinking short-term is what has invariably led Muslims to the abysmal situation they are in.

There is literally not much worse that can happen under Trump as a full scale genocide has been fully enabled by the Democrats. This will continue under Harris who will be tightly controlled by the Zionists that have infiltrated all the important levers of power.

The strategy that Muslims and progressives in US have settled at is to make sure that the Democrats can only ever win again by booting out the hardcore Zionists that have taken control of their party.

Other angle is to look at who will diminish US power quicker with their recklessness - that will almost certainly be Trump.

 

[ghazi52]

Gaza war's 'darkest moment' unfolding in north, UN says​

David Gritten
BBC News

World Health Organization

The WHO posted a photo showing patients being treated inside Kamal Adwan hospital in Beit Lahia

The UN human rights chief has said the war in Gaza's “darkest moment” was unfolding in the north of the territory.

“As we speak, the Israeli military is subjecting an entire population to bombing, siege and risk of starvation,” Volker Türk said.

He called on the world’s leaders to act, saying states had a duty under the Geneva Conventions to ensure respect for international humanitarian law.

There was no immediate response from the Israeli military, but it has said its troops have killed “hundreds of terrorists” and evacuated 45,000 civilians in Jabalia since going back into the area for the third time on 6 October with the aim of stopping Hamas fighters regrouping there.

It comes as the head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said he was deeply disturbed by reports that Israeli troops have raided one of the last functioning hospitals in northern Gaza.

Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the WHO had lost contact with Kamal Adwan hospital in Beit Lahia, which was overflowing with almost 200 patients amid an Israeli offensive in nearby Jabalia.

Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry said Israeli troops had detained patients, staff and displaced people, while Israel's military said its forces were operating “in the area” based on intelligence “regarding the presence of terrorists".

Hundreds of Palestinians have reportedly been killed and tens of thousands displaced since Israeli forces went back into Jabalia.

Residents unwilling or unable to comply with Israeli evacuation orders are said to be living in increasingly desperate conditions, with food and other essential supplies running out.

The UN human rights chief warned on Friday that the entire population of northern Gaza was being subjected to “non-stop” bombing, with hundreds of thousands ordered to move with no guarantees of return.

“Unimaginably, the situation is getting worse by the day,” Türk said.

“The Israeli government’s policies and practices in northern Gaza risk emptying the area of all Palestinians. We are facing what could amount to atrocity crimes, including potentially extending to crimes against humanity.”

 

[ghazi52]

On Friday morning, Gaza’s health ministry said in a statement Israeli forces had “stormed” Kamal Adwan hospital and were detaining hundreds of patients, medical staff and displaced people inside.

In the afternoon, the ministry said displaced men had been forced to take off their clothes and that some had been arrested.

A number of medical staff, including the director of the hospital Dr Hussam Abu Safiya, had also not been heard from since they were summoned to see Israeli forces stationed in the courtyard, it added.

A video posted on social media late on Thursday showed Dr Abu Safiya speaking on the telephone while walking through a busy ward with what appeared to be a shatter window and a damaged ceiling.

“Instead of receiving aid we receive tanks. Tanks that are shelling the building,” he says.

Eid Sabbah, the director of nursing, said in a voice note to Reuters news agency early Friday: "At midnight, the occupation army tanks and bulldozers reached the hospital. The terrorising of civilians, the injured and children began as [the Israeli forces] started opening fire on the hospital.”

He said the Israeli forces retreated when a delegation from the WHO arrived with an ambulance and evacuated some patients. However, tanks later returned to the surrounding area and opened fire at the hospital, hitting its oxygen stores, before troops began a raid and ordered staff and patients to leave, he added.
Dr Tedros later confirmed that a WHO team had reached the hospital on Thursday night “amid hostilities in the vicinity”, and transferred 23 patients and 26 caregivers to al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. They also delivered units of blood, trauma and surgical supplies.

Gaza war's 'darkest moment' unfolding in north, United Nations says

Volker Türk has called on world leaders to act, saying states had a duty to ensure respect for international humanitarian law.

www.bbc.com

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi urged US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to put pressure on Israel over the deteriorating humanitarian situation and the mass displacement of civilians in the north.

“We look at northern Gaza and we do see ethnic cleansing taking place, and that has got to stop,” he said at the start of a meeting in London.

Many Palestinians believe the Israeli military is implementing out the so-called “Generals’ Plan” in the north, which would see the forced displacement of all of the estimated 400,000 civilians there to the south followed by a siege of any remaining Hamas fighters.

The Israeli military has denied having such a plan and that it is making sure that civilians get out of harm’s way.

Safadi also warned that the Middle East stood on the “brink of regional war”, adding that every time he met Blinken the situation was getting worse, “not for lack of us trying but because we do have an Israeli government that is not listening to anybody, and that has got to stop”.

“The only path to save the region from that is for Israel to stop the aggressions on Gaza, on Lebanon, stop unilateral measures, illegal measures in the West Bank, that is also pushing the situation to the abyss,” he stated.

Blinken met with Arab leaders and foreign ministers in the UK following a diplomatic tour of the Middle East.

The US is believed to be working on a plan for post-conflict Gaza, trying to get buy-in from Arab countries even though progress on a ceasefire and hostage deal for Gaza has been stalled for weeks.

Blinken said he was having important conversations “on ending the war in Gaza and charting a path for what comes next”. He also said there was a “sense of real urgency in getting a diplomatic resolution” to the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

On Thursday, Israel said it would send the head of its Mossad intelligence agency to Doha on Sunday to meet the CIA director and Qatar’s prime minister amid renewed efforts to restart the Gaza ceasefire and hostage release talks.

It came after a Hamas delegation met Egyptian security officials in Cairo. Hamas said there had been no change in its conditions for a deal, which include the full withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza.

Israel launched a campaign to destroy Hamas in response to the group's unprecedented attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

More than 42,840 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

 

[Tamerlane]

I have no doubt that the Pro Palestinian vote going for Jill Stein would be wrong call in the Swing States and they would unwittingly land the significant Pro Palestinian Democrats on the losing side of this struggle. Yes, their desire to 'punish' Harris would be satisfied but then what?? They would be licking wounds on the side over the next 4 years, strangely feeling victorious and watch from the sidelines as Trump would do whatever he may want to do in the Middle East.
But interestingly, a significant majority of the American Jews are still staying with the Democrats: Their reasoning is valid: They don't trust Trump's base which has significant real Anti-Semites--the Rapture Seeking as you said. That population of American Jews thinks for themselves where their own condition in America is more important that a pro Israel Trump Presidency. And that population of American Jews is hated by the Israeli Jews per my reading of the users Comments on Israeli sites.

Forget about faggots like Trump and Harris and their voters. The future of America will be decided after the elections by real men representing the right and the left.

 

[Meengla]

he strategy that Muslims and progressives in US have settled at is to make sure that the Democrats can only ever win again by booting out the hardcore Zionists that have taken control of their party.

You mean well but you don't seem enough informed about the American political setup: Unlike the UK, it is an almost exclusive duopoly where the first past the pole is the winner and the winner takes it all. and a US President on your side carries a lot of weight. The US President has enormous powers in the system where often the usual 'checks and balances' are not effective.

Specifically speaking: Into the foreseeable future I see America continuing with the duopoly. I have been Green Party route before--Nader 2000 and even Stein in 2016! Didn't work 24 years ago. Didn't work 8 years ago. Won't work now. But even in system with multiple parties, like in India, a candidate like Modi can keep winning, and winning, and winning. In case of America, it would be the duopoly which will keep wining, and winning, and winning. How long can the Middle East wait? Year 2040? 2048? 2072?
Also with respect, you have discounted my postings about as many as HALF of the Democrats boycotted Netanyahu and that too in an election year. Why not enable them to win instead of a known anti Palestinian entity like Trump?? Why not tap into an already existing cadre and powerful voices like AOC by placing them in power corridor?

 

[WAZA]

Award-winning journalist Bob Woodward in his new book reveals the following about Oct 7:

- The U.S. and Iran gave assurances to each other through back channels that neither wanted war.

- Qatar has promised the U.S. to disavow and kick out Hamas after the conflict is over.

- Netanyahu deliberately and in a concentrated effort prevented humanitarian aid from entering Gaza. When confronted, he offered to let in "experts"; he was reminded that starving people cannot eat or drink an "expert."

- Netanyahu was absolutely terrified of Hezbollah having been part of the initial Oct 7 attack to the point he contemplated a pre-emptive strike. He was relieved when he found out that wasn't the case.

- Egypt gave Israel/U.S. extensive intelligence on Hamas, including their tunnel networks and operational strategies. Egypt even advised Israel on how to maneuver in Gaza.

- Saudi Arabia was very close to normalizing with Israel; however, Oct 7 ended all of this. MBS said to Blinken that 70% of his population was young and oblivious to the Palestinian cause. Now they are exposed to it constantly, and for there to be normalization, a clear Palestinian pathway is needed. When Blinken presented this to Netanyahu, he declared the need to come up with "creative wordsmithing," i.e., a solution that is not real.

- The Republicans endorsed giving Saudi Arabia security assurances in exchange for normalization. Lindsey Graham said it was crucial the normalization was done while the Democrats were in office because otherwise, they would never vote for "going to war for Saudi Arabia."

- The U.S. is increasingly worried about the perception of Israel as a rogue state.

 

[hussain0216]

This is about the long game here.

Thinking short-term is what has invariably led Muslims to the abysmal situation they are in.

There is literally not much worse that can happen under Trump as a full scale genocide has been fully enabled by the Democrats. This will continue under Harris who will be tightly controlled by the Zionists that have infiltrated all the important levers of power.

The strategy that Muslims and progressives in US have settled at is to make sure that the Democrats can only ever win again by booting out the hardcore Zionists that have taken control of their party.

Other angle is to look at who will diminish US power quicker with their recklessness - that will almost certainly be Trump.

No I get it, the Americans are idiots, Trump is a train wreck the fact that this elections is so close tells us what a circus the U.S is.

The long game is inevitably what we need to concentrate on, but with a Zionist shill like Trump, they will support Israel and the Arabs will bend over even further to appease trump