Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Spare yourself wig!
It can make for a great soundbite but nothing. The parasitic abomination was western a western project and runs on western dime, weapons and tech!
They don't have to throw the crumbs, none are needed. Just unwind this sick experiment and be done with it...
Khansaheeb
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It's the prime terrain now for incessant guerilla warfare thanks to foolish Israeli strategy. As long as the Palestinains stay close quarters and encircle and engage in close combat and take Isareli weapons then there is little the IDf can do,
Get Ya Wig Split
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I assume you're referring to part of my comment where I mention that people in Gaza received more financial aid than Europeans did through the Marshall Plan after the end of World War II? Just to clarify, we're talking on a per capita GDP basis.
The Marshall Plan distributed $60 billion (at today’s prices), which worked out to $272 per European in the main participating countries. By contrast, by the end of last year, according to the World Bank, the Palestinians had received $4 billion since Oslo, which translates into $1,330 per Palestinian. In other words, the Palestinians have already gotten more than four times as much as the Europeans got from the Marshall Plan. Or if done on an annual basis, the Palestinians have gotten $161 per person per year compared to $68 per person annually under the four-year Marshall Plan, meaning the Palestinians have gotten more than twice as much aid for twice as long as Europe got under the Marshall Plan.
In 2000, WBG [West Bank and Gaza] received $636 million in aid or $214 for each of the three million WBG residents. That is the highest in the world by far. Only Bosnia, at $185, is close; Israel is third at $128.
The PA reported that in the first 18 months of the intifada, Arab countries provided $677 million in aid. Donor funding was “only” $482 million in 1999 before the violence began; it ballooned to $929 million in 2001. That is an extra $447 million, or $149 extra per Palestinian.
It is instructive to compare Palestinian incomes to those of other Arabs. In 2000, WBG income per person was $1,660. That was higher than in such middle-income Arab countries as Algeria ($1,580) or Egypt ($1,490). Palestinian income has fallen as the violence has worsened. In its March 2002 report on the impact of the violence, the World Bank’s estimate was that Palestinian income per person fell 19 percent in 2001, which would put the income at about $1,340. That is still above a country such as Morocco ($1,180 in 2000). The World Bank’s estimate was that harsher closure could mean that Palestinian income may fall 20 percent more in 2002, which would put the per-capita income at $1,070. Palestinian income may be only 14 percent higher than in Syria, where per-capita income was $940 in 2000.
As the comparison above shows, the Palestinians pre-intifada were solidly middle-class in the Arab world: their income was above the average for all Arabs. With the disastrous violence of the last two years, Palestinians have slipped down to become lower middle class among the Arabs, somewhere below Morocco but above Syria.
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It's interesting how I'm the only one who always has to provide evidence and links to data. No problem, I'd rather do it this way than spread propaganda.
The Marshall Plan distributed $60 billion (at today’s prices), which worked out to $272 per European in the main participating countries. By contrast, by the end of last year, according to the World Bank, the Palestinians had received $4 billion since Oslo, which translates into $1,330 per Palestinian. In other words, the Palestinians have already gotten more than four times as much as the Europeans got from the Marshall Plan. Or if done on an annual basis, the Palestinians have gotten $161 per person per year compared to $68 per person annually under the four-year Marshall Plan, meaning the Palestinians have gotten more than twice as much aid for twice as long as Europe got under the Marshall Plan.
In 2000, WBG [West Bank and Gaza] received $636 million in aid or $214 for each of the three million WBG residents. That is the highest in the world by far. Only Bosnia, at $185, is close; Israel is third at $128.
The PA reported that in the first 18 months of the intifada, Arab countries provided $677 million in aid. Donor funding was “only” $482 million in 1999 before the violence began; it ballooned to $929 million in 2001. That is an extra $447 million, or $149 extra per Palestinian.
It is instructive to compare Palestinian incomes to those of other Arabs. In 2000, WBG income per person was $1,660. That was higher than in such middle-income Arab countries as Algeria ($1,580) or Egypt ($1,490). Palestinian income has fallen as the violence has worsened. In its March 2002 report on the impact of the violence, the World Bank’s estimate was that Palestinian income per person fell 19 percent in 2001, which would put the income at about $1,340. That is still above a country such as Morocco ($1,180 in 2000). The World Bank’s estimate was that harsher closure could mean that Palestinian income may fall 20 percent more in 2002, which would put the per-capita income at $1,070. Palestinian income may be only 14 percent higher than in Syria, where per-capita income was $940 in 2000.
As the comparison above shows, the Palestinians pre-intifada were solidly middle-class in the Arab world: their income was above the average for all Arabs. With the disastrous violence of the last two years, Palestinians have slipped down to become lower middle class among the Arabs, somewhere below Morocco but above Syria.
U.S. Aid to PA Exceeds Marshall Plan Aid to Europe
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It's interesting how I'm the only one who always has to provide evidence and links to data. No problem, I'd rather do it this way than spread propaganda.
The SC
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You are talking about Palestinians in general; the ones in the West bank most of them work. while Gaza is another Token where the youth can't even go to school..what income are you talking about?I assume you're referring to part of my comment where I mention that people in Gaza received more financial aid than Europeans did through the Marshall Plan after the end of World War II. Just to clarify, we're talking on a per capita GDP basis.
The Marshall Plan distributed $60 billion (at today’s prices), which worked out to $272 per European in the main participating countries. By contrast, by the end of last year, according to the World Bank, the Palestinians had received $4 billion since Oslo, which translates into $1,330 per Palestinian. In other words, the Palestinians have already gotten more than four times as much as the Europeans got from the Marshall Plan. Or if done on an annual basis, the Palestinians have gotten $161 per person per year compared to $68 per person annually under the four-year Marshall Plan, meaning the Palestinians have gotten more than twice as much aid for twice as long as Europe got under the Marshall Plan.
In 2000, WBG [West Bank and Gaza] received $636 million in aid or $214 for each of the three million WBG residents. That is the highest in the world by far. Only Bosnia, at $185, is close; Israel is third at $128.
The PA reported that in the first 18 months of the intifada, Arab countries provided $677 million in aid. Donor funding was “only” $482 million in 1999 before the violence began; it ballooned to $929 million in 2001. That is an extra $447 million, or $149 extra per Palestinian.
It is instructive to compare Palestinian incomes to those of other Arabs. In 2000, WBG income per person was $1,660. That was higher than in such middle-income Arab countries as Algeria ($1,580) or Egypt ($1,490). Palestinian income has fallen as the violence has worsened. In its March 2002 report on the impact of the violence, the World Bank’s estimate was that Palestinian income per person fell 19 percent in 2001, which would put the income at about $1,340. That is still above a country such as Morocco ($1,180 in 2000). The World Bank’s estimate was that harsher closure could mean that Palestinian income may fall 20 percent more in 2002, which would put the per-capita income at $1,070. Palestinian income may be only 14 percent higher than in Syria, where per-capita income was $940 in 2000.
As the comparison above shows, the Palestinians pre-intifada were solidly middle-class in the Arab world: their income was above the average for all Arabs. With the disastrous violence of the last two years, Palestinians have slipped down to become lower middle class among the Arabs, somewhere below Morocco but above Syria.
U.S. Aid to PA Exceeds Marshall Plan Aid to Europe
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
It's interesting how I'm the only one who always has to provide evidence and links to data. No problem, I'd rather do it this way than spread propaganda.
Get Ya Wig Split
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Yes, I'm referring to all Palestinians that's how the average amount per capita is calculated. What's the issue?
Kyussis
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The point is to provide cover for their Genocide!
The SC
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Well most of them get their income by working in Israel.. that is not aid!
And even if that aid was true..what if someone gets a million dollars but put in jail!? would he be enjoying it normally!?
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Kyussis
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Cheap propaganda made to make the Houthis look evil. Where was all the concern for the environmental effects of all the enemy cargo ships sunk in all of the U.S's wars? where is the concern for the radioactive materials that the Euro Trash nations have been dumping off the horn of africa?Why are they sending ships to be sunk knowing they can cause environmental disasters?:-
Fears of environmental disaster rise as ship sinks after Houthi attack© U.S. Central Command/AP
A cargo ship sank in the Red Sea after an attack by Houthi militants, taking some 21,000 metric tons of fertilizer down with it, posing a significant environmental risk to one of the world’s busiest waterways and the home of many coral reefs.
The Rubymar was struck by an anti-ballistic missile fired by the Iranian-backed Houthis on Feb. 18 and sank early Saturday after “slowly taking on water” since the attack, U.S. Central Command said on social media early Sunday local time.
“The approximately 21,000 metric tons of ammonium phosphate sulfate fertilizer that the vessel was carrying presents an environmental risk in the Red Sea,” Centcom said, adding that the ship “also presents a subsurface impact risk to other ships transiting the busy shipping lanes of the waterway.”
The ship’s sinking “will cause an environmental disaster,” the Yemeni government said in a separate statement.
The Houthi attack last month caused an 18-mile oil slick and forced the crew to abandon the ship. The Djibouti Ports and Free Zones Authority, which coordinated the rescue of the Rubymar’s crew members, said the fertilizer onboard was classified as “very dangerous.”
It is believed to be the first time a vessel has been completely taken out by a Houthi strike. For months, the Houthis have been using missiles and drones to attack commercial and naval vessels traversing the Red Sea in protest of Israel’s war in Gaza.
The Rubymar founders off the coast of Yemen on Tuesday.© -/AFP/Getty Images
“Yemen will continue to sink more British ships, and any repercussions or other damages will be added to Britain’s bill,” the Houthis’ deputy foreign minister, Hussein El-Ezzi, wrote Sunday on X.
However, a spokesperson with Britain’s Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office said the Rubymar was not a British ship, but was operated by a Lebanese company, flagged to Belize and owned by a company registered in the Marshall Islands.
Related video: Houthi rebels launch missiles at British cargo ship SINKING vessel (Daily Mail
Houthi rebels launch missiles at British cargo ship SINKING vessel
“We have been clear that any attacks on commercial shipping are completely unacceptable, and that the UK and our allies reserve the right to respond appropriately,” said the spokesperson, who also noted a high level of concern about the potential environment effects of the sinking.
Julien Jreissati, the program director at Greenpeace Middle East and North Africa, called for emergency response teams to be given “immediate access” to the site.
“As well as any further leaks of fuel oil from the engines, the sinking of the vessel could further breach the hull, allowing water to contact with the thousands of tons of fertilizer, which could then be released into the Red Sea and disrupt the balance of the marine ecosystems, triggering cascading effects throughout the food web,” Jreissati said.
“This disruption could have far-reaching consequences, affecting various species that depend on these ecosystems and, in turn, potentially impacting the very livelihoods of coastal communities.”
The Associated Press cited Ian Ralby, founder of maritime security firm I.R. Consilium, as saying that there were “many ways” the Red Sea could be harmed by the ship’s sinking and noted that if the ship remains intact underwater, the impact will be a slow trickle instead of a massive release.
Ralby noted that the sea has a circular water pattern, adding: “What spills in the Red Sea, stays in the Red Sea.”
The Rubymar was heading to Belarus from the United Arab Emirates when it was targeted, The Washington Post reported at the time. The British military’s United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations confirmed in an update Saturday that “the vessel has dragged anchor … and is down by the stern.”
A satellite image shows the Rubymar in the Red Sea on Friday.© Maxar Technologies/Reuters
The Houthis have said that ships linked to Israel or heading to its ports are legitimate targets, and the United States and Britain have launched several strikes against the group in an attempt to end the attacks — which do not appear to have stopped. On Saturday, Senior Houthi official Mohammed Ali al-Houthi slammed U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak for Britain’s support of Israel and said Sunak was “responsible” for the ship’s fate. He also demanded that more humanitarian relief be allowed into Gaza.
Many large ships — which carry some 12 percent of all world trade — have altered their routes to avoid the Red Sea amid the Houthi threat, opting to travel the long way around southern Africa instead.
Such detours could add as much as a month in transit time, delaying the delivery of goods and further disrupting international commerce — a sector already grappling with the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic, rising inflation and disruptions caused by Russia’s war in Ukraine.
“With fewer and fewer container ships to target, the odds of another spill with massive environmental impact has increased enormously,” Ralby told the AP.
Who are the Houthis, and why are they attacking ships in the Red Sea?
Victoria Bisset, Helier Cheung, Mohamad El Chamaa and Bryan Pietsch contributed to this report.
Get Ya Wig Split
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Just checked, Google says that before the war in Israel there were about 150,000 Palestinians working there. Is that "most of them" for you? I don't understand your point tho...
Above, I provided data showing that the average Palestinian received significantly more financial aid than Europeans did after World War II. What's illogical about that? Europeans received $60 billion in aid through the Marshall Plan after the war with over 100 times more Europeans than Palestinians.
Imagine if there were as many Palestinians as Europeans how much aid would there be then? That's why we need to look at aid per capita. And the data clearly shows that people in Gaza received much more financial aid than say, Europeans after World War II.
The main question or conversation should primarily be where all that money went or what purposes it was used for we both know the answer to that, but nobody wants to mention it. Let's ask the group that starts with the letter H...
Kyussis
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Here we have a typical Zionist. Just look at how this coward runs after attacking that woman! I am actually surprised that the police arrested him. I will not be surprised if he is released without charges.
The SC
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Your post is based on speculations or facts!?
I see only an opinion not familiar with the middle eastern Geopolitics and trying to be some clairvoyant in the future..all while insulting everyone on its path..
You are seeing what a small group of Arabs can do in a war..don't even think of whole Arab armies.. But you saw what the US did send to the region in the first days of war..Think about it..
The SC
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$60 billion in 1945 would be more than $600 billion of today's money.. just stop it..
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