Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Still,would you prefer Netanyahu to stay in power or someone a bit more leftist?


Well Netanyahu and his cabal shows the extremist genocidal mindset of the Jewish settlers with no room for doubt.

The “moderates” would use the cover of a gimped “Palestinian State” “sometime in the future” to carry on their genocide of the Palestinians in a more “acceptable” manner.

Better to see the devil say what he thinks than to try to hide his true intentions with words and a slower genocide.


Fundamentally this Jewish settler project needs to be destroyed like Apartheid S Africa was for there to be peace and justice.
 
Fundamentally this Jewish settler project needs to be destroyed like Apartheid S Africa was for there to be peace and justice.
There was no peace and justice after South Africa became a black-dominated country.
 
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The Americans tried to free themselves from the Middle East via the Abraham accords - China doesn’t want to see that succeed and would like American to get stuck with its errant problematic “entity” while China moves on up in the world. USA’ is sinking because of the genocide in Gaza.
 
You don't know that. Such a mentality will only continue this problem. It will only feed the idea of "either we take all of it or nothing" which will continue claiming hundreds of thousands of Palestinian lives. It started like this back in the 60s,it continued like this in the 70s,it went on in the 80s,it intensified in the 90s,it became worse in the 2000s.
This mentality,worsened the lives of Palestinians and gave more power to the Jews to grab more land and do what they want.

If Palestinians finally have their own legitimate country,it will make it even easier on other nations to support them. Because then they will be an officially recognized Palestinian State. A de juro and de facto sovereign State that can have its own alliances and get its legitimate support. At the very least,Palestinians will be able to live peacefully and prosper. Investments from the Muslim world will fall like rain. Charity will be coming from every Muslim country. Imagine the imams everywhere "Let's help our brothers rebuild their homes! Let's build the best hospital in Ramallah!" or "Palestinians finally have their own country,free of settlements! Now's the chance to help them rebuild it!" or "Let's build a shopping mall in Nablus!"
If you like zionist jews that much give them dozen islands by greece, if not stop being moronic giving lectures to the people who were robbed their lands, lives and dignity by them it is slimy and repulsive to read such justifications for them.
 
You re denying the occupation and you are equating the occupier to the occupied

They are not the same

I am not denying or equating anything.

All I am saying is that there are two sides to every conflict throughout human history, no matter how much one may feel one side is right and the other is wrong.

Reality almost always lies in the middle, like it or not.

Please note that I am not taking any sides at all here.
 
I am not denying or equating anything.

All I am saying is that there are two sides to every conflict throughout human history, no matter how much one may feel one side is right and the other is wrong.

Reality almost always lies in the middle, like it or not.

Please note that I am not taking any sides at all here.


You are saying that a house breaker and owner each have a side to their dispute then?

The owner is not going to be completely in the right as the house breaker also has rights as well!
 
You are saying that a house breaker and owner each have a side to their dispute then?

The owner is not going to be completely in the right as the house breaker also has rights as well!

Where exactly did I say that?

You are the one likening a complex generations-long conflict affecting an entire region to a property dispute contesting sole possession.

As I said before, neither side can realistically kill or remove all of the opposing side, and hence have to learn to coexist peacefully for the matter to be resolved. If it does not get resolved, the carnage and suffering will likely continue in a tit for tat manner.

Please note that this does not mean I am supporting or negating any side at all but merely recognizing reality.

Anyone who thinks that one or the other side will prevail is simply mistakenly naive, in my opinion.
 
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Look at it this way: USA is despised in this thread for supplying the weapons being used for the carnage in Gaza. Who do you think the Israelis despise for supplying weapons to Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis? Is that not similar?
Oh you again? Do I have to go through the same procedures which I went with you a few days ago? The same old story, recycled with a bit different words?
The same tired relativisation of the FACTUAL AND DUNSTICTIVE events?
Nominalism and scholasticism , which are medival ideas are recycled as something intellectual and progressive,
Yes , the humanist woman in the West mourns a death of chicken while she has had 5 abortions? It is just the same?
Or that tierd cliché, the truth is somewhere in the middle? So simplistic? What? One size , fits all? Is that how simplified people, nowadays see the world?
Hey I am a druggie but who are you to judge me? Because, it can be relitivised and with a few words, even positive context can be made. Obviously your dubious epistemology, makes that possible.
Let me inform you about something, reading the news and so called any sort of social or political analysis, doesn't make you very literate. It , can among todays emotional people, unfortunately for you there are people who read and lived before the constant supply of nescaffe instant information and " analysis "
So stfu and spare me of your irrelevant drivel
PA Mr Persian Gulf, why don't you let me to answer in other thread?
You are just like the usual pseudo Islamist, as soon as thing start to go to unwanted direction, you over react, strange since you ain't religious.
 
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Where exactly did I say that?

You are the one likening a complex generations-long conflict affecting an entire region to a property dispute contesting sole possession.

As I said before, neither side can realistically kill or remove all of the opposing side, and hence have to learn to coexist peacefully for the matter to be resolved. If it does not get resolved, the carnage and suffering will likely continue in a tit for tat manner.

Please note that this does not mean I am supporting or negating any side at all but merely recognizing reality.

Anyone who thinks that one or the other side will prevail is simply mistakenly naive, in my opinion.

Yes it can as that is what it boils down to.

There is nothing complex about this.

Palestinian land has been forcibly settled by Zionist Jews.

Go back to the start of the 20th century and there was at most 7% Jews living in Palestine.

This is very back and white situation.
 
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Yeah,but Hamas too should be pressed very hard by everyone who can influence them,to stop dreaming of taking back the entire territory and having all Jews kicked out. The only way for them to have a Palestine from the river to the sea,is by having a special corridor connecting them and under supervision of the UN. But then again,Israelis would never accept that now. They prefer to have them seperated. Or gather them all in a place and just isolate them.

Still I think Netanyahu will try to grab on his seat as much as he can. Even starting new problems. I don't know.
The core issue you won’t grasp. After so many posts - u simply don’t grasp it.
Hamas only exists because of the illegal occupation of Palestine. They are the resistance against an illegal oppression.
The fascist regime representing Israel - see there is a need to slaughter 40,000 innocent women and kids.
The ship may have sailed regarding the 2 state solution and that’s why Netanyahu is probably licking his snout.
 
Yes it can as that is what it boils down to.

There is nothing complex about this.

Palestinian land has been forcibly settled by Zionist Jews.

Go back to the start of the 20th century and there was at most 7% Jews living in Palestine.

This is very back and white situation.

I can only wish you luck in getting more support for such a simplistic view where it matters: the real world.
 
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