Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

We need to convert that into action, create a movement of boycott and sanction and repeated pressure on companies and governments

That I can agree with 100%. Absolutely. Thus far, not much has been done that would be effective, so obviously the carnage and suffering is not enough to trigger that - yet.

 

[Meengla]

Excellent post. One of the Best interpretation I've read on this forum. But I disagree about Israel being without direction. I would argue Israel wanted this genocide and war against Palestine.
Israel's plan was to clear the path through terror and extermination. It was to become the dominant force in the middle east with subservient partners that will bow down to it's supreme powers (primarily the Gulf Arabs, Egypt etc.,).... I'm exchange the Arabs regimes get to keep their hold on power and are guaranteed a share in Jewish wealth. No Arab springs and pesky Islam (Muslim brotherhood etc.)

I continue to understand that pre October 7, Israel was content to let Gaza alone and even let it thrive. Gaza was not 'worth it' for Israel. They already tried the occupation route and were bloodied. A peaceful, prosperous Gaza would be far less likely to inflict damage on Israel. That's a universal human situation. BUT... Israelis real target was the West Bank and they forgot that the Gazans are inseparable from the WB, especially with the Muslim holy places. A big miscalculation by Netanyahu! The idiot even turned a blind eye to the large tunnel network between Egypt and Gaza: Netanyahu was content to 'mow the grass' in Gaza every few years.

The West have simultaneously and foolishly opened a front against Russia and less directly China. This will blow back on the arrogant West as the Russians will fully back other forces such a the Houtis and Iran just to get back at the West.

Putin has recently given hint that he might arm factions fighting the Western interests. And more close to this topic: IF Putin takes a tough stand against Israel then that would be a nightmare for Israel. The Russian offensive capabilities maybe greatly dwindled due the Ukraine war but they still have immense 'intelligence' collecting resources, as an example.

Doesn't mean the Kazars can steal the entire nation because someone sold them their land. If I buy land in Germany... Does it mean I now own the nation and can kick out the Germans???.. don't be naive.

Yes, selling a few thousand acres of land never equated to occupying thousands of Sq Kms!

 

[Falcon29]

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[Antonius123]

We are talking about people being displaced. Nobody spoke about a country or state being displaced. This is YOUR invention to change the discussion.

There were people living on the land where Israel was created. Those people were forcibly evicted to make room for Israel. It doesn't matter what you call them.



A thief will also fight keep his loot. So what?

Thanks for admitting there was no Palestine state had been replaced by Israel, as there was no Palestine state before.

I've told you many times the people living on the land, many of them sold their property to Jewish.

In the 1880s, Jews, predominantly Ashkenazi,[2][3] began purchasing land and properties across Ottoman Palestine in order to expand the collective territorial ownership of the Yishuv. Large Jewish corporations and private Jewish buyers led this effort through multiple intermittent transactions that continued after Mandatory Palestine was established in 1918.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So there was no robbery nor stealing.

Can you prove otherwise?

 

[p200]

And yes .... you and your clan can declare & establish a nation in any region if majority agree and there is no sovereign government yet in that region.

You can all see the racism here clearly. If white people don't like your form of government (according to their ever changing standards) then you no longer have human rights and can be ethnically cleansed from a region they want.

Just for another example it is okay for western world to starve afghans because they dont have women's sports in schools.

 

[Antonius123]

Debunked in your head and Zionist apologists. Not according to me and many more.

Pink skins do not belong in the middle east. They will get skin cancer. Give them a part of eastern Poland or some crappy European piece of land.

Thanks for admitting you are denial and are against science.

 

[p200]

Thanks for admitting there was no Palestine state had been replaced by Israel, as there was no Palestine state before.

So there was no robbery nor stealing.

Can you prove otherwise?

I can prove that generations of people lived there and passed on land and buildings and farms and society but it doesn't count because they didn't have a white form of government.

It only counts as robbing and stealing if you are white and the western world politically agrees with you. Otherwise it is "Oh, nobody human lives here. These resistances come from terrorists and now we should kill them more."

 

[p200]

Thanks for admitting you are denial and are against science.

Every post you make is an admission that human rights are a joke. Humans are only people you currently politically agree with.

 

[Antonius123]

I remember that Golda Meir was showing the her old documents, it was written there Citizens of Palestine.
So by accepting the documents, Golda Meir accepted the existence of Palestine, certainly before the date you suggested
Now , whome we are going to believe, to you or Golda Meir.
About the destruction? Well no country without spilt blood.
As of the normal behavior of Israel? I don't recall that the Germans were killing specifically children nor they were ritualistic. Of course they defended their country, 160 Yudeo Marxists divisions were on their borders.
Also, The Nazis arrested all Yudeo Marxist abortionists and forbade the abortion. They were defending their country from Yudeo Marxists vermin , they on no point issued any orders for the colonisation the territories apart the territories which were German. Nor they issued any orders for any sort of exploitation od other territories, they didn't issue the order to exterminate the Jews.
It was one of the most multi ethnic and multi religious armies.
So ot was defence of the country not schizoid , esoteric and limitless cult of barbarism.
If you disagree with me , then I would like you to post the " facts " which can contradict me.
I am patiently waiting.

LOL it was Palestine region, not Palestine state.

Palestine were name or region attributed to Israel land by Rome's governor at that time.
While Palestine state is name of a state given by arabs from Palestine (region).
There has been no Palestine state before year 1988.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel commits yet another massacre of civilians

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[p200]

LOL it was Palestine region, not Palestine state.

Palestine were name or region attributed to Israel land by Rome's governor at that time.
While Palestine state is name of a state given by arabs from Palestine (region).
There has been no Palestine state before year 1988.

100% straw man argument. Humans do not cease to be human because the name of the land they live on. Zionists had to violently displace millions who did not sell their land.

 

[Antonius123]

I can prove that generations of people lived there and passed on land and buildings and farms and society but it doesn't count because they didn't have a white form of government.

It only counts as robbing and stealing if you are white and the western world politically agrees with you. Otherwise it is "Oh, nobody human lives here. These resistances come from terrorists and now we should kill them more."

How do you prove it?

And who declare it counts or not? British mandate was mandate from UN after the defeat of Ottoman. British issued passport, governed, regulated including for all transactions there.

 

[Antonius123]

100% straw man argument. Humans do not cease to be human because the name of the land they live on. Zionists had to violently displace millions who did not sell their land.

Arab Palestine steal and profiteering "Palestine" name which was originated for territory under Israel and Judea Kingdom. Israel can name their country "Jewish Palestine" too if she want. In fact UN separate the Palestine region into the Jewish state and Arab state.

 

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[hussain0216]

Thanks for admitting there was no Palestine state had been replaced by Israel, as there was no Palestine state before.

I've told you many times the people living on the land, many of them sold their property to Jewish.

In the 1880s, Jews, predominantly Ashkenazi,[2][3] began purchasing land and properties across Ottoman Palestine in order to expand the collective territorial ownership of the Yishuv. Large Jewish corporations and private Jewish buyers led this effort through multiple intermittent transactions that continued after Mandatory Palestine was established in 1918.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So there was no robbery nor stealing.

Can you prove otherwise?

Dummy I own land in the UK, i own houses, even industrial property

Does that mean I own the entire area or can declare a state in the UK

Of course not, this is a Zionist lie, a excuse