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[Meengla]

Maybe so, but see how the US politicians rallied around the entity all the back in 1967 at the start of "The Six day War", when the entity deliberately bombed the USS Liberty and killed dozens of US Naval Personnel.
That is nothing short of being traitors and so many of these politicians should have been tried for treason and executed. I think one of them was a Kennedy!
Yes it has become worse since the fall of the Soviet Union but starting from the late 60s, the US has becoming increasingly influenced/controlled by the Zionists.

My friend: There is such a thing known as 'relativism'. While I don't know the details of the USS Liberty attack, I don't think Israelis would intentionally bomb an ally's ship. Why would they? Makes no sense. Sounds like a really bad mistake and because Israel was already being seen as the 'aircraft carrier' by then and the influence of the Jewish Lobby was already significant, the matter was not pursued.
Why I use relativism? Because up until the early 90s, American Presidents did stand against Israel when the American interests were at stake. All American Presidents through Bush senior did that. But none, I repeat, none have shown credible restraints to Israel after Bush senior and that's my point! A point to ponder!

 

[UKBengali]

My friend: There is such a thing known as 'relativism'. While I don't know the details of the USS Liberty attack, I don't think Israelis would intentionally bomb an ally's ship. Why would they? Makes no sense. Sounds like a really bad mistake and because Israel was already being seen as the 'aircraft carrier' by then and the influence of the Jewish Lobby was already significant, the matter was not pursued.
Why I use relativism? Because up until the early 90s, American Presidents did stand against Israel when the American interests were at stake. All American Presidents through Bush senior did that. But none, I repeat, none have shown credible restraints to Israel after Bush senior and that's my point! A point to ponder!

Unfortunately you know little about the Liberty incident it seems.

It was not a single bombing attack by Zionist fighter aircraft but came in multiple waves.

To prove it was deliberate, Zionist gunboats came within a few kms and USN sailors could even see the Zionist flags, and so the Zionists would be able to see the US flag on the Liberty, and they still fired with auto-cannon.

The only logical explanation was that the USS Liberty was listening into Zionist radio communications and for some reason the Zionists wanted to hide what they were saying.

Congress buried the USN report that said it was a deliberate Zionist attack on the ship.

In essence by the late 1960s US was a a semi-Zionist vassal in that they would tolerate a deliberate murder of dozens of USN military personnel. Any other country the US would have immediately declared war on them.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, US had no fight left in it anymore and became a complete Zionist vassal, ready and willing to even start major wars at the Zionists bidding like Iraq 2003 as one of many. Clinton was the first Zionist-stooge US President as he could simply not say no to them.

 

[Davey Crockett]

"While I don't know the details of the USS Liberty attack, I don't think Israelis would intentionally bomb an ally's ship. Why would they?"
@Meengla



• Notorious incident: In 1967 the spy ship USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli fighter jets and torpedo boats in international waters during the Six-Day War. Thirty-four sailors were killed and more than 170 wounded, many critically. Israel claimed mistaken identity, which a U.S. naval court of inquiry confirmed, but that explanation is contradicted by the facts of the case.

• Based on new revelations: James Scott has interviewed Liberty survivors, senior U.S. political and intelligence officials, and examined newly declassified documents in Israel and the United States to write this comprehensive, dramatic account. He reveals that officers in Israel’s chain of command were aware of the Liberty’ s identity and shows how events in Vietnam prompted the American government to deemphasize the attack despite widespread disbelief of Israel’s story.

• The son of an attack survivor: Scott’s father, John, was an officer and engineer aboard the Liberty who was awarded the Silver Star for helping to save the ship from sinking.

Amazon.com

 

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[PakFactor]

Unfortunately you know little about the Liberty incident it seems.

It was not a single bombing attack by Zionist fighter aircraft but came in multiple waves.

To prove it was deliberate, Zionist gunboats came within a few kms and USN sailors could even see the Zionist flags, and so the Zionists would be able to see the US flag on the Liberty, and they still fired with auto-cannon.

The only logical explanation was that the USS Liberty was listening into Zionist radio communications and for some reason the Zionists wanted to hide what they were saying.

Congress buried the USN report that said it was a deliberate Zionist attack on the ship.

In essence by the late 1960s US was a a semi-Zionist vassal in that they would tolerate a deliberate murder of dozens of USN military personnel. Any other country the US would have immediately declared war on them.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, US had no fight left in it anymore and became a complete Zionist vassal, ready and willing to even start major wars at the Zionists bidding like Iraq 2003 as one of many. Clinton was the first Zionist-stooge US President as he could simply not say no to them.

It was listening in on the Israelis. Hence, the IDF took up bombing runs on it; I did read that the ship multiple times communicated with the Israelis, and they failed to stop the attacks.

Just as important is the Liberty Report, so is the King-Crane Commission by the U.S. in relation to establishing Israel and the Palestinian homeland. It's possibly the most overlooked report when talking about the Israeli-Arab conflict. The report's conclusion is that the Arabs ruled out a Jewish homeland and would never be accepting of it, along with placing limits on Jewish migration. Interestingly, in that report, the Arabs considered Palestine and Jordan all part of Syria, which historically that land is. @Meengla

Initially, the U.S. government tried fighting hard against the Zionist Complete Project, as it was called per the commission report, and so did the British, but their plans were later folded due to Zionist pressure. The report was suppressed and never saw the light of day, and many State Department officials were against changing the status quo of the region without the approval of the locals; however, the Zionist influence was strong, and we are in a mess today.

 

[Meengla]

The only logical explanation was that the USS Liberty was listening into Zionist radio communications and for some reason the Zionists wanted to hide what they were saying.

He reveals that officers in Israel’s chain of command were aware of the Liberty’ s identity and shows how events in Vietnam prompted the American government to deemphasize the attack despite widespread disbelief of Israel’s story.

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Interesting. I am not here to defend the Zionists. My point remains: The American resistance to the Israeli policies against the American interests vanished after 1991. In that vein, I also believe the Pentagon, for professional reasons, is the last remaining check on the Israeli madness in the region, however feeble that maybe.

 

[Developereo]

We need to remember that Israel's very existence hinges on the full support by the Americans; that's a very fragile existence and the events of the recent past testify to that.

The Zionists have two advantages in the West: European-ancestry Jews and evangelical Christians (mostly white) can both promote Israel from within, without triggering xenophobia and concerns of foreign control.

That is why they hate China's rise. I predicted before that both Zionist Jews and evangelical Christians share a new goal to promote evangelical Christianity in China. This will be their 'inside ticket' to control the next superpower.

 

[Meengla]

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Interesting. I am not here to defend the Zionists. My point remains: The American resistance to the Israeli policies against the American interests vanished after 1991. In that vein, I also believe the Pentagon, for professional reasons, is the last remaining check on the Israeli madness in the region, however feeble that maybe.

Another important point to note: America had backed the UNSC Resolution, which still stands, for Israel to vacate the land 'won' after the 1967 War. Can you imagine America doing such things in the UNSC now?? No, the control of the Zionists is too strong for that and we have seen how shamelessly America has stood totally alone recently in the UNSC where 14 other UNSC members voted for a fair UNSC resolution.
So, what was then and what is now--is hugely different and needs to be understood and reversed! I know I keep repeating myself!

 

[UKBengali]

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Interesting. I am not here to defend the Zionists. My point remains: The American resistance to the Israeli policies against the American interests vanished after 1991. In that vein, I also believe the Pentagon, for professional reasons, is the last remaining check on the Israeli madness in the region, however feeble that maybe.

In essence we all agree.

From the late 1960s at the latest to 1991, US was a semi-Zionist vassal and after 1991 it was a complete Zionist vassal.

Pentagon is only "restraining" the march to a regional war in ME as the entity itself would be destroyed in that case. Don't always take the words of each party at face value, as there is a lot of double-speak and deliberate attempt to mislead as to who wants what.

 

[Aziqbal]

These Zionists are the most dangerous people on planet Earth what’s even worse is some of the world‘s most powerful nations give them weapons

Those poor Palestinians how they have to suffer

 

[Meengla]

Pentagon is only "restraining" the march to a regional war in ME as the entity itself would be destroyed in that case. Don't always take the words of each party at face value, as there is a lot of double-speak and deliberate attempt to mislead as to who wants what.

Pentagon still has 'professionals' in in it and I believe so does the State Department. That they remain quiet is because of 'careerism'. I believe the Pentagon had successfully pushed back Blinken's request to supply long range missiles to Ukraine until Biden changed that policy very recently after losing the elections. I also believe Pentagon has tried to put some controls to prevent a regional war in the Middle East because Pentagon knows better than anyone else the odds are not good for America or Israel.
But politicians are politicians and professional careers are professional careers.

But, yes, broadly speaking we are in agreement over the gradual taking over of the US govt by the Zionists. As to how/why the things changed so drastically after 1991 is an interesting topic on its own. But understanding that may provide ideas about how to slow down or even reverse that.