Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Snake]

Iran provided weapons but did not have a say in operations. Provide weapons with total autonomy.

This is a double edged sword when the enemy is the Jewish state. The Al-Aqsa flood did harm Iran with the loss of Hezbollah and Syria. This also helps the Jewish state.

This is the bare minimum for all Muslim nations.

No doubt about this.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Where have I stated anything about the divinity of borders? What are you even talking about?

All borders are man made as are all nation states. Nothing "natural" about them.

The difference is that Ukraine is a piece of cake militarily compared to nuclear armed Israel fully backed by USA where the same Zionists are calling all the shots for the entire world to see. Not to mention the remaining NATO and West. Apples and oranges! Not only that the areas of Ukraine that Russia have conquered are next door to Russia, inhabited by millions of Russians and Ukraine as a whole only connection to EU/NATO/West is through Poland/Slovakia/Ukraine/Romania in the West - far away from the areas of war. Not to mention Ukraine being landlocked as the Black Sea is basically landlocked and one large lake. Unlike Israel with has unrestricted access to the Mediterranean.

I mean are you really comparing Ukraine with Israel? Not sure if serious.

Not to mention that Russia has the most nuclear weapons on the planet and Arabs/Muslims (aside from bankrupt Pakistan) have what exactly?

Fought in the same manner as Arabs did against a stronger power but eventually to no avail in both cases.

Also why are you making this conflict to be some kind of "ethnic" thing? Are you not supposed to be a Muslim? If that is the case, ethnicity has no bearing here at all. The obligation of a Indonesian Muslim is as big as that of an Arab or Brazilian Muslim.

This is exactly the difference! Your whole thesis is a cope...
Ukraine is equally supported by the same west, has a large military, industrial base and manpower. It has western mercenaries fighting just as they're in Zion!
Zion is but a puny little leech sucking an aloof host dry!
You think Russia or Russians needed approval from the West to take on the whole of west?

And this is where is the comparison ends! China stepped in to support North Korea when it wasn't even a nuclear power and stopped a coalition backed by the UN!
Arabs instead propped up western hegemony, allowed bases, bought their bonds, sold their key resource in their currency... never did bilateral deals in their own periphery or backyard in hopes of coming good on western eyes. Raised kids in their bubble to learn their ways... became them except but the name!
Today, the leech that sucks Arabs dry is alive on Arab blood and dime!
Palestinians could have equally made a hash out of mercenaries propped up and supplied via west... had they been supported and equipped in the same fashion. They wouldn't have even need your military support...
Remember Gaza kept Zion at bay all alone... while it was supported thoroughly, at a huge cost to the west... without popular support... a propped up imitation that can't keep two lines together... yet Arabs only waited for the nazgul to finish its prey!
The rest of world held its breath... how could Chinese or Russians be of a greater champions of Palestinian cause when Arabs couldn't muster a single statement. In fact muzzled objection and disapproval domestically.
You miss the point because you forget that you empowered your own nemesis over you!

 

[Bharatah]

Complete and utter unsubstantiated lies from start to finish but not surprised given your country flags (Brazil) but something tells me that you are as Brazilian as I am Mongolian.

Litterally nothing that you wrote is even remotely accurate historically. Which simple google searches can confirm...

Yes, I am Brazilian (born in Brazil), and I have no connection to Shiites or Iran. I am Sunni, anti-Zionist, and anti-Wahhabi (I have a degree in Islamic theology).

Brazil, like Saudi Arabia, is controlled by the USA and the Zionist lobby, which has led to me being persecuted here for decades. Recently, someone was sent to try to kill me on the street, while this person attempts to justify my murder by claiming that I killed people linked to them. I have never seen this person before and have never been to the places they allege. However, recently, some real anti-system political movements have emerged in the country, which is prohibited, and you can be arrested or killed at any moment. Pro-Palestine sentiment has increased significantly lately.

Returning to the topic, you failed to refute me and perhaps did not even understand what I posted: you argued that I "invented" this story of "Wahhab the Jesuit" and that Wahhab was not Islamic, but it was not me who said it (as my post shows) this was written by the German historian Carsten Niebuhr in his book “Beschreibung von Arabien” (“Description of Arabia”), written in 1772! (Just buy the book and read it). Carsten Niebuhr was hired by the King of Denmark for an expedition to the Middle East at the time, and he wrote his book, having met Wahhab in person (and exposed him). Now, try to refute the German historian and his book written in 1772! (Good luck).



Wahhab had direct ties to the British regime, the French, and others, as is well-documented in history. Later, he claimed to have converted to Islam and created a new doctrine, killing thousands of Sunnis in the region. He received money and weapons directly from the British East India Company. The book written by Wahhab is nothing; it holds no value. In Islam, the book is the Quran. Wahhab's book is part of an attempt to innovate the religion, funded by the British regime (and the Zionist lobby), just as would later come the Bayan (Bab), the Kitab-i-Aqdas (Baha'u'llah), books from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and others. I myself could write this kind of content.

Wahhabism is an ideology separate from Islam; it has nothing to do with Islam. It uses parts of the Islamic religion, just as Baha'i and Sikhism in India do.

NOTE: Wikipedia is a Zionist Jewish site (yet another one). Nothing there has official value; it is just a hub of disinformation.
NOTE 2: Wikipedia recently altered all pages related to Zionism to downplay the colonization and massacre of Palestinians.
NOTE 3 : According to SOMEONE, "the Prophet Muhammad's birthday was not celebrated..." This holds no historical value whatsoever. In terms of historicity, others tell different stories. Saudi WAHABI fake salafist laws are laws created to benefit the USA, UK, and Israel. It is no coincidence that the country that imprisons the most theologians in the world is Saudi Arabia, with over thousands theology graduates who have become political prisoners over the years(SUNNIS). And what I said is that it makes no sense to prohibit the celebration of the Prophet Muhammad's birthday while allowing a pagan festival like Halloween. Is there any Islamic tradition that permits paganism?

 

[Persian Gulf]

This is a double edged sword when the enemy is the Jewish state. The Al-Aqsa flood did harm Iran with the loss of Hezbollah and Syria. This also helps the Jewish state.

Palestinian groups act with autonomy to maintain secrecy. That was not directly related to the fall of Assad (which was promoted by Turkey and Israel separately). And Hezbollah also acted with autonomy to join the battle on October 8th.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Some Iranian regime bot because such low IQ and absurd posts cannot be explained otherwise. It is actually hillarious.

this troll still finds a way to insult Iran even when in an unrelated discussion with a random Brazilian. the very definition of obsession.

 

[Snake]

That was not directly related to the fall of Assad (which was promoted by Turkey and Israel separately). And Hezbollah also acted with autonomy to join the battle on October 8th.

These are the unintended consequences of giving Hamas complete autonomy. And that did harm Iranian interests at that same time helped the Jewish state.

 

[Persian Gulf]

These are the unintended consequences of giving Hamas complete autonomy. And that did harm Iranian interests at that same time helped the Jewish state.

Every course of conduct carries risks but the least we owe the fighters of Gaza is autonomy to decide how to use weapons to defend themselves.

 

[Musings]

this troll still finds a way to insult Iran even when in an unrelated discussion with a random Brazilian. the very definition of obsession.

Anymore and a perma ban will follow. Sick of the sectarian and nonsense attacks. Make no wonder our enemies are sniggering

 

[lightning f57]

You have to hand it to trumpy, his single handily doing what no one has been able to do for last 30 years, to unite the arabs. Long may this pressure tactics continue. The buffoon only realises his been a buffoon once the cats out the bag. Thats why I said keep watching the crap show this insane person dishes out.

 

[UKBengali]

You have to hand it to trumpy, his single handily doing what no one has been able to do for last 30 years, to unite the arabs. Long may this pressure tactics continue. The buffoon only realises his been a buffoon once the cats out the bag. Thats why I said keep watching the crap show this insane person dishes out.

Best thing that could have happened to Palestine.

It looks like the man has no common sense whatsoever and is totally unhinged.

Harris winning would have been a disaster as The Democrats would have had more chance to slyly achieve the same objectives that the buffoon in The White House has.

 

[Snake]

Every course of conduct carries risks but the least we owe the fighters of Gaza is autonomy to decide how to use weapons to defend themselves.

Defend is the key word here. While any action the resistance takes I would consider defense others may not. The attacks in to the Jewish state territory should be approved by the supplier.

 

[_Arabia_]

this troll still finds a way to insult Iran even when in an unrelated discussion with a random Brazilian. the very definition of obsession.

Last time I checked this supposed Brazilian (very probable indeed, lol) troll was the one that started his absurd, full of complete and utter lies and irrelevant sectarian troll post, not me. Post of that nature is usually the work of said regime supporters and hardly anybody else.

Troll and troll post and obsession was your usual obsession about KSA and Arabs as well to which I replied in post 61.426.

But I forgot that sectarianism, insults and trolling is only tolerated one way around but as soon as somebody even dares to show the mirror we see the end result. Something that numerous users have talked about openly from what I have just seen alone since I joined. Not without reason as well. Carry on.

Anymore and a perma ban will follow. Sick of the sectarian and nonsense attacks. Make no wonder our enemies are sniggering

You might, as usual, just want to read what is actually being written and replied to before such absurd claims. Such absurd sectarian rants that I replied to (as anybody can see) is usually only the work of said regime supporters and nobody else. Seeing the user history of that guy more or less confirms the suspicion.

But their sectarian insults 24/7, insults aimed at Arabs and recently even Turks is apparently tolerated. Nothing has changed since I joined.

Then users wonder why there are hardly any active Arab or Turkish users around? Wonder why?

Yes, I am Brazilian (born in Brazil), and I have no connection to Shiites or Iran. I am Sunni, anti-Zionist, and anti-Wahhabi (I have a degree in Islamic theology).

Brazil, like Saudi Arabia, is controlled by the USA and the Zionist lobby, which has led to me being persecuted here for decades. Recently, someone was sent to try to kill me on the street, while this person attempts to justify my murder by claiming that I killed people linked to them. I have never seen this person before and have never been to the places they allege. However, recently, some real anti-system political movements have emerged in the country, which is prohibited, and you can be arrested or killed at any moment. Pro-Palestine sentiment has increased significantly lately.

Returning to the topic, you failed to refute me and perhaps did not even understand what I posted: you argued that I "invented" this story of "Wahhab the Jesuit" and that Wahhab was not Islamic, but it was not me who said it (as my post shows) this was written by the German historian Carsten Niebuhr in his book “Beschreibung von Arabien” (“Description of Arabia”), written in 1772! (Just buy the book and read it). Carsten Niebuhr was hired by the King of Denmark for an expedition to the Middle East at the time, and he wrote his book, having met Wahhab in person (and exposed him). Now, try to refute the German historian and his book written in 1772! (Good luck).

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Wahhab had direct ties to the British regime, the French, and others, as is well-documented in history. Later, he claimed to have converted to Islam and created a new doctrine, killing thousands of Sunnis in the region. He received money and weapons directly from the British East India Company. The book written by Wahhab is nothing; it holds no value. In Islam, the book is the Quran. Wahhab's book is part of an attempt to innovate the religion, funded by the British regime (and the Zionist lobby), just as would later come the Bayan (Bab), the Kitab-i-Aqdas (Baha'u'llah), books from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and others. I myself could write this kind of content.

Wahhabism is an ideology separate from Islam; it has nothing to do with Islam. It uses parts of the Islamic religion, just as Baha'i and Sikhism in India do.

NOTE: Wikipedia is a Zionist Jewish site (yet another one). Nothing there has official value; it is just a hub of disinformation.
NOTE 2: Wikipedia recently altered all pages related to Zionism to downplay the colonization and massacre of Palestinians.
NOTE 3 : According to SOMEONE, "the Prophet Muhammad's birthday was not celebrated..." This holds no historical value whatsoever. In terms of historicity, others tell different stories. Saudi WAHABI fake salafist laws are laws created to benefit the USA, UK, and Israel. It is no coincidence that the country that imprisons the most theologians in the world is Saudi Arabia, with over thousands theology graduates who have become political prisoners over the years(SUNNIS). And what I said is that it makes no sense to prohibit the celebration of the Prophet Muhammad's birthday while allowing a pagan festival like Halloween. Is there any Islamic tradition that permits paganism?

Not sure what is more insane. Your first rant or this one.

How about I make you a challenge? Go post this nonsense claims of yours on the Islam group on Reddit or history group on Reddit where there are actual 100's of active historians and Islamic experts around not absurd frauds and see which position they will support. The answer is self-evident. Not your absurd nonsense.

As for Niebuhr he never travelled anywhere near Najd and never met Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab nor is such an absurd claim confirmed by any source anywhere. A simple search on Google Books will also confirm this.

The French Jesuit nonsense is even more absurd.

 

[_Arabia_]

This is exactly the difference! Your whole thesis is a cope...
Ukraine is equally supported by the same west, has a large military, industrial base and manpower. It has western mercenaries fighting just as they're in Zion!
Zion is but a puny little leech sucking an aloof host dry!
You think Russia or Russians needed approval from the West to take on the whole of west?

And this is where is the comparison ends! China stepped in to support North Korea when it wasn't even a nuclear power and stopped a coalition backed by the UN!
Arabs instead propped up western hegemony, allowed bases, bought their bonds, sold their key resource in their currency... never did bilateral deals in their own periphery or backyard in hopes of coming good on western eyes. Raised kids in their bubble to learn their ways... became them except but the name!
Today, the leech that sucks Arabs dry is alive on Arab blood and dime!
Palestinians could have equally made a hash out of mercenaries propped up and supplied via west... had they been supported and equipped in the same fashion. They wouldn't have even need your military support...
Remember Gaza kept Zion at bay all alone... while it was supported thoroughly, at a huge cost to the west... without popular support... a propped up imitation that can't keep two lines together... yet Arabs only waited for the nazgul to finish its prey!
The rest of world held its breath... how could Chinese or Russians be of a greater champions of Palestinian cause when Arabs couldn't muster a single statement. In fact muzzled objection and disapproval domestically.
You miss the point because you forget that you empowered your own nemesis over you!

Your post is absurd for comparing a failed and weak state (Ukraine) with no nuclear weapons, no state of the art weaponry and barely being kept alive due to unprecedented US/Western support (if not for that they would have collapsed ages ago) and mind you that has been going on since Maidan in 2014 (the West were preparing Ukraine for war for the past 20 + years) with a nuclear armed Israel, with the most advanced air force in the region, a state with several years of compulsory military service, a state in perpetual conflict and a state whose regime and people in power (Zionists) are directly controlling the entire financial system and the politics of the world's sole superpower (USA) and by extension NATO as a whole.

As for past conflicts in a totally different world and ground reality, they are just as useful to mention as the time when Arabs ruled almost half of the known world on 3 continents.

As for those imaginary systems outside of the Western ones (that dominate and rule the world and which the same China is a key component of and until recently Russia as well - soon to return under Trump - mark my words) nobody has created them but you expect Arabs of all people, divided into 20 + nation states and under constant attack (more or less) since WW2 to do it? OK. Hard to take seriously as well but this fits well into your usual rants in regards to Arabs and no surprise to see that the Arab-obsessed troll thanked your post as well. Usual song on this small forum and echo chamber.

Even the sole Palestinian here @Falcon26 had to call you guys hypocrisy and Arab obsession out and he as other Palestinians have all the reason in the world of being disappointed with Arab AND Muslim leadership.

 

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