Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Solomon2
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The Truth Gets Its Shoes On
By Noah Rothman
July 30, 2025 12:12 PM
Dozens of marginally curious media outlets and institutions had caught onto the lie promulgated by the New York Times long before the New York Times got around to acknowledging it.
Late Tuesday, the Times finally got around to clearing the caked and dried egg off its face.
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This was no minor error — a modest amendment to a fleeting aside in paragraph 25 of an otherwise airtight story. No, al-Mutawaq’s image was the feature art designed to illustrate the plight endured by all of Gaza’s 2 million people. It ran on the front page, stretching almost to the fold. And the Times wasn’t alone. This stricken child’s skeletal frame was picked up by the Times of London, The Guardian, the Daily Express, and more — all to morally blackmail Israel for pursuing its security priorities in Gaza, but not to pressure Hamas into surrendering in the war it launched and lost for the betterment of the people it supposedly serves.What took the Times so long? I wrote about the Times error yesterday, well before the correction was issued. So had many other outlets — at least, those still possessed of the sort of skepticism that is expected from the journalistic enterprise. As the Times and others have noted, the fact that al-Mutawaq suffers from genetic ailments does not negate the fact that there is hardship on the ground in Gaza. We can, however, deduce from the Times’ reticence that perhaps its editors and reporters did believe that admitting a mistake in this case would invalidate a broader narrative that it has sought to popularize.
Maybe these journalistic professionals considered in their more contemplative moments that their credulity in retailing fictions fed to them by Hamas-friendly elements in Gaza, the West Bank, and Qatar does raise questions about the broader coverage of this conflict. It does. Or, rather, it should. But if there’s one thing we’ve learned from this conflict, it is that, for Israel’s critics, no allegation of Israeli perfidy and malice is too fantastical. This one was too good to check. But it was not the first, and it will not be the last.
ResurgentIran2
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Hamas is in a tight spot. The entire Arab league and Western world stacked against them.
To be frank, Im not sure the hostages even hold such value anymore. Netanyahu has survived politically 2 years of not giving a damn about them.
Israel doesnt seem to care about the hostages when compared to the larger prize at hand (extermination of Palestinians and annexation of Gaza and WB)
But surrendering and laying down arms is not really an option either.
It will not stop the genocide.
WildApache
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Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, The British Spy to the Middle East
In the book, a British spy named Hempher, working in the early 1700s, tells of disguising himself as a Muslim and infiltrating the Ottoman Empire with the goal of weakening it to destroy Islam once and for all. He tells his readers: "when the unity of Muslims is broken and the common sympathy among them is impaired, their forces will be dissolved and thus we shall easily destroy them... We, the English people, have to make mischief and arouse schism in all our colonies in order that we may live in welfare and luxury.Hempher intends ultimately to weaken Muslim morals by promoting "alcohol and fornication," but his first step is to promote innovation and disorder in Islam by creating Wahhabism, which is to gain credibility by being morally strict on the surface. For this purpose, he enlists "a gullible, hotheaded young Iraqi in Basra named Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.
Hempher corrupts and flatters Abd Al-Wahhab until the man is willing to found his own sect. According to Hempher, he is one of 5,000 British agents with the assignment of weakening Muslims, which the British government plans to increase to 100,000 by the end of the 18th century. Hempher writes, "when we reach this number we shall have brought all Muslims under our sway" and Islam will be rendered "into a miserable state from which it will never recover again.
Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, The British Spy to the Middle East
some light reading for the salafis
Falcon29
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Israelis, Arab states, and US have decided to exterminate the entire population of Gaza.
And handover remainder of Palestine to Israel after a Hamas surrender.
They don't seek an actual solution, they're fighting for Israel to get it to assert dominance over the region.
They've done nothing concrete to actually bring about peace and two state solution.
lightning f57
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Such rubbish journalism, which is there to cover up for a genocide. The nazis also probably thought wiping out the jews were their security priorities across Europe.
Fiction is the Israeli state which keeps peddling lies and being caught time and time again. You people are sickening.
ResurgentIran2
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I agree. Sad state of affairs.
I dont want to give false hope. But Zionism is an anomaly that has disturbed the equation. An extension of a declining empire. As the empire declines, the region willl course correct and fix and realign the equation.
Dont forget that nation states that become so extreme and fascist usually implodes. There is historical precedence for this.
Remember these words from isrseli scholar Yeshayahu Leibowitz:
"The national pride and the euphoria following the Six-Day War are temporary. They will transport us from proud and rising nationalism to extreme messianic nationalism. The third stage will be bestiality and the final stage the end of Zionism"
Its pretty clear we are in the final stage before the end, but this will sadly mean a lot more death and destruction. Palestinians have bore the forefront, but Lebanese, Syrians and also Iranians to some extent will not be spared.
Stay safe my friend. Palestine is in our hearts.
Viva Palestine!
WildApache
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Unknown987
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What a rotten lot.
Watandar
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Arab League can go f itself.
Falcon29
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Is there a greater betrayal than demanding that the resistance, the rightful owner of the land, lay down its weapons and surrender?
And the depravity is that they embellish for people that this is a condition to start the path toward a two-state solution, and that the resistance is what hinders it.
They have all agreed, without exception, willingly or out of fear, with the criminal orange to liquidate the cause, besiege the resistance, and hand over or kill its leaders.
They have reached the utmost limit of betrayal and openly flaunt it, and I believe that the flood of the nation has drawn near.
And the depravity is that they embellish for people that this is a condition to start the path toward a two-state solution, and that the resistance is what hinders it.
They have all agreed, without exception, willingly or out of fear, with the criminal orange to liquidate the cause, besiege the resistance, and hand over or kill its leaders.
They have reached the utmost limit of betrayal and openly flaunt it, and I believe that the flood of the nation has drawn near.
shapurzolaktaf
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Turkey has joined a group of Arab League and Western countries in urging the Palestinian militant group Hamas to lay down its arms and relinquish control of Gaza as part of efforts to end the ongoing war in the territory.
Can you confirm this?
Falcon29
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Arabs states + West could easily make a Palestinian state in the West Bank without Gaza. Then pitch to the residents of Gaza that , "hey if you demand Hamas disarm we'll integrate Gaza into the state and you'll become free ".
Then the Palestinians in Gaza will overwhelmingy pressure Hamas and Hamas will leave the stage.
The reality is they aren't trying to do that. They're trying to end Gaza to bring way for annexation of all Palestinian territory.
Why didn't Arabs demand two state solution or actually take steps for it before ? Why are there no sanctions on Israel? We know Israel won't withdraw militarily no matter what.
Then the Palestinians in Gaza will overwhelmingy pressure Hamas and Hamas will leave the stage.
The reality is they aren't trying to do that. They're trying to end Gaza to bring way for annexation of all Palestinian territory.
Why didn't Arabs demand two state solution or actually take steps for it before ? Why are there no sanctions on Israel? We know Israel won't withdraw militarily no matter what.
Falcon29
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So far only seeing Arab League one.
It also is most certainly not a effort to end the war. Israel has stated hundreds of times it will fully annex Gaza and expel it's population after a Hamas surrender.
Which is going to involve heavy use of violence.
To characterize it as war ending effort is freemason debauchery.
Falcon29
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The call for the disarmament of Hamas and Hezbollah rests on the assumption that these groups are the root cause of the conflicts (Lebanon and Palestine).
In reality, they are symptoms—by-products of decades of instability fueled by Israel’s persistent failure to pursue meaningful conflict resolution.
What happened before these groups emerged?
Why did they come into being?
What conditions gave rise to them and enabled their growth?
If those underlying conditions remain unchanged, even voluntary disarmament by these groups will not bring lasting peace. New actors, shaped by the same grievances and ideologies, will inevitably rise to fill the vacuum created by their disarmament.
In reality, they are symptoms—by-products of decades of instability fueled by Israel’s persistent failure to pursue meaningful conflict resolution.
What happened before these groups emerged?
Why did they come into being?
What conditions gave rise to them and enabled their growth?
If those underlying conditions remain unchanged, even voluntary disarmament by these groups will not bring lasting peace. New actors, shaped by the same grievances and ideologies, will inevitably rise to fill the vacuum created by their disarmament.
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