JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Khanivore]

Now Iraq Military diplomacy in full swing.

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Yes. It could well be Iraq as the next buyer.
Pakistan is on a roll here. Something the Indians can only helplessly watch progress while their Tejas and Su-30MKI both look like miserable failures on the export market.

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[Yasser76]

In meeting with ACM Sidhu, Iraqi air chief expresses 'keen interest in JF-17 fighter jets'

In meeting with ACM Sidhu, Iraqi air chief expresses 'keen interest in JF-17 fighter jets'

Air Chief Marshal Sidhu meets Commander Iraqi Air Force: ISPRIraqi commander praises PAF's technological advancement: ISPRAir Chief Marshal Sidhu accorded guard of honour in Iraq: ISPRPakistan Air Force Air Air...

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[Yasser76]

Say what you want about Sidhu, but basically the guys seems to be acting like some travelling sales rep for PAC. Love it.

Big if on many of these deals, and they may not come off, but if they do looks like JF-17 may out do SU-30 and Rafale in terms of number of clients, and even possibly planes exported.....

 

[Ibbi32]

Now Iraq Military diplomacy in full swing.

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Air chief likes printing headlines even if they go nowhere

 

[Yasser76]

Air chief likes printing headlines even if they go nowhere

Nothing wrong with that, even if you spin small interest in JF-17 into something serious creating a buzz around the jet does no harm for us

 

[kimjongun]

We had already exported some EW stuff to iraq i think it was a video showing truck bsed jammers...

 

[Ali_Baba]

In meeting with ACM Sidhu, Iraqi air chief expresses 'keen interest in JF-17 fighter jets'

In meeting with ACM Sidhu, Iraqi air chief expresses 'keen interest in JF-17 fighter jets'

Air Chief Marshal Sidhu meets Commander Iraqi Air Force: ISPRIraqi commander praises PAF's technological advancement: ISPRAir Chief Marshal Sidhu accorded guard of honour in Iraq: ISPRPakistan Air Force Air Air...

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And, they can pay for those JF17s with F16s that they are struggling to operate (yes, would require USA approval etc). Might be time for the FM to "test" the relationship with the USA for this now, see if there is something real there or not.

 

[ghazi52]

Iraqi air chief praises PAF’s professionalism, expresses ‘keen interest’ in JF-17 Thunder jets​

News Desk
January 10, 2026



Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu meets Iraqi Air Force Commander Lieutenant General Staff Pilot Mohanad Ghalib Mohammed Radi Al-Asadi. — Photo via ISPR
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In a meeting with Pakistan‘s air chief, the commander of the Iraqi Air Force expressed a “keen interest” in JF-17 Thunder fighter jets and praised the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) professionalism, the military’s media wing said on Saturday.

According to a statement issued by Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), PAF Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu, who on a visit to Iraq, called on Iraqi Air Force Commander Lt Gen Staff Pilot Mohanad Ghalib Mohammed Radi Al-Asadi.

The two met at the Iraqi Air Force headquarters, where the ACM Sidhu received a guard of honour upon his arrival, it said.

“Discussions focused on enhancing bilateral military cooperation, with emphasis on joint training, capacity building and improving operational cooperation,” ISPR said.

 

[RescueRanger]

I still can’t believe that so many customers are buying the JF-17 !

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This is a bit emotional for us because for a long time no one believed in the JF-17. It was mocked, junk, lousy, and limited ...... until May 7, 2025.

Keep faith, dudes

"Chinese Junk" - Major Gobar
"Chini Jehaz" - General Bakhti
"Flying Dabba" - Republic TV

Fast forward to 2025...





A bird so good, it's even got fans in the Indian Airforce:

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"Chini Dabba" NUMBER 1!

 

[Dalit]

"Chinese Junk" - Major Gobar
"Chini Jehaz" - General Bakhti
"Flying Dabba" - Republic TV

Fast forward to 2025...
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A bird so good, it's even got fans in the Indian Airforce:
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"Chini Dabba" NUMBER 1!

Indians are pathetic.

 

[hussain0216]

Now Iraq Military diplomacy in full swing.

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Basically it's a PRODUCT

If a buyer thinks they have plenty of time and options, they will dawdle and drag their feet

If they suddenly see a whole bunch of buyers, jumping on the product, FOMO (Fear of missing out)
Comes into play and suddenly everyone comes out of the woodwork to place orders before they fail to get the product


So countries who were 'maybes' will be worried if they wait they could be YEARS in the waiting and their aren't great options at this price tag that can offer so much value and weapons options and flexibility



It's great

Its sales 101


The best bit however, is the salty salty salty tears of the Indians

Not only is the Tejas a dud, but their narrative of May 2025 comes under pressure with Indians in full scale DENIAL of what happened

 

[Serendipity]

What is the maximum production capacity for the JF 17. One wonders if all these militaries showing interesting in it have access to information in context of the Pak India conflict that isnt openly available.

 

[Yasser76]

And, they can pay for those JF17s with F16s that they are struggling to operate (yes, would require USA approval etc). Might be time for the FM to "test" the relationship with the USA for this now, see if there is something real there or not.

I was reading this is not as straight forward as it may seem. it is not just issue that they got no AMRAAMs with their Vipers. Apparently the radar and EW fit has been down graded compared to other export Vipers

 

[Ali_Baba]

I was reading this is not as straight forward as it may seem. it is not just issue that they got no AMRAAMs with their Vipers. Apparently the radar and EW fit has been down graded compared to other export Vipers

They will need an upgrade for sure, but the airframes are young so it makes an upgrade(even to V standard) more viable logically.

 

[Corax]

I think for many countries the appeal of the JF17 is relatively low risk affordable access to the PL15 if they can't get access to other sub 200km BVR missiles, especially in the context of the middle east. For example, for the Saudis, rather than going for the J10CE and incurring the wrath of the Yanks, procuring a "Pakistani" aircraft instead may be seen as more palatable for the US, but it still gives access to an AESA/PL15 equipped fighter with decent ECM and networking capabilities at relatively low cost.