bravo_1
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That's a drone
JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion
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We should be within our right of self defense to launch a tactical nuc on our own territory. Indians would be at fault for invading our territory. We have right of self defence using all means at our disposal. And when doing so India should be warned that a nuc attack on Pak territory will elicit a nuc attack on Indian territory and MAD. India should be covertly and overtly warned that we have thermonuclear city buster capability and will not hesitate to use this if our survival is at stake. Any notion that India will escape with minimal damage from a nuc exchange should be dispelled.
hasssanali8998
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yeah that is a drone , but a lot of brahmos were jammed . also these drones were shot down by villagers , even saw Dacoits shotting them down in videos
aurelianpilled
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Nigerian airstrikes helped foil coup attempt, Benin says
"The Nigerian strikes immobilised armoured vehicles and resulted in no loss of life, it said.""They then returned to the Togbin military base, according to the statement, where they were surrounded by soldiers and targeted by air strikes."
our jeffs precisely wiped out the fleeing coup plotters in benin, although they only have three JF-17s in their arsenal, the NAF has always used JF-17s in precision strikes against militants, so we can easily suppose that the Nigerians must have used Jeffs in this big operation
FuturePAF
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Gripen’s promo showed this as a hypothetical scenario, but the JF-17 demonstrated coup prevention in reality. Many in Africa are talking about Nigerian air power, and by implication, the application of the JF-17.
Glad to hear there was no loss of life in the employment of the JF-17. Congrats to the Nigerian Air Force and its JF-17s.
Ali_Baba
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The MMI ( Man Machine Interface ) on the Gripen-E is fantastic, very well designed to give a tactical overview. That is why I was disappointed that the JF17C did not adopt the LAFD but I think that was to keep training commonality(and muscle memory) between the J10CE/JF17 Block 1/2/3 series of aircraft.
Michael
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LOL.
Discussing advanced technology without considering the price is utterly unreasonable.
------ What is the unit price of the Gripen-E? What is the unit price of the JF-17B3?
If the PAF is willing to purchase the JF-17 at the price of the Gripen-E, ......
Ali_Baba
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A good MMI interface design doesn't cost you much to develop, it just needs the right people with the right skills and abilities and the cost of a LAFD is insignificant to compared to the cost of the overall platform.
In China, the Chinese engineers thought that hinges was still an appropriate design choice for canopy mechanism, when that issue from an engineering perspective was already a solved problem far more elegantly by every since aircraft out there, that even includes the Tejas. So, It has less to do with 'money', and more to do with the lack of common sense for that design choice that was made, and that which was in the 2020's. Don't reduce everything down to so called "pay me more money to do it properly", that is not always the root cause of decisions, just a way to obfuscate bad design decisions sometimes.
The folks are BAe are exploring with the display of the Typhoon on how to present information that is concise and informative to a fighter pilot, which Turkieye will get with their later variants.
BAe developed the above "outside of someone paying for it", they did it on a commercial basis to develop the product with a view that this may generate sales. None of this "we can do anything you want if you pay us enough nonsense", but pure growth of the platform for reasons of attempting to generate sales in the future.
Look how even a cheaper platform like the Hawk is getting a Large Area display. A Trainer..
Same with the Hurjet(another trainer).
I would "like" to think it was a logical choice to keep the 3 MFD setup to maintain training compatibility between the JF17/J10 series and not because of money where the cost difference is insignificant for the hardware.
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Michael
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I'm not a fighter jet designer, so I don't know why the JF-17 designers chose their design approach, nor do I know why designers of other fighter jets use their respective design methods.
If I have the opportunity to visit CAC again and meet the JF-17 designers, I can try to ask them.
A very interesting phenomenon:
The J-10CE fighter jets exported from China to Pakistan, as well as some JF-17B3s, are equipped with very advanced "fly helmets." However, the J-10C aircraft in the PLAAF's own inventory are only equipped with the relatively outdated "panda helmets," and the vast majority of J-20s and J-35As are also only equipped with "panda helmets."
Do you think this is due to insufficient military spending in China? Or are there other reasons?
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Pakistan Space Agency
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Nigerian JF-17 Thunders
Ibbi32
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Limiting nasrs range is exactly the point to make it abundantly clear that the sytsem isnt for strategic deterrence against strategic targets but a tactical highly versatile and mobile weapon against IA formations.
Pakistan Space Agency
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Nigerian JF-17 Thunder.
Reichmarshal
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10-15 brahmos per target were fired....had most not been jammed, there would have been a lot of damage and fatalities...this in addition to the drones fired by india.
AD did a good job
hasssanali8998
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but not good enough , we did the most with the ADs available to us but we need to improve it because next time iaf is going to just repeat this on larger scale
Tariq Habib Afridi
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10-15 per target is a very high number. it can be fired on some special 2 or 3 targets but for the rest i think the number was small?
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