Jinnah Class Frigate | Updates & Discussion

[Starlord]

why not 128?!

For the size of JCF I don't think 128 would be possible, but they could've change the design a little bit to increase the VLS to 32 cell instead of 16.

 

[Ak01]

For the size of JCF I don't think 128 would be possible, but they could've change the design a little bit to increase the VLS to 32 cell instead of 16.

i was taking the piss- but in its current form its limited below deck, they had to add a whole new module to accomodate 16 cells

 

[PakistaniDefender]

i was taking the piss- but in its current form its limited below deck, they had to add a whole new module to accomodate 16 cells

I think time has arrived for to procure 4 Type 052E(advance version of Type-52Ds).

 

[Ak01]

I think time has arrived for to procure 4 Type 052E(advance version of Type-52Ds).

and whys that

 

[PakistaniDefender]

and whys that

We Need LRSAMs for our surface fleets as well ports. Our Tughril and Jinnah class can't stand a chance against IN sheer number of destroyers and frigates. If we want our surface fleets to challenge IN incoming aggression, these destroyers will come handy with our frigates and destroyers. Also, thier long range radars can be integrated with our LRMPAs as well as PAF anti ship jets to provide a good battle zone data.

 

[Ak01]

If we want our surface fleets to challenge IN incoming aggression

we dont, thats the point. the pn sub fleet will do the heavy lifting.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

I think time has arrived for to procure 4 Type 052E(advance version of Type-52Ds).

Type 052D is the most advance version of 052 series.

052E do not exist as of now. However, there could be 052DE (Export version of 052D, not the advance version).

 

[Venom]

i was taking the piss- but in its current form its limited below deck, they had to add a whole new module to accomodate 16 cells

16 is plenty if they can quadpacked with camm-er or own LOMADS. Any idea if Turkish or French VLS can be added?
@Quwa

 

[Michael]

Type 052D is the most advance version of 052 series.

052E do not exist as of now. However, there could be 052DE (Export version of 052D, not the advance version).

The Type 052D destroyer actually has many sub-models.
052D / 052DL / 052DM ......
The most distinctive feature of this model is that some of its VLS units are H/HT-1 (9M). ------ The remaining VLS units are H/HT-1 (7M).

Regarding the export version of the Type 052D destroyer, current official information indicates that it differs from all versions of the Type 052D destroyer. In fact, it can be regarded as a slightly scaled-down version of the Type 052D destroyer.
It did not continue to use the “Type 052D” serial number. Its official designation is neither “Type 052DE” nor “Type 052E.” CSSC currently uses the name “Whale Shark - 6000” for export promotion purposes. Once it is officially exported, the countries that use it will rename it.

 

[Ak01]

16 is plenty if they can quadpacked with camm-er or own LOMADS. Any idea if Turkish or French VLS can be added?
@Quwa

Well, technically yes, there’s probably not much stopping it (potentially), but can they get them? Maybe? Is cost going to be reasonable- no. Sylver is the most expensive VLS setup to exist and mildas won’t be cheap either.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

we dont, thats the point. the pn sub fleet will do the heavy lifting.

What if they have Posiedon with their Carrier group. Then our submarines gonna be in trouble.

 

[Qureshi]

For the size of JCF I don't think 128 would be possible, but they could've change the design a little bit to increase the VLS to 32 cell instead of 16.

i was taking the piss- but in its current form its limited below deck, they had to add a whole new module to accommodate 16 cells

As evidenced by ASFAT’s proposed low-RCS 124 m, 3,600-tonne frigate “AS3600,” which features a two × 32-cell VLS layout.

Since the Jinnah-class frigate is influenced by this design, incorporating a two × 16-cell VLS configuration on the 3,300-tonne Jinnah-class is entirely feasible.

 

[Anonymous25]

As evidenced by ASFAT’s proposed low-RCS 124 m, 3,600-tonne frigate “AS3600,” which features a two × 32-cell VLS layout.

Since the Jinnah-class frigate is influenced by this design, incorporating a two × 16-cell VLS configuration on the 3,300-tonne Jinnah-class is entirely feasible.


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wouldn't cost be a big factor?

 

[Qureshi]

wouldn't cost be a big factor?

Cost is always a consideration in defense procurements, but such programs are never inexpensive to begin with.

That said, the additional strike capability offered by a two × 16-cell VLS on 6–8 planned vessels makes the incremental cost relatively modest and, in fact, cost-effective given the enhanced capability.

There are also chatter that PN is exploring VLS options for 4 F22P FFGs during their upcoming MLU program, which would further help reduce overall costs.

Additionally, available space on the Babur-class (Milgem) corvettes, could accommodate 4–6 extra VLS cells & the first two Yarmook-class OPVs.

Adopting this configuration would not only enhance the combat capabilities of these ships & add significant punch for the fleet, but also help mitigate the overall cost impact.

 

[Ak01]

What if they have Posiedon with their Carrier group. Then our submarines gonna be in trouble.

its never that easy, ASW is extremely challenging, its not a case of oh theres a p8 now game over