Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Yasser76]

Nice chatgpt u r using , i showed you photo and you come up with chatgpt lol

ok i will show you video , what u gonna use now ? google gemini ?

here is a video of hundreds of egyptian tanks 2 years ago next to israeli borders (few meters away)

Keep crying now

https://www.peaceau.org/uploads/separation-forces-agreement-sinai-egypt-1974.pdf

 

[Cipher212]

What is wrong with you, seems like you use the sam playbook as your chums @Watandar and @Owaiz

This is a defence pact. Countries will decide how to help each other and for sure we do not know all the details.

What is certain is that the same posters will jump into a thread with positive news on Pakistan, make facicious arguments they cannot support, get called out, then derail and go on about domestic problems.

DO YOU NOT THINK WE ALL SEE THIS!!!!????

You are clearly a RAW spy sent to reduce the quality of this forum by giving dumb takes. I think you live in either Mumbai or Delhi........just kidding.

See how dumb I sounded there? That's you basically. You can't handle any opinion that doesn't fit your worldview of Pakistan being part of some super Muslim NATO that you can't even stop and ask yourself how that would even work. Your understanding is low. You are more concerned with cheerleading rather than analysing. That's fine by me but please don't force it on the rest of us.

And of course, we are not in the military here but there are enough things in open source now that we can at least wargame it (to some extent).

Since my last post however I saw the official tweet from Saudi Arabia which supports my view more than yours. That this deal is more of a symbolic thing than an actual military cooperation pact.

That suggests to me that this is mainly a Saudi thing to show some deterrence towards Iran. I do find this funny because a much easier way for Saudi to be rid of any Iran threat is to just not host foreign militaries on its soil that take off from Saudi bases to bomb Iran.

 

[Yasser76]

apparently there are members here who argue just to waste time not to learn anything new and @Yasser76 is one of them ,, i show him a source and he denies it , i show him photos and videos and he denies it , so a block for him is better.

You show me Youtube, I show you an actual official agreement, cope harder

 

[Desert]

Bro Egypt is a big ally of Saudi Arabia, why wouldn't they join the pact. Or are you guys more close to UAE?

we aren't allies to al-saud , and we aren't allies to UAE.

sisi is an ally to uae not the egyptian army or the egyptian people and all our gears that was sent to uae we got it back.

 

[Yasser76]

You are clearly a RAW spy sent to reduce the quality of this forum by giving dumb takes. I think you live in either Mumbai or Delhi........just kidding.

See how dumb I sounded there? That's you basically. You can't handle any opinion that doesn't fit your worldview of Pakistan being part of some super Muslim NATO that you can't even stop and ask yourself how that would even work. Your understanding is low. You are more concerned with cheerleading rather than analysing. That's fine by me but please don't force it on the rest of us.

And of course, we are not in the military here but there are enough things in open source now that we can at least wargame it (to some extent).

Since my last post however I saw the official tweet from Saudi Arabia which supports my view more than yours. That this deal is more of a symbolic thing than an actual military cooperation pact.

That suggests to me that this is mainly a Saudi thing to show some deterrence towards Iran. I do find this funny because a much easier way for Saudi to be rid of any Iran threat is to just not host foreign militaries on its soil that take off from Saudi bases to bomb Iran.

Sorry, dont have time to read your BS, thanks for taking the time to type all that Vinay

 

[The SC]

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan addressed regional issues during his participation in the “Editors’ Table” platform of Anadolu Agency:

◄ Fidan stated that the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement is technically equivalent to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty regarding collective defense.

◄ He pointed out that the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement does not specify any specific “common threat.”

◄ Fidan added: “There is no country that does not attack us that is considered a target for us under the Joint Defense Agreement in Mecca.”

◄ The Turkish Foreign Minister clarified that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey, signatories to the joint defense agreement in Mecca, are not expansionist countries.

◄ He stressed that President Erdogan’s vision aims to expand the joint defense agreement in Mecca beyond the three countries, and could include all countries of the region under this framework if necessary.

◄ Fidan said that the agreement will include military exercises and training sessions, noting that this is inherent in the nature of joint military alliances. Without it, operational compatibility or the ability to operate uniformly cannot be demonstrated.

◄ He expressed his belief that Egypt will also be part of the agreement in the next stage.

 

[Yasser76]

we aren't allies to al-saud , and we aren't allies to UAE.

sisi is an ally to uae not the egyptian army or the egyptian people and all our gears that was sent to uae we got it back.

Head of Egypt and Egypt army are two different things now. How desperate do you sound....

 

[PakAl]

I've noticed that some alleged Pakistanis on this thread are having deep pains caused by this defence pact between Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia. Seems to be the SAME ones who call for "south asian solidarity"................

Not everybody, I always called for muslim unity and nato style agreement but it must not be aimed at other Muslim nations or for our troops to be used to kill people in Yemen, Libya and elsewhere. That is the only concern and Pakistanis have every right.

 

[Cipher212]

Sorry, dont have time to read your BS, thanks for taking the time to type all that Vinay

That's fine kiddo don't think you'd be able to read it without pictures anyway.

 

[Yasser76]

That's fine kiddo don't think you'd be able to read it without pictures anyway.

Cool cool, now off you go Prakesh...

 

[Cipher212]

Cool cool, now off you go Prakesh...

Sure thing, Rajesh. Are you on the night shift with Harmanpreet tonight?

 

[Yasser76]

Sure thing, Rajesh. Are you on the night shift with Harmanpreet tonight?

Indian hating on Indian names, keep it up.

 

[The SC]

Right back at you Mr moderator.
Nothing comes for free, Saudi Arabia always had Pakistani military at its disposal if anything threatened Saudia, we had 1000s of troops stationed in your lands for decades, to train your personal, we send 10,000s of troops to stop Saddam invasion of your lands, we sent pilots to defend arabs during Israeli wars.

So dont act like your doing anyone a favour, we are not your slaves. The same Saudi Arabia funded and trained extremism, fundamentalism and terrorism around the world, including Pakistan which led to deaths of 10,000s of our citizens and 200B economic loss so some Pakistanis have every right to be concerned, we dont want our troops fighting illegitimate Saudi terrorist wars, in Syria, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, which will lead to deaths of our troops and 10,000s of innocents people.

You have created all this post to justify lies ..

Read about 1971 in my post..were there any Pakistani troops in KSA???

 

[PakAl]

Then why is Iran not part of this alliance then? If it is not anti-Shia?

Iran has been calling for Muslim nato for a while now but Iran cannot be part of this pact, because they are in a war with the Usa and Israel. Muslims need to align their international policies, come to some kind of agreement and then the pact can be expanded. Soon Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Azerbaijan can join, they are already allies with Turkey and Saudia. When Egypt joins, Jordan who is Egyptian ally will be next. UAE is for the future.

 

[mythbuster]

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan addressed regional issues during his participation in the “Editors’ Table” platform of Anadolu Agency:

◄ Fidan stated that the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement is technically equivalent to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty regarding collective defense.

◄ He pointed out that the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement does not specify any specific “common threat.”

◄ Fidan added: “There is no country that does not attack us that is considered a target for us under the Joint Defense Agreement in Mecca.”

◄ The Turkish Foreign Minister clarified that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey, signatories to the joint defense agreement in Mecca, are not expansionist countries.

◄ He stressed that President Erdogan’s vision aims to expand the joint defense agreement in Mecca beyond the three countries, and could include all countries of the region under this framework if necessary.

◄ Fidan said that the agreement will include military exercises and training sessions, noting that this is inherent in the nature of joint military alliances. Without it, operational compatibility or the ability to operate uniformly cannot be demonstrated.

◄ He expressed his belief that Egypt will also be part of the agreement in the next stage.

Who will command the joint forces ?