Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

r3alist said:
I think it's the civilization vs civilization shape this is taking that's causing the anxiety, they talked the game when it was just Pakistan and they felt powerful.


As usual felt comfortable taking on smaller countries (even Maldives).

But this development implies Pakistani is central to Islamic developments, globally, and that enemies of the agreement are enemies of the core of Islam. You have to appreciate the emotional journey from where they think they are to the reality.



All these years of saying you are on your own forget these ideas, it's intended to atomise and deracinate Pakistan from other nations



I am hearing Indian think tanker's talk about winning turkey over and how come India not chosen, again the same ancestral trauma.
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Honestly they really are some of the worst strategicians ever. F**ked off the US, backed Israel, thought that "$4 Trillion economy saar!" would make the rich Saudis and Qataris back them. Iranian port investments....

Last 2 years or so India has messed up every major strategic decision. It is actually fun to watch....
 
Yasser76 said:
Honestly they really are some of the worst strategicians ever. F**ked off the US, backed Israel, thought that "$4 Trillion economy saar!" would make the rich Saudis and Qataris back them. Iranian port investments....

Last 2 years or so India has messed up every major strategic decision. It is actually fun to watch....
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India has what can be best described as ' battered b*tch syndrome ' .
 
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flyingorca said:
I use Imran khan supporters humorous logic when responding to Pro PTI posts.

Anyways, even India has to get permission from US to purchase oil from Russia.
Honestly imran khan popularity was in the decline during 2022 period and his only way out was to make such a bold move to piss off America (where most of PTI warriors are hiding) and gain public sympathy from emotionallycharged awam. Why didnt Imran Khan try to secure that cheap oil before Russia Ukraine war?
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India is an elephant of a country with 1.5 billion people and much better lobbying than us. They also are not AS compromised by US influence as we are. So America couldn't really force them not to go for that cheaper oil. Although they still manage to put some restrictions on India via tariffs.

Pakistan on the other hand complied immediately. Although the Prime Minister wasn't listening it didn't matter. They can just go around an authoritative PM and call their buddies in GHQ.

At the time, they started doing propaganda that Pakistan can't process the Russian crude oil anyway (later on they admitted that it was a lie)

Im not going to answer your lies on PTI because I keep getting earned for going off topic and it's not like you'll ever listen anyways.

Let us see where this enlightened Fauj takes us in the next 4 years with these cool pacts. The last 4 years have been great too yes?
 
Cipher212 said:
India is an elephant of a country with 1.5 billion people and much better lobbying than us. They also are not AS compromised by US influence as we are. So America couldn't really force them not to go for that cheaper oil. Although they still manage to put some restrictions on India via tariffs.

Pakistan on the other hand complied immediately. Although the Prime Minister wasn't listening it didn't matter. They can just go around an authoritative PM and call their buddies in GHQ.

At the time, they started doing propaganda that Pakistan can't process the Russian crude oil anyway (later on they admitted that it was a lie)

Im not going to answer your lies on PTI because I keep getting earned for going off topic and it's not like you'll ever listen anyways.

Let us see where this enlightened Fauj takes us in the next 4 years with these cool pacts. The last 4 years have been great too yes?
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So many words, so little facts. Yeah, try and stay on topic. Your cherished Indian lobbying has got them higher tarrifs and Trump no longer taking Modi's calls, delegating to Vance.

Hurts right?
 
2 countries shoud never be allowed. Emiraties and Iran, the rest off Islamic world is welcome.
 
The SC said:
So for you..the Houthis are innocent people!?

Now you just showed your real Ikhwani face and that alone justifies your negative stance about KSA..
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You are smart , aren't you ? : ))
how come I'm Ikhwani (MB) and in the same time I attack the Turkish leadership ?
and Ya , Houthis are innocent and were attacked first , so why crying about them when they attack back?
 
Yasser76 said:
Honestly they really are some of the worst strategicians ever. F**ked off the US, backed Israel, thought that "$4 Trillion economy saar!" would make the rich Saudis and Qataris back them. Iranian port investments....

Last 2 years or so India has messed up every major strategic decision. It is actually fun to watch....
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Ancient civilizations have in common a sense of purpose, the understanding of sacrifice and taking risks to perpetuate goals




Those guys are theoreticians extrordinaiire on how NOT to be like a civilizational state, scrutinize the non material, ignore the lessons being given, bravado.......it's not the last 2 or 20, Tejas outdates this 🤣
 
The facts:

Türkiye is a member of NATO and was subjected to 3 attacks from Iran. Why did NATO not attack Iran?

America is a member of NATO and is fighting Iran. Why did NATO not participate?

The participation of members of any military alliance in a military operation requires that one of the alliance members activate the joint defense mechanism, and this is a basic condition for the participation of the rest of the members.

Pakistan faced war with India and Saudi Arabia did not participate
A year ago, Pakistan was subjected to missile attacks from Iran, and no one participated

Each country will face the risks on its own without the need to activate the joint defense agreement, unless the country believes that the danger is an existential threat that requires the intervention of allied countries to defend it.

Saudi Arabia’s current risks are against militias such as the Houthis and the Al-Bowari Mobilization Forces, and both files do not require the intervention of any coalition or the activation of defense agreements.

The same applies to Turkey with the Kurdistan Workers' Party

The situation is also similar to the Pakistani situation against the Baloch and the border clashes with Afghanistan

This is a joint defense agreement at a very high level that is activated and all members participate in it in exceptional cases

Otherwise, the situation does not require military intervention. Rather, industrial, intelligence, and political cooperation is sufficient

Its importance is very great, and instead of mentioning its benefits at length, it is enough to watch the global media hype around it to demonstrate its importance.
 
Yasser76 said:
So many words, so little facts. Yeah, try and stay on topic. Your cherished Indian lobbying has got them higher tarrifs and Trump no longer taking Modi's calls, delegating to Vance.

Hurts right?
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My cherished what? Bro how old are you 🤣

If you have any proof of me being a jeetu then present it to the mods or buzz off.
 
r3alist said:
Ancient civilizations have in common a sense of purpose, the understanding of sacrifice and taking risks to perpetuate goals




Those guys are theoreticians extrordinaiire on how NOT to be like a civilizational state, scrutinize the non material, ignore the lessons being given, bravado.......it's not the last 2 or 20, Tejas outdates this 🤣
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Honestly, I remember a few years back, maybe 2-3 years ago, Indian Army chief had a very rare visit to KSA. As per custom he got a guard of honour. I kid you not, the Indians on here were jumping up and down as COAS was not given a guard of honour (as Munir viist KSA so often it is seen as wasting time). Indians actually thought KSA was dumping Pakistan and would back India

How do you even properly deal with such a twisted, small and messed up mindset like that.

Now look how things panned out...
 
Cipher212 said:
My cherished what? Bro how old are you 🤣

If you have any proof of me being a jeetu then present it to the mods or buzz off.
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Calm down dear. I just pointed out your beloved Indian lobbying efforts failed. You were boasting about them. Lets stick to subject now or you keen to make this about India as usual?
 
Greek media: The tripartite defense agreement may change the balance in the eastern Mediterranean

The Greek-based newspaper Pentavostagma wrote that the tripartite defense agreement said to have been signed between Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is being closely followed in Athens.

In the report, an assessment was noted stating that the in-depth military and strategic cooperation between the three countries constitutes, from the point of view of Greek diplomacy, a new security equation.

Pentaphostagma indicated that this cooperation may not be limited to the defense industry only, but may be the beginning of a new process that may affect the geopolitical and military balances in the Eastern Mediterranean.

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