Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Ali_Baba]

For this agreement, we have spoken about the impact of this on various countries in the region but the one that is being missed out is Greece.

It was one thing for Greece to team up with Israel, to have a Greece + Israel vs Türkiye security construct but with the advent of this treaty, it also puts Greece against Saudi and Pakistan on top of Türkiye.

Greece would need to think about the implications of this for its security framework and whether the roadmap for the "Hexagon Alliance" (i.e. Israel, India, Greece and Cyprus) is now in its interests or not. The game has changed for Greece significantly as well, and the moves that both Israel and Greece were making, need to be rethought significantly. Does Greece double down, or does it rethink and recalibrate out of what was once a ever closer engagement with Israel ?

 

[MMM-E]

Greece would need to think about the implications of this for its security framework and whether the roadmap for the "Hexagon Alliance" (i.e. Israel, India, Greece and Cyprus) is now in its interests or not. The game has changed for Greece significantly as well, and the moves that both Israel and Greece were making, need to be rethought significantly. Does Greece double down, or does it rethink and recalibrate out of what was once a ever closer engagement with Israel ?

 

[Yasser76]

For this agreement, we have spoken about the impact of this on various countries in the region but the one that is being missed out is Greece.

It was one thing for Greece to team up with Israel, to have a Greece + Israel vs Turkieye security construct but with the advent of this treaty, it puts Greece against Saudi and Pakistan on top of Turkieye.

Greece would need to think about the implications of this for its security framework and whether the roadmap for the "Hexagon Alliance" (i.e. Israel, India, Greece and Cyprus) is now in its interests or not. The game has changed for Greece significantly as well, and the moves that both Israel and Greece were making, need to be rethought significantly. Does Greece double down, or does it rethink and recalibrate out of what was once a ever closer engagement with Israel ?

To be fair, once Turks get F-35 and/or KAAN it is pretty much game over for Greece anyway, Turks do not need our help here.

Geography means there will be little opportunity for mass land battles, and if there is Turkish equipment and experiance will see them through easily.

Naval wise ditto. They just need to requip their air force now, and quickly, but they seem to have a clear and workable roadmap here.

Not sure what Greece could actually offer as an ally to Israel

 

[Eşbah]

For this agreement, we have spoken about the impact of this on various countries in the region but the one that is being missed out is Greece.

It was one thing for Greece to team up with Israel, to have a Greece + Israel vs Turkieye security construct but with the advent of this treaty, it puts Greece against Saudi and Pakistan on top of Turkieye.

Greece would need to think about the implications of this for its security framework and whether the roadmap for the "Hexagon Alliance" (i.e. Israel, India, Greece and Cyprus) is now in its interests or not. The game has changed for Greece significantly as well, and the moves that both Israel and Greece were making, need to be rethought significantly. Does Greece double down, or does it rethink and recalibrate out of what was once a ever closer engagement with Israel ?

Apaches braced for UAE drone hunting | eKathimerini.com

Greece is considering sending two AH-64D Apache attack helicopters to the United Arab Emirates to help strengthen the country’s defenses against drone attacks, according to well-informed sources.

www.ekathimerini.com

They're firmly in the pro-Israel/pro-Emirati Zionist camp. Now even signaling to the Saudis their disapproval of the alliance.




The change comes shortly after Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan signed a defense cooperation agreement that includes a mutual-assistance clause in the event that one of the parties comes under attack.

The agreement has raised concerns in Athens about the implications of Saudi Arabia’s closer defense ties with Turkey and Pakistan for Greece’s broader strategic relationship with Riyadh.

Greece has sought to deepen ties with Saudi Arabia in areas including defense, energy and infrastructure, while promoting the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor, or IMEC, as a strategic route linking India with Europe through the Middle East.

Greece shifts Saudi Patriot mission to monthly review | eKathimerini.com

Greece has changed the extension of its military mission in Saudi Arabia from an annual to a monthly basis, reflecting what officials describe as the rapidly changing geopolitical situation in the region.

www.ekathimerini.com

Ofc, they don't have the balls to withdraw the Patriots.

 

[Watandar]

1. It is not surprising that previous attempts failed. Countries without their own defense industry depend on foreign sources.
2. The fact that Turkey has not fought Israel so far does not mean it will not fight in the future. We Turks have avoided entering a full scale war for 100 years. We have been working hard to develop our defense industry for the last 60 years.
3. This alliance is not against anyone, but countries that cause instability and terrorism are uncomfortable with it.

The stability and peace brought by the alliance members to Afghanistan , Iraq, Yemen and Syria in the last 25 years supports your contention.

 

[Owaiz]

For this agreement, we have spoken about the impact of this on various countries in the region but the one that is being missed out is Greece.

It was one thing for Greece to team up with Israel, to have a Greece + Israel vs Türkiye security construct but with the advent of this treaty, it also puts Greece against Saudi and Pakistan on top of Türkiye.

Greece would need to think about the implications of this for its security framework and whether the roadmap for the "Hexagon Alliance" (i.e. Israel, India, Greece and Cyprus) is now in its interests or not. The game has changed for Greece significantly as well, and the moves that both Israel and Greece were making, need to be rethought significantly. Does Greece double down, or does it rethink and recalibrate out of what was once a ever closer engagement with Israel ?

That analysis is based on the simplistic and flawed premise that the signatories to this agreement are going to surrender their individual sovereignty and have a unified foreign policy. Saudi Arabia and Greece have no areas of conflict. Why will either abandon their relationship for the sake of Turkiye or Israel. In fact, Turkiye itself recognises and maintains a working relationship with Israel. In any case, the Saudis are the "net security receivers" and "net $$$ providers" in this agreement. They are not expected to help Turkiye and Pakistan militarily.

 

[Desert]

Why are you pretending Egypt today is Nasser's egypt. And completely dodge the point about Egyptian military officers in Tel Aviv, you think Egyptian Military officers would be in Tel Aviv with Israelis if Israel viewed Egypt as a threat?

Nasser's egypt? Egypt fought israel during farouk,nassrr,saddat and eveb diplomatically in 80s during mubarak.
whats's your point about the egyptian officers in tel aviv? We have signed a peace treaty with them, we have to coordinate with them about the borders , what are you talking about ? Are you you referring that we buy from israel military gears same as turkey buys from them?

 

[MMM-E]

Are you you referring that we buy from israel military gears same as turkey buys from them?

in 2000s Turkiye bought HERON UAV and POPEYE Cruise Missile from Israel

since 2010 , Turkiye is buying nothing from Israel
now Turkiye has far better defense Industry than Israel

Israel doesnt have naval and aviation also Engine technologies

 

[MMM-E]

Not sure what Greece could actually offer as an ally to Israel

nothing except being a pawn to die for Israeli interests

GAME OVER FOR Israel-Greece
USA never can fight NATO member Turkiye , OPEC Leader Saudi Arabia , Nuclear Power Pakistan

and Israel-Greece even can not go to toilet without American support-protection

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The stability and peace brought by the alliance members to Afghanistan , Iraq, Yemen and Syria in the last 25 years supports your contention.

Stability could never be brought to afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria as these nations NEVER developed their defence industries nor did they adequately develop their militaries either. So they became lambs to the slaughter for the genocidal racist colonialists.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

To be fair, once Turks get F-35 and/or KAAN it is pretty much game over for Greece anyway, Turks do not need our help here.

Geography means there will be little opportunity for mass land battles, and if there is Turkish equipment and experiance will see them through easily.

Naval wise ditto. They just need to requip their air force now, and quickly, but they seem to have a clear and workable roadmap here.

Not sure what Greece could actually offer as an ally to Israel

According to the Turkish defence analysts they know how to detect F-35s and take them down. As for the French systems, tney do get undermined as shown during ops Sindoor....

 

[Eşbah]

Gentlemen, please, the topic is SA-PAK-TR alliance.

 

[krash]

No, he was Agnostic Muslim. I believe you have to perform certain acts to be Shia which he never did. Go to Iran if you love them so much. Why are you earing zionist dollars in America?

So the Houthis just hit Saudi Arabia I guess? Do we have to do something now as per the pact or was it just symbolism.





He was from a Shia family, he was a Khoja from Gujrat his name was literally JINNAH.

Don't worry about my location I would suggest you leave Pakistan ASAP because otherwise you're just extending a Shia's legacy.

Time for you two to grow up and not spray others with your foul insecurities. You will affirm or deny another's faith? Who are you? And if he was from either or another, then what? Hate to break it to you but neither of you or your groups get to piggy back off him.

The Quaid was asked this question, google his famous answer. If you can't learn from him then at least don't drag him into your idiotic nonsense.

 

[Yasser76]

Israelis seem worried, now looking to India and those military power houses Romania, Bulgaria and South/Occupied Cyprus. Full panic mode. Article also rightly points out the India/Israel IMEC corridor that relied on Saudi Arabia is unlkely to go ahead.

Defense pact between Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan will boost India-Israel ties | The Jerusalem Post

Ties with Greece and Cyprus are also likely to benefit from the agreement, with Athens and Nicosia as concerned about an expanded Turkish footprint in the eastern Mediterranean as Jerusalem is.

www.jpost.com

 

[The SC]

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi:

China supports the "Mecca Agreement" between Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan, and calls for the establishment of a security pact between China and Islamic countries

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