Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) Terrorism Watch

Please DO tell entire Pakistani awam WHO settled TTP fighters back in Pakistan? Because ex PM Imran Khan and other members of his cabinet totally deny those charges. 🙄
They can deny all they want. Whoever wants to be left holding the bag? Obviously he and his party will deny.
 
There are clashes, heavy firing at 4 different places on afghan pak border. now tell me what's the solution? how can we protect our soil from afghan terrorist? do you guys have any solution? yesterday we lost 17. today we lost 11. my solution was right but i am thread banned from commenting on ttp chief killed thread. their fm didn't even return from india and now they have openly started attacking pak army. As i said earlier, we have to make them extinct so we should seriously think about some kind of low yield nuclear attack. There is no other solution. Look at police training center. they even attacked them. They will attack easy targets and then they will move towards bigger cities. We have no option except going nuclear.
 
Source? Do you have any evidence to back your claim?
Evidence to show you what? The constant about-turns from IK and his party? Ok he denies it. Nobody else buys it. So it's his word against that of anyone else's. If you read my posts above, I said put the blame on the Army/ISI but just as much blame goes on him as he was sitting in governance being on the same page as Bajwa/Faiz.

Like I said, show me one solution that will solve the TTP problem.

See this thread: https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...k-with-afghanistan-over-the-ttp-threat.27634/
 
Folks, last one from me. If ppl got offended by my PoV, I want to qualify, I don't hate any political party or leader as such. I am voicing my concerns about the TTP threat. We used to complain about the same in Punjab when the Lal Masjid issue transpired with all these extremists were being given space. The critique is no different today.
 
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مختصرا ڈی جی آئی ایس پی آر نے اپنی ساڑھے تین سال کی بدترین ناکامیوں ، تین ہزار افسران و جوانوں کی موت ، دو صوبوں میں بربادی کا ملبہ اس شخص پر ڈالنے کی کوشش کی ہے جو دو سال سے فوج ہی کی قید میں ہے۔​
 
Folks, last one from me. If ppl got offended by my PoV, I want to qualify, I don't hate any political party or leader as such. I am voicing my concerns about the TTP threat. We used to complain about the same in Punjab when the Lal Masjid issue transpired with all these extremists were being given space. The critique is no different today.
No hard feelings bro. 🫂
 
Oh, I see, since you quoted IK I should just take his words as the gospel. Nobody even knows who posts these.
Because you are no match to him, his words are carrying a lot of wisdom and I believe you do not have any relation with that word wisdom lol
 
Because you are no match to him, his words are carrying a lot of wisdom and I believe you do not have any relation with that word wisdom lol
Clearly the wisdom that he is dispensing has not touched many of his supporters. Thus the option of last resort i.e. personal attacks seen here. Carry on carrying on!
 
The last 5 seconds, as I mentioned (post #81), he says the "Intelligence walon ne kiya". I already gave the context since the intelligence walay made happen what was decided by the government. The decision was political, he specifically says "GOVERNMENT" got in the middle of something that should have been handled by the Jirga. Whose government? The same one-page government. If the blame is on the then military/intelligence leadership, fair enough, at least just as much of the blame rests on the government of the day.
This should answer this part of the post

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Yeh bhi theek hai, sahi cheezain Bajwa kay naam daal do, baki har cheez IK kay naam. Kia yeh khula tazaad nhn?
I should also highlight in response to your point "IDK why PTI is the number 1 enemy of the state right now". The issue is one of implementing NAP to defeat terrorism in KP. That means launching kinetic operations at a much greater scale above and beyond the IBOs and then having the provincial government tackle all of the law and order, prosecution, governance issues the NAP highlights. IK has already said "No Operations". He has told his PTI leadership to not cooperate with the center. So how could you, or anyone for that matter, leave this responsibility off the KP/PTI provincial government? Everyday the PTI curses the provincial government in Punjab and Sind, for right and wrong reasons, for issues big and small. So why would the onus not be with the KP PTI government then to implement NAP?
Is PTI the roadblock to implementing NAP in Balochistan? I mean come on sir, I certainly do no expect such reductionist views from you.

You're saying mulk main dehshatgardi khatam karnay main roadblock is waqt PTI hai? So why was it coming down when PTI was actually in power? Now that they are NOT in power, terrorism is on the rise? As if PTI activated some sleeper cells all of a sudden?

Heck, it was PTI's own government in KP from 2013 onwards, arguably one of the highest intensity times if not THE highest intensity.

If you're going to come from a point where you want the other party to lick your boots, rather than as a duly elected representative of the people, you are going to continue with this impasse.

@Agnostic Muslim put the other intangible aspect of disenfranchisment much better than me. You're not going to achieve that without having a political process, beshak jitni marzi press conferences kar lo.

Forget PTI cult followers jahil, look at the neutral journalists, civil society, any random person on Twitter, and all are puzzled and questioning this whole presser. Even the American knew to win hearts and minds!
 
Pakistan supported Taliban because Pakistan wanted to ensure that its rear-guard (Western border) was relatively secure. This was the calculation made then based on the assessment on the ground.

As to why Taliban and India are mending fences, it is because of the former's need to gain greater acceptance and the latter's need to keep Pakistan on its toes.

What is IAF and why would we support it? I am not sure what you are alluding to.

Terrorism emanates from outside (and whether civilian or military government, they have all had to fend it off). As an example, ZAB started the campaign against Baloch terrorism and because of the geo-pol, this will continue. Same goes for India in IoK etc. etc.
I have written this multiple times, Afghanistan will not rest easy till they have all of KP. This is the reality of the situation. Second, India will continue to support terrorism against Pakistan because it is their state policy for as long as Pakistan does not surrender its claim on Kashmir.

So if you want to get rid of terrorists, you have one of two options. Take your pick. Your majoritarian PTI rule cannot add another to these options.
a) Surrender Pakistan's stance on Kashmir and accept India's dominion over it. Plus, let Afghanistan decide the fate of Durand Line as they see fit. These two will IMMEDIATELY lead to reduction of terrorism inside of Pakistan.
b) Fight the terrorists and their foreign abettors and pay with blood and treasure.

There is no middle ground. PTI/IK are not going to get the Afghan government to stop supporting TTP in its quest for imposition of their version of nizam inside Pakistan. Similarly, IK/PTI can do nothing but to take on India as the current and past governments have done.

So you can sit there and curse the policies of the past and blame them all on Khaki, as is your prerogative, but you have nothing better to offer.

There is not one post here from any of the Army bashers to state with clarity, what their solution for addressing terrorism inside of Pakistan is.
It was ISAF, International Security Assistance Force.. fat fingers...and auto correct ...
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Terrorism should be eradicated, that is not the the point of disagreement.
Point is terrorism, destabilization is the result of the control and policies of one party! The Army Party! who are controlling Pakistan's external, internal, security policies for at least since 1958.
Policies cannot be left on the discretion of elements whose only focus is self interest who are a spectacular disaster for the country.

Countries have armies, there is an Army Who Has a Country.
 
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Idealism has led us here in the first place.
I meant to say your answer is deflective.... Whataboutist

And army is not state, but an estate. control by gun does not make them state, but lawless gun slingers.
And that control is illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, illicit.
If Taliban and ttp can get more guns with help from India ...
Long live the gun slingers.
 

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