Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Oscar]

Is this actually confirmed or just someone rehashing a video on social media?

 

[Hussain]

Is this actually confirmed or just someone rehashing a video on social media?

confirmed, have more details, but not posting until I get 100% confirmation

 

[Oscar]

confirmed, have more details, but not posting until I get 100% confirmation

Until it actually shows up on reliable feeds - best to not speculate then.

 

[Hussain]

Until it actually shows up on reliable feeds - best to not speculate then.

deleted the post

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

So?

So?
So why bring this up?

If it was a trap you got me!

They are arabs are they not?

So?
The point being?
Why say najd to begin with...
As I said... your gotcha just caught me off guard.

How are Hashemites - who currently are in Jordan - come from the Quraysh - ok to rule this area of Levant then?

Again, you set it up beautifully...
Just to say what you wanted to all along...

They actually ruled Hijaz through the British and are actually from Makkah... was that also objectionable to you?

Why?

Hijaz was ruled by people with origins in Syria, Iraq, Egypt - far away - did you cry a river for them?

I get the single Hadiath on Najd in Bukhari - while Muwatta which is the older text only says east - which drives the core of the modern attack against the house of Saud.

Got exactly what you said here...
You lean directional najd and the region.

That was first used(in its uncollected referenced format prior to it even being compiled as a Hadith) "weaponized" back against the Khwarij of Iraq because they were from the east and practiced Takfir - and then later by Ottoman and Hijazi ulema against Abdul Wahab because he practiced Takfir.

Abdul Wahab did takfir on own brother...
We know where it took us...

Back then it was just the east - in this context it became the area of Najd.
That does not absolve that the Saudis have not collaborated with the west or otherwise - nor does take away that your argument that someone from Najd cannot be custodian of the mosques is completely invalid.

I did not make that argument.

Unfortunately, your bias is now extremely visible for reasons I don't want to speculate on - and that is also proving your logic and even a moral or ethical stance on the situation a house of cards.

I see the attempts to patronize me or my opinion didn't bare any fruits. The same Iranians hated me for my comments... they still assume a hidden motive or agenda.
If it isn't, it isn't!

And I'd not be pandering to anyone's views...
I want Makkah pact to succeed, a baby step if anything in the right direction...
And we ain't there yet.

 

[Hussain]

Until it actually shows up on reliable feeds - best to not speculate then.

 

[BaybarsHan]

The one thing I am unsure is if this Mecca pact 10-years too late or 10-years too early to make any difference in the region.

It comes at just the right time; Saudi Arabia (Saudi America) wasn't politically ready for such a pact. They had paid a great deal of money, hoping to become untouchable. The world has now reached a point where nothing else matters anymore. Money in the bank doesn't protect against missiles. Protection requires intelligence and technologically advanced weapons in large quantities.

 

[Oscar]

So?
So why bring this up?

If it was a trap you got me!



So?
The point being?
Why say najd to begin with...
As I said... your gotcha just caught me off guard.


Again, you set it up beautifully...
Just to say what you wanted to all along...



Why?


Got exactly what you said here...
You lean directional najd and the region.



Abdul Wahab did takfir on own brother...
We know where it took us...



I did not make that argument.



I see the attempts to patronize me or my opinion didn't bare any fruits. The same Iranians hated me for my comments... they still assume a hidden motive or agenda.
If it isn't, it isn't!

And I'd not be pandering to anyone's views...
I want Makkah pact to succeed, a baby step if anything in the right direction...
And we ain't there yet.

"Saudis started it...
This conflict is older than both me and you... going back to the British colonial days. Saudis occupy the same lands Brits did... fighting the same war they initiated to occupy as much of peninsula as possible... where they now occupy and rule Yemeni lands."

Saudis are from Najd - how do they occupy their own lands?
How do they occupy lands which have switched hands over thousands of years.
There is no gotcha - you made the allegation - prove it.