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So?
So why bring this up?

If it was a trap you got me!


They are arabs are they not?
So?
The point being?
Why say najd to begin with...
As I said... your gotcha just caught me off guard.

How are Hashemites - who currently are in Jordan - come from the Quraysh - ok to rule this area of Levant then?
Again, you set it up beautifully...
Just to say what you wanted to all along...


They actually ruled Hijaz through the British and are actually from Makkah... was that also objectionable to you?
Why?

Hijaz was ruled by people with origins in Syria, Iraq, Egypt - far away - did you cry a river for them?

I get the single Hadiath on Najd in Bukhari - while Muwatta which is the older text only says east - which drives the core of the modern attack against the house of Saud.
Got exactly what you said here...
You lean directional najd and the region.


That was first used(in its uncollected referenced format prior to it even being compiled as a Hadith) "weaponized" back against the Khwarij of Iraq because they were from the east and practiced Takfir - and then later by Ottoman and Hijazi ulema against Abdul Wahab because he practiced Takfir.
Abdul Wahab did takfir on own brother...
We know where it took us...

Back then it was just the east - in this context it became the area of Najd.
That does not absolve that the Saudis have not collaborated with the west or otherwise - nor does take away that your argument that someone from Najd cannot be custodian of the mosques is completely invalid.

I did not make that argument.

Unfortunately, your bias is now extremely visible for reasons I don't want to speculate on - and that is also proving your logic and even a moral or ethical stance on the situation a house of cards.

I see the attempts to patronize me or my opinion didn't bare any fruits. The same Iranians hated me for my comments... they still assume a hidden motive or agenda.
If it isn't, it isn't!

And I'd not be pandering to anyone's views...
I want Makkah pact to succeed, a baby step if anything in the right direction...
And we ain't there yet.
 
The one thing I am unsure is if this Mecca pact 10-years too late or 10-years too early to make any difference in the region.
It comes at just the right time; Saudi Arabia (Saudi America) wasn't politically ready for such a pact. They had paid a great deal of money, hoping to become untouchable. The world has now reached a point where nothing else matters anymore. Money in the bank doesn't protect against missiles. Protection requires intelligence and technologically advanced weapons in large quantities.
 
So?
So why bring this up?

If it was a trap you got me!



So?
The point being?
Why say najd to begin with...
As I said... your gotcha just caught me off guard.


Again, you set it up beautifully...
Just to say what you wanted to all along...



Why?


Got exactly what you said here...
You lean directional najd and the region.



Abdul Wahab did takfir on own brother...
We know where it took us...



I did not make that argument.



I see the attempts to patronize me or my opinion didn't bare any fruits. The same Iranians hated me for my comments... they still assume a hidden motive or agenda.
If it isn't, it isn't!

And I'd not be pandering to anyone's views...
I want Makkah pact to succeed, a baby step if anything in the right direction...
And we ain't there yet.

"Saudis started it...
This conflict is older than both me and you... going back to the British colonial days. Saudis occupy the same lands Brits did... fighting the same war they initiated to occupy as much of peninsula as possible... where they now occupy and rule Yemeni lands."

Saudis are from Najd - how do they occupy their own lands?
How do they occupy lands which have switched hands over thousands of years.
There is no gotcha - you made the allegation - prove it.
 
"Saudis started it...
This conflict is older than both me and you... going back to the British colonial days. Saudis occupy the same lands Brits did... fighting the same war they initiated to occupy as much of peninsula as possible... where they now occupy and rule Yemeni lands."

I shared the link even to Ms. Gamaji earlier


Saudis continue to occupy Asir, Jizan and Najran

Treaty of Jeddah


Removal of Saleh... from president to a dissident.


The British colonial rule of Yemen and Aden protectorate


To the PLC now under Saudis

There is no gotcha - you made the allegation - prove it.
As it stands ... it isn't me pushing down this tangent to prove a point....


Beyond rhetoric or jargon there isn't much substance behind the passion.
 
Is this actually confirmed or just someone rehashing a video on social media?
Yeah nothing on actual news feeds really good reason to double triple check twitter feeds if it doesn’t pop up on legitimate news sites within the hour most likely just fake or something that happened in the past
 
if that news of possible failed suicide attack is true, then its pathetic state of affairs of the Muslim world, and I can't wait for people to come justify that as well just like they did with attack on Mecca and now Medina's power plant.
 
The problem you've got with the iranian aligned sectarians, when it comes to killing Muslims they've always been exposed to have been making backdoor deals with the isrealis/americans. We've seen it in iraq, syria, afghanistan etc.

As the iranians sink further and further into the abyss they created for themselves, their exactly the kind of people who would be happy to plunge the rest of the Muslim world into the darkness with them.

They have a crabs in a barrel mentality, if their losers everyone else regionally also has to be a loser.

The danger of course is that isrealis/americans have always been quick to use these opportunities to stir sectarians conflicts within the region to further their own ambitions.

From the iranian perspective, the best thing they could do to take isreali pressure of their backs would be to target muslims, since the killing of muslims is also good for isreal it would mean they would step back from iran the same way they used assad.

Long story short, these instigations over the holy sites are traps, Muslims shouldn't fall into them
 
Zion irked you right? Cause that is exactly what will come out of your mouth next!

International community demands it!
I asked you yesterday to produce numbers on who's terrorists killed more....
From first Afghan war to Bosnia, Chechnya, East Turkestan... within Pakistan itself... ones Pakistan used against itself.... second Afghan war....

I'm sure you'll tell me that it wasn't Saddam who invaded Iran... Iranians asked for it...

I'm waiting!
Buzargho..... Iranians had hemmoroid since the revolution and you are taking those hemmoroid as gallantry awards... it's a matter of perspective and your perspective is below the naval.
 
Buzargho..... Iranians had hemmoroid since the revolution and you are taking those hemmoroid as gallantry awards... it's a matter of perspective and your perspective is below the naval.

Everyone knows something, right‽

They're bringing it upon themselves, right‽
The zionist project doesn't complete without abolishing all centers of power in Mideast. That is not me saying, that is ones doing it and calling the shots saying.
But I cannot change your mind... because you think you have it figured out.
 
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar said on Friday that an emergency meeting of the strategic political and defence committee under the Makkah Joint Defence Agreement between Pakistan, Türkiye and Saudi Arabia would be held next week in Riyadh.
 

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