Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Mujahid]

Resistance members and revolutionaries

 

[El Sidd]

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That's neither up for debate nor these facts are focus of discussion.

But there are many schools of thoughts, one of which proposes a noble lineage which has a divine right to rule over others as Gods anointed representative who God secretly guides and consults.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

If

That "if" is way back on the past and the process of entropy hasn't come to a full stop yet.

The fact is that the core Shi'i realm has remained largely intact while Sunnis are still running with a sieve to deem those with difference of opinion on secular leadership as apostates. That is crux of the matter with the Saudi rule... that swings on the pendulum that is essentially agnostic... swinging to where needed with a nudge.
The process to collect and reunite is further down the road.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Genghiz khan and his family was also biggest fitna of 12 century but Allah raised Berke khan from his clan..

Hazrat Khalid bin waleed (R.A) was raised under a father whom Allah cursed in Quran..

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Musalaimah the liar was killed by sahaba Wahshi ibn herb (R.A), the same sahaba who martyred Hazrat Hamza (R.A)

Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz (R.A) was born in Umayyad clan whose forefathers unjustifiably took Hazrat Ali (R.A) and his sons khilafat and martyred Hazrat Hussain (R.A), but he turned out to be the best Khalifa after Hazrat Usman (R.A) from tge same clan and he is regarded well in Muslims.

And finally..

Hazrat Musa (A.S) was also raised in pharaoh palace but Allah raised him as a prophet..

It doesn’t matter who ur forefathers were it matter who u are..

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Non sequiturs.
What we have is here and now... not a hypothetical.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

You want to finish first?

Start... the opposite end.

 

[El Sidd]

Start... the opposite end.

Begin with when the dam broke in the land of Sheba and people dispersed only to unite once in their lives again under Abraha.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Begin with when the dam broke in the land of Sheba and people dispersed only to unite once in their lives again under Abraha.

You're in the wrong fight and most importantly wrong time!

 

[Mujahid]

That's neither up for debate nor these facts are focus of discussion.

But there are many schools of thoughts, one of which proposes a noble lineage which has a divine right to rule over others as Gods anointed representative who God secretly guides and consults.

It was only the Prophets and nobody after that.. There no such thing as only noble lineage have divine right to rule after Prophets.. The same thing Jews say that they are “Chosen One.”

 

[brazensword]

Bombs have not only fallen close to Karbala and Najaf multiple times since the American attack on Iraq in 2003 , even important mosques have been blown up by Alqaeda in Iraq and ISIS several times in the 2000s and 2010s. Why do you think all these militias for self defense exist in Iraq ??

Shhhh. Don't tell him what Saddam did.

 

[Mujahid]

That "if" is way back on the past and the process of entropy hasn't come to a full stop yet.

The fact is that the core Shi'i realm has remained largely intact while Sunnis are still running with a sieve to deem those with difference of opinion on secular leadership as apostates. That is crux of the matter with the Saudi rule... that swings on the pendulum that is essentially agnostic... swinging to where needed with a nudge.
The process to collect and reunite is further down the road.

So if unity means this:



Then Allah save us from such unity.. Because unity should look like this:



Which has discipline, hardwork, peace, and self reliance not being leech like Iran sucking Muslim brother blood for its own interest..

 

[Master Chief]

Technically, Iran does have a divine right on SoH, as its literally their territorial waters. Now if that happens to be on of the most vital waterways as far as commerce is concerned - that's neither here nor there.

If you are referring to maritime law/convention, so does Oman on the SoH. Similarly, Yemen, Djibouti and Eritrea all have this right over Bab el Mandeb. Iran cannot dictate terms to Oman regarding what happens in its territory. Yemen cannot, likewise, dictate terms to Djibouti and Eritrea.

Besides all of that, the relevant laws and conventions only speak of extracting a reasonable price for the purpose of national security. Those laws and conventions do not extend as far as actually bringing bodily harm and death/destruction to sailors and vessels.