Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Michael]

You cannot compare Azerbaijan and Turkey's relationship to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia's. Not at all. Making that comparison is the biggest mistake you can make when looking at Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The very foundation of this relationship is forged in unyielding religiosity, far exceeding any conventional comparison.

By the way, Azerbaijan and Turkey's relationship will be fine. This is a storm in a cup of tea.

When two people are deeply in love, they will never pay heed to any warnings about the possibility of a breakup!

 

[K2RULEZ]

When two people are deeply in love, they will never pay heed to any warnings about the possibility of a breakup!

We are not bound by worldly temptations.

 

[wangdefa]

You cannot compare Azerbaijan and Turkey's relationship to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia's. Not at all. Making that comparison is the biggest mistake you can make when looking at Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The very foundation of this relationship is forged in unyielding religiosity, far exceeding any conventional comparison.

By the way, Azerbaijan and Turkey's relationship will be fine. This is a storm in a cup of tea.

In reality, the collective will of a nation will only compromise with reality and will not entertain impractical ideas. Individual will can only represent the individual.

 

[r3alist]

This is a very dangerous point of view!

In international relations, interactions between states are, at their core, immediate exchanges of interests. Neither side owes the other anything! Once you start harboring the belief that the other party "owes" you, the relationship is bound to collapse rapidly. This is not merely my personal opinion; it is a lesson drawn from history.

The Soviets believed that it was precisely their selfless and substantial aid that enabled the PRC to win the war and begin its development—which then led to a series of "unreasonable" demands that crossed certain boundaries... and we all know what happened afterward.

The Turks believe that it was their robust support and assistance that allowed Azerbaijan to win the Nagorno-Karabakh War—and now... the relationship between the two sides is beginning to undergo some subtle shifts...

If too many Pakistanis come to hold the same view as you do, then the relationship between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia could well be the next one to follow this path...

I understand your pov, it's correct very technically but sometimes when the relationship has real depth that creates a deeper buy in and need for give and take, to maintain the relationship


Everything is circumstantial, Saudi in any case provides relief during conflict, at minimum given the alliance and recent help it should ensure atleast that or a bit more,which is valuable.

That's a reasonable expectation given prior experience and changing scenario


You have to consider impact of not helping as well

India to this day believes it owes Russia loyalty due to Bangladesh war,so whilst it's not fully supported Russia it has not harmed russian interests actively despite pressure.

 

[hyperman]

 

[Yasser76]

Saudis doing us a solid and keeping to their end of the pact...

 

[GoatsMilk]

Never forget....

most muslim states as you know them today including their installed dynasties were british projects. Even Irans mullah regime was a western project conducted by the US, UK and France.

The syria you knew and her assad dynasty was another british/french project.

you think whites ever stop trying to undermine and harm non-whites?

 

[Yasser76]

Makes sense

Combined now the Makkah pact can allies can field

1,300 fighter jets
22 AEW Aircraft
33 refuelling aircraft
7,000 MBTs
1,200 SPH



Obviously age of equipment and capabilities vary but the above is one hell of a force

France, UK, Germany combined are

450 fighter jets
7 AEW aircraft
24 refuelling aircraft
600 MBTs
200 SPH

Makes you think how powerful Makkah allies can be if fully integrated

 

[mythbuster]

Hard to

Makes sense

Combined now the Makkah pact can allies can field

1,300 fighter jets
22 AEW Aircraft
33 refuelling aircraft
7,000 MBTs
1,200 SPH



Obviously age of equipment and capabilities vary but the above is one hell of a force

France, UK, Germany combined are

450 fighter jets
7 AEW aircraft
24 refuelling aircraft
600 MBTs
200 SPH

Makes you think how powerful Makkah allies can be if fully integrated

Hard to believe France, UK and Germany thingy .

 

[Yasser76]

Hard to

Hard to believe France, UK and Germany thingy .

Yeah, just going by wiki but those numbers are approx right, also remember big quality differences, Turks have a lot of old M48 Patton tanks, Pakistan still flies F-7. UK is gold plated equipment , Typhoon/F-35 fighters, Challenger 2/3 tanks, but numbers are tiny (150 odd fighters and 180 MBTs)